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  • warmaniacW Offline
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    warmaniac
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    I'm not having problem with my hardware with other sensors which sleeps every 2 minutes. Same hardware lasts on 1 % battery for 2 weeks , it is good result for me . I only want to know if is better sketch for battery powered door sensor which is based on interrupts wake up from sleep. It will be much better for battery.

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      I remember one saying that was able to run for over a year, a mini pro with reed switch on a single cr123

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      • warmaniacW warmaniac

        Hi there,

        I want to ask if somebody had already done a sketch for 2AA 1,5V battery powered arduino with nrf24l01 wireless radio based on interrupt pin detection ? I have done couple of hours searching and trying but I'm not very successful with it. The default sketch on this web https://www.mysensors.org/build/binary drains my batteries powered by power booster after 24 hours to 0,8 volts :cat:

        In advance, I really appreciate your support in this matter

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        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
        #5

        @warmaniac - it should not be a problem running this for atleast a year (this is how I have build my PCB - EasyPCB).
        Do you use the sleep() function and did you remove the led and voltage converter on the arduino?
        Here is some more info: https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery

        If you check https://www.mysensors.org/build/motion you can see a binary sketch which use sleep()

        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          @warmaniac - it should not be a problem running this for atleast a year (this is how I have build my PCB - EasyPCB).
          Do you use the sleep() function and did you remove the led and voltage converter on the arduino?
          Here is some more info: https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery

          If you check https://www.mysensors.org/build/motion you can see a binary sketch which use sleep()

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          warmaniac
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          #6

          @sundberg84

          BOTH led was removed , as I said , this HW specs Im using on multiple sensors with sleep function and i dont have any problems with battery. Thanks for recommendation of using modified sketch from motion sensor. Im not expecting to remove voltage regulator because im powering my arduino with stepup booster which can be higher than 3.3 volts .

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          • warmaniacW warmaniac

            @sundberg84

            BOTH led was removed , as I said , this HW specs Im using on multiple sensors with sleep function and i dont have any problems with battery. Thanks for recommendation of using modified sketch from motion sensor. Im not expecting to remove voltage regulator because im powering my arduino with stepup booster which can be higher than 3.3 volts .

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            sundberg84
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            #7

            @warmaniac - this is not optimal since the voltage regulater has a current drain and will use your batterypower to fast. Im using a DC-DC stepup booster which provide 3.3v and then you dont need a voltage regulator.

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • sundberg84S sundberg84

              @warmaniac - this is not optimal since the voltage regulater has a current drain and will use your batterypower to fast. Im using a DC-DC stepup booster which provide 3.3v and then you dont need a voltage regulator.

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              warmaniac
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @sundberg84

              Yep I understand , but I ordered 10 pcs of step up boosters, all gives output voltage 3,7 -3,8V . without regulator is problem ,I think.

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              • warmaniacW warmaniac

                @sundberg84

                Yep I understand , but I ordered 10 pcs of step up boosters, all gives output voltage 3,7 -3,8V . without regulator is problem ,I think.

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                sundberg84
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                #9

                @warmaniac - So maybe you can add a diode or something in series to drop the voltage until you get new stepups, because you will be disappointing with batterylife if you use this setup.

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                  #10

                  @sundberg84

                  I had barometer BMP180 powered on 2xAA 1,5V , in usage from 1.March 2017 , Start battery power was 85% (not new batteries, before used) and now after 14 days of usage is 84 % , Im very satisfied. Using only without LEDs ,with power regulator on arduino.

                  1_1489491784079_baro_2.png 0_1489491784079_baro_1.png

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                  • warmaniacW warmaniac

                    I'm not having problem with my hardware with other sensors which sleeps every 2 minutes. Same hardware lasts on 1 % battery for 2 weeks , it is good result for me . I only want to know if is better sketch for battery powered door sensor which is based on interrupts wake up from sleep. It will be much better for battery.

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                    LastSamurai
                    Hardware Contributor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @warmaniac said in Low power battery Door/Window sketch nrf24l01:

                    I'm not having problem with my hardware with other sensors which sleeps every 2 minutes. Same hardware lasts on 1 % battery for 2 weeks , it is good result for me . I only want to know if is better sketch for battery powered door sensor which is based on interrupts wake up from sleep. It will be much better for battery.

                    Then why don't you just use the sketch I linked to? Or simply add the parts you need (mainly sleep()) to your sketch?

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                    • L LastSamurai

                      @warmaniac said in Low power battery Door/Window sketch nrf24l01:

                      I'm not having problem with my hardware with other sensors which sleeps every 2 minutes. Same hardware lasts on 1 % battery for 2 weeks , it is good result for me . I only want to know if is better sketch for battery powered door sensor which is based on interrupts wake up from sleep. It will be much better for battery.

                      Then why don't you just use the sketch I linked to? Or simply add the parts you need (mainly sleep()) to your sketch?

