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RFM69 range issues

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    DavidZH
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    I find it very strange you experience these kind of problems. I have been using the RFM69 (both W and HW) since I started with MySensors a year ago.
    The only time I had trouble with the range (or any transmission at all..) was when I used double sided perf-board to build my circuits on. Somehow the extra exposed copper reflects the RF energy in an unpredictable way so the radio will not send at all.

    Can you post a picture of your setup? Maybe we spot a tiny little thing that eff's up your testing.

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      mihai.aldea
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      #36

      I believe this one is on me. It wasn't clear to me that MySensors is actually wrapper of the original LowPowerLab's RFM69 lib and you can't mix #define's from MySensors and the embedded RFM69 driver.
      MySensors is really plug&play if you're using the NRF24L01+ modules, follow the guides, upload the sketches and fire up the gateway, but if you want to use RFM69, I at least, needed some serious trial and error.
      Maybe it's just my hectic style of trying new setups, or maybe because I found no concise guide on how to switch from RF24 to RFM69 or maybe something in between :yum:

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        I believe this one is on me. It wasn't clear to me that MySensors is actually wrapper of the original LowPowerLab's RFM69 lib and you can't mix #define's from MySensors and the embedded RFM69 driver.
        MySensors is really plug&play if you're using the NRF24L01+ modules, follow the guides, upload the sketches and fire up the gateway, but if you want to use RFM69, I at least, needed some serious trial and error.
        Maybe it's just my hectic style of trying new setups, or maybe because I found no concise guide on how to switch from RF24 to RFM69 or maybe something in between :yum:

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        mfalkvidd
        Mod
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        @mihai.aldea great that you got it working. I believe many people would find such a guide useful. Would it be possible for you to summarize your experience? That summary could then be the base for a guide that we can add to the MySensors documentation.

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          @mihai.aldea great that you got it working. I believe many people would find such a guide useful. Would it be possible for you to summarize your experience? That summary could then be the base for a guide that we can add to the MySensors documentation.

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          mihai.aldea
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          @mfalkvidd I will definitely do that. I'll tinker with them for a while just to be confortable with stating the facts and I will compile such a guide. It'll take me no more than a couple of days.

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            @mfalkvidd I will definitely do that. I'll tinker with them for a while just to be confortable with stating the facts and I will compile such a guide. It'll take me no more than a couple of days.

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            mfalkvidd
            Mod
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            @mihai.aldea great!

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              maman
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              I configure the ESP8266 MQTT gateway using RFM69HW.

              I define as follows

              #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
              #define MY_RFM69_FREQUENCY RF69_433MHZ
              #define MY_IS_RFM69HW
              #define MY_RFM69_NETWORKID 100
              #define RF69_IRQ_PIN 4
              #define RF69_SPI_CS 15
              #define MY_RF69_IRQ_PIN RF69_IRQ_PIN
              #define MY_RF69_SPI_CS RF69_SPI_CS

              For node side, I use Promini ATMEGA328
              #define MY_NODE_ID 7
              #define MY_PARENT_NODE_ID 0
              #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
              #define MY_RFM69_FREQUENCY RF69_433MHZ
              #define MY_IS_RFM69HW
              #define MY_RFM69_NETWORKID 100
              #define RF69_IRQ_PIN 2
              #define RF69_SPI_CS 10
              #define MY_RF69_IRQ_PIN RF69_IRQ_PIN
              #define MY_RF69_SPI_CS RF69_SPI_CS

              But, the node (Promini) can not communicate with the gateway

              1487370 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
              1487372 TSM:FPAR
              1487503 TSF:MSG:SEND,7-7-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
              1489510 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
              1489512 TSM:FPAR
              1489643 TSF:MSG:SEND,7-7-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
              1491650 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
              1491652 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
              1491654 TSM:FAIL:PDT

              Is there any hint to do ?

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                I configure the ESP8266 MQTT gateway using RFM69HW.

