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Video How To: Battery Powered Chair Occupancy (Contact) Sensor

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  • sundberg84S sundberg84

    @Jic did you remove the led and voltage regulator?

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    @sundberg84

    Yes, I have removed both

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    • JicJ Jic

      That doesn't work to me! :( I am using an arduino clone. I don't Know if that is the problem.

      When I use your sketch (an others from Mysensors) my Arduino usage is 30mA, seems like the sleep method doesn't work rigth.

      I test with a liltle example from rocketscream/Low-Power and then my Arduino usage is 16uA. Anyone know where the problem may be?

      Thanks

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      @Jic 30mA is way too high even for an unmodified Arduino that is fully awake. There must be something wrong with the Arduino or the measurement.

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      • JicJ Jic

        @sundberg84

        Yes, I have removed both

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        @Jic - you should see in the serial debug if the node is sleeping or not. I have heard there might be a problem with sleep in som recent version. Maybe you investigate this and if nessecaru upgrade to development branch.

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        • JicJ Jic

          That doesn't work to me! :( I am using an arduino clone. I don't Know if that is the problem.

          When I use your sketch (an others from Mysensors) my Arduino usage is 30mA, seems like the sleep method doesn't work rigth.

          I test with a liltle example from rocketscream/Low-Power and then my Arduino usage is 16uA. Anyone know where the problem may be?

          Thanks

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          @Jic In addition to the great suggestions above also try to disconnect all the sensors and measure again. I had two bad radios that were using way too much power. Bad clones I guess.

          My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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            Thanks for sharing this awesome project...

            I want to install all my windows with reed sensors powered by 2AA alcaline batteries and would like they last more than 5 years... and I think your project fits perfectly
            How long do those used batteries last?

            Did you implement what @Nca78 suggested?

            I have already cut LED and Power Regulator from Arduino Pro Mini 3.3v and will change bootloader.
            Have you choosen the best (lowest power consumption) bootloader to use?

            I would try the MYSBootloader_1MHz.hex from MySensors GitHub.
            Would the optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_NOLED from GertSanders better for low power?

            Thanks for the help...

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            • OliverDogO OliverDog

              Thanks for sharing this awesome project...

              I want to install all my windows with reed sensors powered by 2AA alcaline batteries and would like they last more than 5 years... and I think your project fits perfectly
              How long do those used batteries last?

              Did you implement what @Nca78 suggested?

              I have already cut LED and Power Regulator from Arduino Pro Mini 3.3v and will change bootloader.
              Have you choosen the best (lowest power consumption) bootloader to use?

              I would try the MYSBootloader_1MHz.hex from MySensors GitHub.
              Would the optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_NOLED from GertSanders better for low power?

              Thanks for the help...

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              wrote on last edited by Nca78
              #16

              @OliverDog if you are using 2xAA then 6uA in sleep mode is fine for a few decades.
              You can estimate battery life there, if you don't spend your time jumping on your chair it should last the 5 years easily ;)
              http://oregonembedded.com/batterycalc.htm

              For the bootloaders battery life won't be different, any bootloader using internal oscillator at 1MHz is fine.

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                Great!!! Got it working, but can't measure the consumption...
                My multimeter shows always 000.
                The sensors is working fine and reporting properly while connected to multimeter, but always 0 current...
                Tried 200u, 2000u, 20m and 200m, always reporting zero... Is is that low?

                Did I connect something wrong??? (multimeter in series with positive battery pole and circuit line in (Radio+APM+1M ResistorPin3)
                Or is my aliexpress multimeter that bad???

                0_1502410544175_20170810_210709.jpg

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                • OliverDogO OliverDog

                  Great!!! Got it working, but can't measure the consumption...
                  My multimeter shows always 000.
                  The sensors is working fine and reporting properly while connected to multimeter, but always 0 current...
                  Tried 200u, 2000u, 20m and 200m, always reporting zero... Is is that low?

                  Did I connect something wrong??? (multimeter in series with positive battery pole and circuit line in (Radio+APM+1M ResistorPin3)
                  Or is my aliexpress multimeter that bad???

                  0_1502410544175_20170810_210709.jpg

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                  wrote on last edited by Nca78
                  #18

                  Clean desk you have here @OliverDog this would make my wife dream :D

                  For the multimeter, no idea. At 200u it should see something, maybe your red wire is in the wrong plug of the multimeter ? Usually it's a different plug for voltage and for current but you can have a different plug for high current (A) and low current (mA) too...

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                    I had just cleaned it!!! My wife gave up caring about this desk...:smirk:

                    I found my multimeter fuse was burned... so I wired its base poles and now I can measure:

                    Sleeping + Reed Disconnected - most time 6 uA
                    Sleeping + Reed Connected - most time 9 uA
                    When sending new status to gateway - 25 - 230 uA (around 140 uA most times)
                    Sending time was less than 1 second.

                    2 AA will give me 29 years (battery certainly will die first)
                    2 AAA - 12 years.
                    1 CR2032 - 2,5 years.

                    Thanks for the help...

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                      @OliverDog when sending to gateway you cannot trust your multimeter. It's probably around 15mA but only during a fraction of a second, and what you read is some kind of average between that and the very low power consumption in sleep mode.

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