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                      @LastSamurai

                      I tryied , many times and changes in sketch but im failed, not waking up on interrupts , im not programmer maybe if I know better C langauge. :( Im using DIGITAL PIN 3 for magnetic sensor input.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        I don't know if this is correct sketch but now working on interrupts , take a look please

                        /**
                         * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                         * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                         * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                         * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                         * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                         *
                         * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
                         * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                         * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                         *
                         * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                         * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                         *
                         * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                         * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                         * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                         *
                         *******************************
                         *
                         * DESCRIPTION
                         *
                         * Simple binary switch example 
                         * Connect button or door/window reed switch between 
                         * digitial I/O pin 3 (BUTTON_PIN below) and GND.
                         * http://www.mysensors.org/build/binary
                         */
                        
                        
                        // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                        #define MY_DEBUG 
                        
                        // Enable and select radio type attached
                        #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                        //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                        
                        #include <SPI.h>
                        #include <MySensors.h>
                        #include <Bounce2.h>
                        
                        #define CHILD_ID 3
                        #define BUTTON_PIN  3  // Arduino Digital I/O pin for button/reed switch
                        
                        Bounce debouncer = Bounce(); 
                        int oldValue=-1;
                        
                        // Change to V_LIGHT if you use S_LIGHT in presentation below
                        MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID,V_TRIPPED);
                        
                        void setup()  
                        {  
                          // Setup the button
                          pinMode(BUTTON_PIN,INPUT);
                          // Activate internal pull-up
                          digitalWrite(BUTTON_PIN,HIGH);
                        
                          // After setting up the button, setup debouncer
                          debouncer.attach(BUTTON_PIN);
                          debouncer.interval(5);
                        
                        }
                        
                        void presentation() {
                          // Register binary input sensor to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                          // You can use S_DOOR, S_MOTION or S_LIGHT here depending on your usage. 
                          // If S_LIGHT is used, remember to update variable type you send in. See "msg" above.
                          present(CHILD_ID, S_DOOR);  
                        }
                        
                        
                        //  Check if digital input has changed and send in new value
                        void loop() 
                        {
                          debouncer.update();
                          // Get the update value
                          int value = debouncer.read();
                        
                          if (value != oldValue) {
                             // Send in the new value
                             send(msg.set(value==HIGH ? 1 : 0));
                             oldValue = value;
                          }
                        sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(BUTTON_PIN)-2, CHANGE, 0);
                        }```
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                          mortommy
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                          #14

                          Hi,
                          I have some Door/window sensors, powered by a cr2032 coin battery and I was able to run them for 1 year. The sketch above it seems ok, but the secret it's not only the software, it depends on hardware too:

                          • remove voltage regulator and led from the arduino
                          • choose a ceramic decoupling capacitor for your radio module, and avoid electrolytic capacitors (they have a bigger leakage current)
                          • I don't use any step-up converter, and use the battery to power both the radio module and arduino (reported both to work at 3V)
                          • a capacitor (again ceramic) of 100uF across the cell’s terminals could sustain a peak current load.

                          It's also better to avoid messages sending in a short time, and put some sleep in the middle, but I don't see that situation in the sketch.

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                          • M mortommy

                            Hi,
                            I have some Door/window sensors, powered by a cr2032 coin battery and I was able to run them for 1 year. The sketch above it seems ok, but the secret it's not only the software, it depends on hardware too:

                            • remove voltage regulator and led from the arduino
                            • choose a ceramic decoupling capacitor for your radio module, and avoid electrolytic capacitors (they have a bigger leakage current)
                            • I don't use any step-up converter, and use the battery to power both the radio module and arduino (reported both to work at 3V)
                            • a capacitor (again ceramic) of 100uF across the cell’s terminals could sustain a peak current load.

                            It's also better to avoid messages sending in a short time, and put some sleep in the middle, but I don't see that situation in the sketch.

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                            warmaniac
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            @mortommy

                            Thanks for you reply !
                            Apologize me, if I mistaken , but ceramic capacitors in values 100 uF was only SMD? That can't I solder yet. :(

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                            • warmaniacW warmaniac

                              I don't know if this is correct sketch but now working on interrupts , take a look please

                              /**
                               * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                               * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                               * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                               * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                               * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                               *
                               * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
                               * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                               * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                               *
                               * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                               * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                               *
                               * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                               * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                               * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                               *
                               *******************************
                               *
                               * DESCRIPTION
                               *
                               * Simple binary switch example 
                               * Connect button or door/window reed switch between 
                               * digitial I/O pin 3 (BUTTON_PIN below) and GND.
                               * http://www.mysensors.org/build/binary
                               */
                              
                              
                              // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                              #define MY_DEBUG 
                              
                              // Enable and select radio type attached
                              #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                              //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                              
                              #include <SPI.h>
                              #include <MySensors.h>
                              #include <Bounce2.h>
                              
