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  • TigroenotT Offline
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    • gohanG Offline
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      If you bring the node closer to the gateway? Maybe it is not able to reach it without the repeater

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        @Tigroenot it looks like you have alot of :NACK which means you have a range problem (or power) and the node with ID 2 does not get a reply (ack) from the GW. Still my last question - even if you clear the routing table/eeprom in the node it might that it takes a while for th gw to update its routing table? Im not sure how this works "behind the scenes" since im not of a coding guy,

        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          The range is not the issue because I tried to move it closer to the gateway, but untill I power on the repeater node it didn't work.

          I sent C_INTERNAL, I_DEBUG, E to node 10, is has reset it's ID and became no 11, and after that nodes 2 and 12 starter to work through node 11. Damn it. I reset the ID of node 2, it became node 8 and continued to work through node 11. Sh*t!
          Now I've got two nodes that just want that bloody repeater node 11 and don't want to deal with the filthy gateway :)

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            Did you restarted the gateway so that all nodes presented again? It is actually kind of weird since quite some people had issues about the nodes trying to connect to low signal gateway even if repeater had better signal.

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            • gohanG gohan

              Did you restarted the gateway so that all nodes presented again? It is actually kind of weird since quite some people had issues about the nodes trying to connect to low signal gateway even if repeater had better signal.

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              @gohan said in Node doesn't work without repeater:

              Did you restarted the gateway so that all nodes presented again? It is actually kind of weird since quite some people had issues about the nodes trying to connect to low signal gateway even if repeater had better signal.

              Not only have I restarted the gateway, I have reinstalled it, now it's latest development branch.
              Now I have built one more node, burned the same 1.3 MYSBootloader, and it doesn't show up on the network at all. Static parent ID and set node ID don't do a thing.

              314689 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
              316700 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
              316702 TSM:FPAR
              

              The gateway works normally, it gets the data from similar nodes that are further that this new one... I'm very confused...

              Maybe it's somethig to do with the nrf chanels? MYSBootloader? All my nodes are the same...

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                NRF channels can be manually defined if you want to try (default channel is something like 76, I set it to 10 to move it away from wifi frequencies), but if you change the values in the MyConfig.h file you will get the same settings an all builds (just remember it will get overwritten if you up\downgrade the library. I am taking for granted you have capacitors on the radio vcc, right? Did you try to swap radios around, just to see if anything happens?

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                  Well, what I did is swaped the radio on the gateway, added capacitors (10-200uf), swaped the nrf chip on the nodes (nrf+ and nrf), added 1M resistor to the node for radio back compatibility, moved nodes closer to the gateway and further from it, flashed the repeater node (now it's node 10 again) with repeater function disabled.

                  In the end, I've got three new nodes that talk to controller ONLY through repeater node (the repeater node is further from the gateway then the new nodes). Clearing the routing table on the repeater node doesn't help, erasing eeprom of the repeater node makes it change the node ID and after restarting the other nodes they bind to the repeater again.
                  Strange thing is that the node 10 is with MYSBootloader (which has nrf chanel 76 set) and it talks straight to the gateway. The nodes (8,12,13) have the same bootloader and nrf chanel set to 76 and are not recognised by the gateway as soon as there is no repeater node 10.

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                    I am out of options.... I am calling for @hek help :D

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                      #17

                      Try setting

                      #define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_LOW

                      on the gateway

                      The gateway might be SCREAMING so high that the node doesn't pick up the answer.

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