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Why do "passive nodes" need to set their Node ID manually?

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  • NeverDieN NeverDie

    Hmmm...., I get this compile time error if I remove the static ID:

     #error MY_PASSIVE_NODE configuration requires setting MY_NODE_ID
    
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    mfalkvidd
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    @NeverDie seems my inexperience with passive nodes is clear. Sorry for misleading you.

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      NeverDie
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      Which MySensor example should I use, then, for a TH sensor? I want it to report temperature, humidity, and battery voltage. And I want Domoticz to be able to graph all three (including negative temperature values). I was surprised that none of the given examples was exactly this. What do you recommend?

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      • NeverDieN NeverDie

        Which MySensor example should I use, then, for a TH sensor? I want it to report temperature, humidity, and battery voltage. And I want Domoticz to be able to graph all three (including negative temperature values). I was surprised that none of the given examples was exactly this. What do you recommend?

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        @NeverDie I have no idea. The passive node is a bit of a hack, since MySensors nodes were initially designed to always have a path to the gateway. Hacks usually have unintended side-effects and it appears you have found one of those side-effects.

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        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

          @NeverDie I have no idea. The passive node is a bit of a hack, since MySensors nodes were initially designed to always have a path to the gateway. Hacks usually have unintended side-effects and it appears you have found one of those side-effects.

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          @mfalkvidd OK, but setting the passive node sketch aside, which of the other "normal" example sketches do you recommend?

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          • NeverDieN NeverDie

            @mfalkvidd OK, but setting the passive node sketch aside, which of the other "normal" example sketches do you recommend?

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            wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
            #13

            @NeverDie I'm not sure what you mean. any example should work. That's what they are for :)

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            • NeverDieN NeverDie

              @mfalkvidd OK, but setting the passive node sketch aside, which of the other "normal" example sketches do you recommend?

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              @NeverDie

              I have started to test node-red (Which dont work yet...) so I have created a dummy sketch for parse the data to domoticz.

              // Enable debug prints
              #define MY_DEBUG
              #define MY_GATEWAY_SERIAL
              
              // Enable passive mode
              #define MY_PASSIVE_NODE
              #define MY_REPEATER_FEATURE
              
              // Passive mode requires static node ID
              #define MY_NODE_ID 0
              
              // Enable and select radio type attached
              // #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
              //#define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_HIGH
              
              //#define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
              //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
              //#define MY_RADIO_RFM95
              
              #include <MySensors.h>
              
              #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
              #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
              #define CHILD_ID_BINARY 2
              
              // Initialize general message
              MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
              MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
              MyMessage msgBinary(CHILD_ID_BINARY, V_STATUS);
              int counter = 0;
              float temperature = 0;
              float humidity = 0;
              int binary = 0;
              void setup()
              {
              }
              
              void presentation()
              {
                // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and controller
                sendSketchInfo("Passive node", "1.0");
              
                // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
                present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
                present(CHILD_ID_BINARY, S_BINARY);
              }
              
              void loop()
              {
                // generate some random data
                counter ++;
                if (counter == 20 ){
                  temperature = 0;
                  humidity = 0;
                  counter = 0;
                }
                else
                {
                  temperature = 25.0 + random(0,30)/10.0;
                  humidity = 55.0 + random(-20,20);
                }
              /*
                if (binary == 0){
                  send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
                  binary = 1;
                }else {
                  send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
                  binary = 0;
              
                }
              */
                send(msgTemp.set(temperature,2));
                send(msgHum.set(humidity,2));
                wait(1000);
              }
              
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              • S smilvert

                @NeverDie

                I have started to test node-red (Which dont work yet...) so I have created a dummy sketch for parse the data to domoticz.

                // Enable debug prints
                #define MY_DEBUG
                #define MY_GATEWAY_SERIAL
                
                // Enable passive mode
                #define MY_PASSIVE_NODE
                #define MY_REPEATER_FEATURE
                
                // Passive mode requires static node ID
                #define MY_NODE_ID 0
                
                // Enable and select radio type attached
                // #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                //#define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_HIGH
                
                //#define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
                //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                //#define MY_RADIO_RFM95
                
                #include <MySensors.h>
                
                #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
                #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
                #define CHILD_ID_BINARY 2
                
                // Initialize general message
                MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
                MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
                MyMessage msgBinary(CHILD_ID_BINARY, V_STATUS);
                int counter = 0;
                float temperature = 0;
                float humidity = 0;
                int binary = 0;
                void setup()
                {
                }
                
                void presentation()
                {
                  // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and controller
                  sendSketchInfo("Passive node", "1.0");
                
                  // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                  present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
                  present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
                  present(CHILD_ID_BINARY, S_BINARY);
                }
                
                void loop()
                {
                  // generate some random data
                  counter ++;
                  if (counter == 20 ){
                    temperature = 0;
                    humidity = 0;
                    counter = 0;
                  }
                  else
                  {
                    temperature = 25.0 + random(0,30)/10.0;
                    humidity = 55.0 + random(-20,20);
                  }
                /*
                  if (binary == 0){
                    send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
                    binary = 1;
                  }else {
                    send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
                    binary = 0;
                
                  }
                */
                  send(msgTemp.set(temperature,2));
                  send(msgHum.set(humidity,2));
                  wait(1000);
                }
                
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                NeverDie
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                #15

                @smilvert I guess it's destiny then: Node Red + MQTT

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  @smilvert I guess it's destiny then: Node Red + MQTT

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                  #16

                  @NeverDie

                  Well I wanted to filter noise values and I also want to use influx/grafana as a complement to domoticz

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                  • S smilvert

                    @NeverDie

                    Well I wanted to filter noise values and I also want to use influx/grafana as a complement to domoticz

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                    @smilvert So, do you have the gateway connected directly to Node Red, which then feeds Domoticz and also feeds influx/grafana? I think I want to do the same, if that's how to do it.

