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Why do "passive nodes" need to set their Node ID manually?

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  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

    @NeverDie I have no idea. The passive node is a bit of a hack, since MySensors nodes were initially designed to always have a path to the gateway. Hacks usually have unintended side-effects and it appears you have found one of those side-effects.

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    @mfalkvidd OK, but setting the passive node sketch aside, which of the other "normal" example sketches do you recommend?

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      @mfalkvidd OK, but setting the passive node sketch aside, which of the other "normal" example sketches do you recommend?

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      @NeverDie I'm not sure what you mean. any example should work. That's what they are for :)

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        @mfalkvidd OK, but setting the passive node sketch aside, which of the other "normal" example sketches do you recommend?

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        @NeverDie

        I have started to test node-red (Which dont work yet...) so I have created a dummy sketch for parse the data to domoticz.

        // Enable debug prints
        #define MY_DEBUG
        #define MY_GATEWAY_SERIAL
        
        // Enable passive mode
        #define MY_PASSIVE_NODE
        #define MY_REPEATER_FEATURE
        
        // Passive mode requires static node ID
        #define MY_NODE_ID 0
        
        // Enable and select radio type attached
        // #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
        //#define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_HIGH
        
        //#define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
        //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
        //#define MY_RADIO_RFM95
        
        #include <MySensors.h>
        
        #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
        #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
        #define CHILD_ID_BINARY 2
        
        // Initialize general message
        MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
        MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
        MyMessage msgBinary(CHILD_ID_BINARY, V_STATUS);
        int counter = 0;
        float temperature = 0;
        float humidity = 0;
        int binary = 0;
        void setup()
        {
        }
        
        void presentation()
        {
          // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and controller
          sendSketchInfo("Passive node", "1.0");
        
          // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
          present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
          present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
          present(CHILD_ID_BINARY, S_BINARY);
        }
        
        void loop()
        {
          // generate some random data
          counter ++;
          if (counter == 20 ){
            temperature = 0;
            humidity = 0;
            counter = 0;
          }
          else
          {
            temperature = 25.0 + random(0,30)/10.0;
            humidity = 55.0 + random(-20,20);
          }
        /*
          if (binary == 0){
            send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
            binary = 1;
          }else {
            send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
            binary = 0;
        
          }
        */
          send(msgTemp.set(temperature,2));
          send(msgHum.set(humidity,2));
          wait(1000);
        }
        
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          @NeverDie

          I have started to test node-red (Which dont work yet...) so I have created a dummy sketch for parse the data to domoticz.

          // Enable debug prints
          #define MY_DEBUG
          #define MY_GATEWAY_SERIAL
          
          // Enable passive mode
          #define MY_PASSIVE_NODE
          #define MY_REPEATER_FEATURE
          
          // Passive mode requires static node ID
          #define MY_NODE_ID 0
          
          // Enable and select radio type attached
          // #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
          //#define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_HIGH
          
          //#define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
          //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
          //#define MY_RADIO_RFM95
          
          #include <MySensors.h>
          
          #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
          #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
          #define CHILD_ID_BINARY 2
          
          // Initialize general message
          MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
          MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
          MyMessage msgBinary(CHILD_ID_BINARY, V_STATUS);
          int counter = 0;
          float temperature = 0;
          float humidity = 0;
          int binary = 0;
          void setup()
          {
          }
          
          void presentation()
          {
            // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and controller
            sendSketchInfo("Passive node", "1.0");
          
            // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
            present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
            present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
            present(CHILD_ID_BINARY, S_BINARY);
          }
          
          void loop()
          {
            // generate some random data
            counter ++;
            if (counter == 20 ){
              temperature = 0;
              humidity = 0;
              counter = 0;
            }
            else
            {
              temperature = 25.0 + random(0,30)/10.0;
              humidity = 55.0 + random(-20,20);
            }
          /*
            if (binary == 0){
              send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
              binary = 1;
            }else {
              send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
              binary = 0;
          
            }
          */
            send(msgTemp.set(temperature,2));
            send(msgHum.set(humidity,2));
            wait(1000);
          }
          
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          NeverDie
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          @smilvert I guess it's destiny then: Node Red + MQTT

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          • N NeverDie

            @smilvert I guess it's destiny then: Node Red + MQTT

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            smilvert
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            @NeverDie

            Well I wanted to filter noise values and I also want to use influx/grafana as a complement to domoticz

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              @NeverDie

              Well I wanted to filter noise values and I also want to use influx/grafana as a complement to domoticz

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              NeverDie
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              @smilvert So, do you have the gateway connected directly to Node Red, which then feeds Domoticz and also feeds influx/grafana? I think I want to do the same, if that's how to do it.