                              #define CHILD_ID 3
                              #define BUTTON_PIN  3  // Arduino Digital I/O pin for button/reed switch
                              
                              Bounce debouncer = Bounce(); 
                              int oldValue=-1;
                              
                              // Change to V_LIGHT if you use S_LIGHT in presentation below
                              MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID,V_TRIPPED);
                              
                              void setup()  
                              {  
                                // Setup the button
                                pinMode(BUTTON_PIN,INPUT);
                                // Activate internal pull-up
                                digitalWrite(BUTTON_PIN,HIGH);
                              
                                // After setting up the button, setup debouncer
                                debouncer.attach(BUTTON_PIN);
                                debouncer.interval(5);
                              
                              }
                              
                              void presentation() {
                                // Register binary input sensor to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                                // You can use S_DOOR, S_MOTION or S_LIGHT here depending on your usage. 
                                // If S_LIGHT is used, remember to update variable type you send in. See "msg" above.
                                present(CHILD_ID, S_DOOR);  
                              }
                              
                              
                              //  Check if digital input has changed and send in new value
                              void loop() 
                              {
                                debouncer.update();
                                // Get the update value
                                int value = debouncer.read();
                              
                                if (value != oldValue) {
                                   // Send in the new value
                                   send(msg.set(value==HIGH ? 1 : 0));
                                   oldValue = value;
                                }
                              sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(BUTTON_PIN)-2, CHANGE, 0);
                              }```
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                              AWI
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              @warmaniac Using debounce with a sleeping node is rather useless. Sleep() halts the millis() timer which is used by debounce. You can just sleep(100) a few ms before entering the interrupt sleep.

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                              • AWIA AWI

                                @warmaniac Using debounce with a sleeping node is rather useless. Sleep() halts the millis() timer which is used by debounce. You can just sleep(100) a few ms before entering the interrupt sleep.

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                                #17

                                @AWI

                                if I understand correctly you mean like this ?

                                void loop() 
                                {
                                  debouncer.update();
                                  // Get the update value
                                  int value = debouncer.read();
                                
                                  if (value != oldValue) {
                                     // Send in the new value
                                     send(msg.set(value==HIGH ? 1 : 0));
                                     oldValue = value;
                                  }
                                sleep(200);
                                sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(BUTTON_PIN)-2, CHANGE, 0);
                                }
                                
                                

                                Wouldn't be delay(200) doing same function ?

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                                • warmaniacW warmaniac

                                  @AWI

                                  if I understand correctly you mean like this ?

                                  void loop() 
                                  {
                                    debouncer.update();
                                    // Get the update value
                                    int value = debouncer.read();
                                  
                                    if (value != oldValue) {
                                       // Send in the new value
                                       send(msg.set(value==HIGH ? 1 : 0));
                                       oldValue = value;
                                    }
                                  sleep(200);
                                  sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(BUTTON_PIN)-2, CHANGE, 0);
                                  }
                                  
                                  

                                  Wouldn't be delay(200) doing same function ?

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                                  AWI
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                                  #18

                                  @warmaniac delay() does the same thing but does not turn down the power. You can just skip the debouncer stuff.

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                                  • warmaniacW warmaniac

                                    @mortommy

                                    Thanks for you reply !
                                    Apologize me, if I mistaken , but ceramic capacitors in values 100 uF was only SMD? That can't I solder yet. :(

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                                    Hardware Contributor
                                    wrote on last edited by Nca78
                                    #19

                                    @warmaniac said in Low power battery Door/Window sketch nrf24l01:

                                    Apologize me, if I mistaken , but ceramic capacitors in values 100 uF was only SMD? That can't I solder yet. :(

                                    Honestly it's really not a problem to solder those, not long ago (just over a couple of months :) ) I was afraid of SMD soldering and now after only a bit of training it's very easy if you stick to "big" sized SMD components or radios with castellated pins.
                                    But even smaller size gets easy when you learn the right method, I soldered my first SMD atmega328 a few weeks ago and it is running fine :)

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                                      #20

                                      I want also to specify that my sensor was running under library 1.5.4. At the moment I'm experiencing an issue under the library 2.1.1 that makes the sensor continuously wake up, so the battery discharges itself after few hours. Better under library 2.0.0 but the initialization process has many transmissions failure that give to the battery a heavy blow.

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                                      • M mortommy

                                        I want also to specify that my sensor was running under library 1.5.4. At the moment I'm experiencing an issue under the library 2.1.1 that makes the sensor continuously wake up, so the battery discharges itself after few hours. Better under library 2.0.0 but the initialization process has many transmissions failure that give to the battery a heavy blow.

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                                        wrote on last edited by warmaniac
                                        #21

                                        @mortommy

                                        YES !!! That's it !!! But it is fatal error , because i use step up booster and when battery goes down , It caused that arduino start / shutdown quickly , it spams my Gateway I must disconnect it .

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