                I define as follows

                #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                #define MY_RFM69_FREQUENCY RF69_433MHZ
                #define MY_IS_RFM69HW
                #define MY_RFM69_NETWORKID 100
                #define RF69_IRQ_PIN 4
                #define RF69_SPI_CS 15
                #define MY_RF69_IRQ_PIN RF69_IRQ_PIN
                #define MY_RF69_SPI_CS RF69_SPI_CS

                For node side, I use Promini ATMEGA328
                #define MY_NODE_ID 7
                #define MY_PARENT_NODE_ID 0
                #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                #define MY_RFM69_FREQUENCY RF69_433MHZ
                #define MY_IS_RFM69HW
                #define MY_RFM69_NETWORKID 100
                #define RF69_IRQ_PIN 2
                #define RF69_SPI_CS 10
                #define MY_RF69_IRQ_PIN RF69_IRQ_PIN
                #define MY_RF69_SPI_CS RF69_SPI_CS

                But, the node (Promini) can not communicate with the gateway

                1487370 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
                1487372 TSM:FPAR
                1487503 TSF:MSG:SEND,7-7-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                1489510 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
                1489512 TSM:FPAR
                1489643 TSF:MSG:SEND,7-7-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                1491650 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
                1491652 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
                1491654 TSM:FAIL:PDT

                Is there any hint to do ?

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                Yeitso
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                #41

                @maman Try to downgrade to 2.0.0 if you are using any newer lib.
                The newer libs over 2.0.0 does not work for my esp8266 mqtt gateway either.

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                • YeitsoY Yeitso

                  @maman Try to downgrade to 2.0.0 if you are using any newer lib.
                  The newer libs over 2.0.0 does not work for my esp8266 mqtt gateway either.

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                  maman
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #42

                  @Yeitso Thanks, I will try to downgrade the mysensors library.

                  Can you share the #define script that working on ATMEGA328 and ESP8266 board ?

                  Thanks for your help.

                  Regards,
                  Maman

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                  • E executivul

                    @mihai-aldea I've bought the same modules from the same supplier.
                    Initially I had the same problems you mention.
                    My advice: start with the simple lowpowerlab library and their sender/receiver sketches. Use some form of ground plane directly under the module, I've ended up with small pieces of metal sheet under the modules, otherwise I had no reception. Or use a diploe as pictured earlier.
                    By the way try touching the antenna at different points maybe you will get reception. The antenna length must be tuned to the circuit, I ended up with 96mm for one particular 868Mhz module, either the tuning circuit is flawed or my circuit messes up the antenna tuning.
                    You can also check the interrupt gets triggered or simply use polling by calling the interrupt handler function inside the receiveDone() function to be sure you don't miss received packages (I work with Mega2560 which are not configured correctly in the library for pin2/int4).
                    And please use some level shifters :)

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                    manutremo
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                    #43

                    Hi @executivul ,

                    You mentioned in your post that the length of the antenna must be tuned to the circuit - would you mind sharing the process to do the tuning?

                    Thanks!

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                      Hi @executivul ,

                      You mentioned in your post that the length of the antenna must be tuned to the circuit - would you mind sharing the process to do the tuning?

                      Thanks!

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                      Chester
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                      @manutremo said in RFM69 range issues:

                      Hi @executivul ,
                      You mentioned in your post that the length of the antenna must be tuned to the circuit - would you mind sharing the process to do the tuning?

                      https://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio

                      Down near the bottom of the page is the lengths of antenna needed for the three primary frequencies used by the RFM board.

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                        @manutremo said in RFM69 range issues:

                        Hi @executivul ,
                        You mentioned in your post that the length of the antenna must be tuned to the circuit - would you mind sharing the process to do the tuning?

                        https://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio

                        Down near the bottom of the page is the lengths of antenna needed for the three primary frequencies used by the RFM board.

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                        manutremo
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                        @Chester

                        I've seen that page, thanks. If you read the post I'm referring to, @executivul used some specific procedure to tune the antenna further than just using the theoretical length.

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