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              • N NeverDie

                @smilvert So, do you have the gateway connected directly to Node Red, which then feeds Domoticz and also feeds influx/grafana? I think I want to do the same, if that's how to do it.

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                smilvert
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                @NeverDie
                that's the idea but it is not 100 % yet but I working on it.

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                  @NeverDie
                  that's the idea but it is not 100 % yet but I working on it.

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                  NeverDie
                  Hero Member
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  @smilvert I think @Toyman said he has it figured out. Maybe he can tell us how he did it?

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                  • N NeverDie

                    @smilvert I think @Toyman said he has it figured out. Maybe he can tell us how he did it?

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                    rmtucker
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                    @NeverDie
                    Just cut domoticz out of the picture as node-red/influx/grafana works perfect with any gateway serial/ethernet/mqtt.
                    I prefer the serial gateway in my own experience is the most stable and no reliance on wifi routers and things.
                    Domoticz has nowhere near the same flexibility when graphing etc.

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                      @NeverDie
                      Just cut domoticz out of the picture as node-red/influx/grafana works perfect with any gateway serial/ethernet/mqtt.
                      I prefer the serial gateway in my own experience is the most stable and no reliance on wifi routers and things.
                      Domoticz has nowhere near the same flexibility when graphing etc.

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                      NeverDie
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                      @rmtucker Ahhhhhh, that's right, it was rmtucker, not toyman, who had done it: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6961/nrf5-bluetooth-action/1078

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                        tekka
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                        @NeverDie @mfalkvidd Passive nodes communicate without message ACKs - ID requests may never make their way to the controller, hence the requirement of a static node ID.

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                          @NeverDie @mfalkvidd Passive nodes communicate without message ACKs - ID requests may never make their way to the controller, hence the requirement of a static node ID.

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                          NeverDie
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                          @tekka In that case couldn't it just keep retrying until it received its ID?

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                            @tekka In that case couldn't it just keep retrying until it received its ID?

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                            @NeverDie No, that's not the idea of a passive node. However, with

                            void transportTogglePassiveMode(const bool OnOff)
                            

                            you can enable the passive transport mode, see here for additional information (>=2.2.0)

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                              @NeverDie

                              I have started to test node-red (Which dont work yet...) so I have created a dummy sketch for parse the data to domoticz.

                              // Enable debug prints
                              #define MY_DEBUG
                              #define MY_GATEWAY_SERIAL
                              
                              // Enable passive mode
                              #define MY_PASSIVE_NODE
                              #define MY_REPEATER_FEATURE
                              
                              // Passive mode requires static node ID
                              #define MY_NODE_ID 0
                              
                              // Enable and select radio type attached
                              // #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                              //#define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_HIGH
                              
                              //#define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
                              //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                              //#define MY_RADIO_RFM95
                              
                              #include <MySensors.h>
                              
                              #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
                              #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
                              #define CHILD_ID_BINARY 2
                              
                              // Initialize general message
                              MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
                              MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
                              MyMessage msgBinary(CHILD_ID_BINARY, V_STATUS);
                              int counter = 0;
                              float temperature = 0;
                              float humidity = 0;
                              int binary = 0;
                              void setup()
                              {
                              }
                              
                              void presentation()
                              {
                                // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and controller
                                sendSketchInfo("Passive node", "1.0");
                              
                                // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                                present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
                                present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
                                present(CHILD_ID_BINARY, S_BINARY);
                              }
                              
                              void loop()
                              {
                                // generate some random data
                                counter ++;
                                if (counter == 20 ){
                                  temperature = 0;
                                  humidity = 0;
                                  counter = 0;
                                }
                                else
                                {
                                  temperature = 25.0 + random(0,30)/10.0;
                                  humidity = 55.0 + random(-20,20);
                                }
                              /*
                                if (binary == 0){
                                  send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
                                  binary = 1;
                                }else {
                                  send(msgBinary.set(binary,2));
                                  binary = 0;
                              
                                }
                              */
                                send(msgTemp.set(temperature,2));
                                send(msgHum.set(humidity,2));
                                wait(1000);
                              }
                              
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                              @smilvert Got it working: https://www.openhardware.io/view/510/Multi-Sensor-TempHumidityPIR-LeakMagnetLightAccel#tabs-source

                              I cited you in the credits at the beginning of the sketch.

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