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Video How To: Battery Powered Chair Occupancy (Contact) Sensor

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  • JicJ Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Jic
    #9

    That doesn't work to me! :( I am using an arduino clone. I don't Know if that is the problem.

    When I use your sketch (an others from Mysensors) my Arduino usage is 30mA, seems like the sleep method doesn't work rigth.

    I test with a liltle example from rocketscream/Low-Power and then my Arduino usage is 16uA. Anyone know where the problem may be?

    Thanks

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    • JicJ Jic

      That doesn't work to me! :( I am using an arduino clone. I don't Know if that is the problem.

      When I use your sketch (an others from Mysensors) my Arduino usage is 30mA, seems like the sleep method doesn't work rigth.

      I test with a liltle example from rocketscream/Low-Power and then my Arduino usage is 16uA. Anyone know where the problem may be?

      Thanks

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      sundberg84
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      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      @Jic did you remove the led and voltage regulator?

      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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      • sundberg84S sundberg84

        @Jic did you remove the led and voltage regulator?

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        #11

        @sundberg84

        Yes, I have removed both

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        • JicJ Jic

          That doesn't work to me! :( I am using an arduino clone. I don't Know if that is the problem.

          When I use your sketch (an others from Mysensors) my Arduino usage is 30mA, seems like the sleep method doesn't work rigth.

          I test with a liltle example from rocketscream/Low-Power and then my Arduino usage is 16uA. Anyone know where the problem may be?

          Thanks

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          wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
          #12

          @Jic 30mA is way too high even for an unmodified Arduino that is fully awake. There must be something wrong with the Arduino or the measurement.

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          • JicJ Jic

            @sundberg84

            Yes, I have removed both

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            #13

            @Jic - you should see in the serial debug if the node is sleeping or not. I have heard there might be a problem with sleep in som recent version. Maybe you investigate this and if nessecaru upgrade to development branch.

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • JicJ Jic

              That doesn't work to me! :( I am using an arduino clone. I don't Know if that is the problem.

              When I use your sketch (an others from Mysensors) my Arduino usage is 30mA, seems like the sleep method doesn't work rigth.

              I test with a liltle example from rocketscream/Low-Power and then my Arduino usage is 16uA. Anyone know where the problem may be?

              Thanks

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              #14

              @Jic In addition to the great suggestions above also try to disconnect all the sensors and measure again. I had two bad radios that were using way too much power. Bad clones I guess.

              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                #15

                Thanks for sharing this awesome project...

                I want to install all my windows with reed sensors powered by 2AA alcaline batteries and would like they last more than 5 years... and I think your project fits perfectly
                How long do those used batteries last?

                Did you implement what @Nca78 suggested?

                I have already cut LED and Power Regulator from Arduino Pro Mini 3.3v and will change bootloader.
                Have you choosen the best (lowest power consumption) bootloader to use?

                I would try the MYSBootloader_1MHz.hex from MySensors GitHub.
                Would the optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_NOLED from GertSanders better for low power?

                Thanks for the help...

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                • OliverDogO OliverDog

                  Thanks for sharing this awesome project...

                  I want to install all my windows with reed sensors powered by 2AA alcaline batteries and would like they last more than 5 years... and I think your project fits perfectly
                  How long do those used batteries last?

                  Did you implement what @Nca78 suggested?

                  I have already cut LED and Power Regulator from Arduino Pro Mini 3.3v and will change bootloader.
                  Have you choosen the best (lowest power consumption) bootloader to use?

                  I would try the MYSBootloader_1MHz.hex from MySensors GitHub.
                  Would the optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_NOLED from GertSanders better for low power?

                  Thanks for the help...

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                  wrote on last edited by Nca78
                  #16

                  @OliverDog if you are using 2xAA then 6uA in sleep mode is fine for a few decades.
                  You can estimate battery life there, if you don't spend your time jumping on your chair it should last the 5 years easily ;)
                  http://oregonembedded.com/batterycalc.htm

                  For the bootloaders battery life won't be different, any bootloader using internal oscillator at 1MHz is fine.

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                    #17

                    Great!!! Got it working, but can't measure the consumption...
                    My multimeter shows always 000.
                    The sensors is working fine and reporting properly while connected to multimeter, but always 0 current...
                    Tried 200u, 2000u, 20m and 200m, always reporting zero... Is is that low?

                    Did I connect something wrong??? (multimeter in series with positive battery pole and circuit line in (Radio+APM+1M ResistorPin3)
                    Or is my aliexpress multimeter that bad???

                    0_1502410544175_20170810_210709.jpg

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                    • OliverDogO OliverDog

                      Great!!! Got it working, but can't measure the consumption...
                      My multimeter shows always 000.
                      The sensors is working fine and reporting properly while connected to multimeter, but always 0 current...
                      Tried 200u, 2000u, 20m and 200m, always reporting zero... Is is that low?

                      Did I connect something wrong??? (multimeter in series with positive battery pole and circuit line in (Radio+APM+1M ResistorPin3)
                      Or is my aliexpress multimeter that bad???

                      0_1502410544175_20170810_210709.jpg

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                      wrote on last edited by Nca78
                      #18

                      Clean desk you have here @OliverDog this would make my wife dream :D

                      For the multimeter, no idea. At 200u it should see something, maybe your red wire is in the wrong plug of the multimeter ? Usually it's a different plug for voltage and for current but you can have a different plug for high current (A) and low current (mA) too...

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                      • OliverDogO Offline
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                        #19

                        I had just cleaned it!!! My wife gave up caring about this desk...:smirk:

                        I found my multimeter fuse was burned... so I wired its base poles and now I can measure:

                        Sleeping + Reed Disconnected - most time 6 uA
                        Sleeping + Reed Connected - most time 9 uA
                        When sending new status to gateway - 25 - 230 uA (around 140 uA most times)
                        Sending time was less than 1 second.

                        2 AA will give me 29 years (battery certainly will die first)
                        2 AAA - 12 years.
                        1 CR2032 - 2,5 years.

                        Thanks for the help...

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                          @OliverDog when sending to gateway you cannot trust your multimeter. It's probably around 15mA but only during a fraction of a second, and what you read is some kind of average between that and the very low power consumption in sleep mode.

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