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                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                      @smilvert So, do you have the gateway connected directly to Node Red, which then feeds Domoticz and also feeds influx/grafana? I think I want to do the same, if that's how to do it.

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                      #18

                      @NeverDie
                      that's the idea but it is not 100 % yet but I working on it.

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                      • S smilvert

                        @NeverDie
                        that's the idea but it is not 100 % yet but I working on it.

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                        NeverDie
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                        #19

                        @smilvert I think @Toyman said he has it figured out. Maybe he can tell us how he did it?

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                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                          @smilvert I think @Toyman said he has it figured out. Maybe he can tell us how he did it?

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                          @NeverDie
                          Just cut domoticz out of the picture as node-red/influx/grafana works perfect with any gateway serial/ethernet/mqtt.
                          I prefer the serial gateway in my own experience is the most stable and no reliance on wifi routers and things.
                          Domoticz has nowhere near the same flexibility when graphing etc.

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                          • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                            @NeverDie
                            Just cut domoticz out of the picture as node-red/influx/grafana works perfect with any gateway serial/ethernet/mqtt.
                            I prefer the serial gateway in my own experience is the most stable and no reliance on wifi routers and things.
                            Domoticz has nowhere near the same flexibility when graphing etc.

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                            @rmtucker Ahhhhhh, that's right, it was rmtucker, not toyman, who had done it: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6961/nrf5-bluetooth-action/1078

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                              tekka
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                              @NeverDie @mfalkvidd Passive nodes communicate without message ACKs - ID requests may never make their way to the controller, hence the requirement of a static node ID.

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                              • tekkaT tekka

                                @NeverDie @mfalkvidd Passive nodes communicate without message ACKs - ID requests may never make their way to the controller, hence the requirement of a static node ID.

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                                @tekka In that case couldn't it just keep retrying until it received its ID?

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                                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                  @tekka In that case couldn't it just keep retrying until it received its ID?

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                                  @NeverDie No, that's not the idea of a passive node. However, with

                                  void transportTogglePassiveMode(const bool OnOff)
                                  

                                  you can enable the passive transport mode, see here for additional information (>=2.2.0)

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                                  • S smilvert

                                    @NeverDie

                                    I have started to test node-red (Which dont work yet...) so I have created a dummy sketch for parse the data to domoticz.

                                    // Enable debug prints
                                    #define MY_DEBUG
                                    #define MY_GATEWAY_SERIAL
                                    
                                    // Enable passive mode
                                    #define MY_PASSIVE_NODE
                                    #define MY_REPEATER_FEATURE
                                    
                                    // Passive mode requires static node ID
                                    #define MY_NODE_ID 0
                                    
                                    // Enable and select radio type attached
                                    // #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                                    //#define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_HIGH
                                    
                                    //#define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
                                    //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                                    //#define MY_RADIO_RFM95
                                    
                                    #include <MySensors.h>
                                    
                                    #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
                                    #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
                                    #define CHILD_ID_BINARY 2
                                    
                                    // Initialize general message
                                    MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
                                    MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
                                    MyMessage msgBinary(CHILD_ID_BINARY, V_STATUS);
                                    int counter = 0;
                                    float temperature = 0;
                                    float humidity = 0;
                                    int binary = 0;
                                    void setup()
                                    {
                                    }
                                    
                                    void presentation()
                                    {
                                      // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and controller
                                      sendSketchInfo("Passive node", "1.0");
                                    
                                      // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                                      present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
                                      present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
                                      present(CHILD_ID_BINARY, S_BINARY);
                                    }
                                    
                                    void loop()
                                    {
                                      // generate some random data
                                      counter ++;
                                      if (counter == 20 ){
                                        temperature = 0;
                                        humidity = 0;
                                        counter = 0;
                                      }
                                      else
                                      {
                                        temperature = 25.0 + random(0,30)/10.0;
                                        humidity = 55.0 + random(-20,20);
                                      }
                                    /*
                                      if (binary == 0){
                                        send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
                                        binary = 1;
                                      }else {
                                        send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
                                        binary = 0;
                                    
                                      }
                                    */
                                      send(msgTemp.set(temperature,2));
                                      send(msgHum.set(humidity,2));
                                      wait(1000);
                                    }
                                    
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                                    @smilvert Got it working: https://www.openhardware.io/view/510/Multi-Sensor-TempHumidityPIR-LeakMagnetLightAccel#tabs-source

                                    I cited you in the credits at the beginning of the sketch.

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