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💬 Single board computer UPS

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  • gohanG gohan

    Why the 2 batteries?

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    kalina
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    wrote on last edited by kalina
    #3

    @gohan said in 💬 Raspberry UPS (external):

    Why the 2 batteries?

    Because each battery has own advantages and disadvantages. I see the next picture:

    0_1522780039829_1972d616-19e9-4a8e-a150-1735f4a5c316-image.png

    I think that UPS must support both battery types.

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    • kalinaK kalina

      @gohan said in 💬 Raspberry UPS (external):

      Why the 2 batteries?

      Because each battery has own advantages and disadvantages. I see the next picture:

      0_1522780039829_1972d616-19e9-4a8e-a150-1735f4a5c316-image.png

      I think that UPS must support both battery types.

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      @kalina does it support connecting both batteries at the same time, giving the lipo priority since it is rechargeable? or does the user choose to connect only one of the batteries?

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      • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

        @kalina does it support connecting both batteries at the same time, giving the lipo priority since it is rechargeable? or does the user choose to connect only one of the batteries?

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        #5

        @mfalkvidd said in 💬 Raspberry UPS (external):

        @kalina does it support connecting both batteries at the same time, giving the lipo priority since it is rechargeable? or does the user choose to connect only one of the batteries?

        Yes, both batteries can be connected at the same time. This is allowed by circuit design - separate channels with MOSFET (see pic below).
        0_1522781043498_11f16144-9526-49b1-9984-4994850d78ce-image.png
        One of the tasks is develop the algorithm of functioning (priority and so on ..)

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        • kalinaK kalina

          @gohan said in 💬 Raspberry UPS (external):

          Why the 2 batteries?

          Because each battery has own advantages and disadvantages. I see the next picture:

          0_1522780039829_1972d616-19e9-4a8e-a150-1735f4a5c316-image.png

          I think that UPS must support both battery types.

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          @kalina I have missed the big one wasn't rechargeable

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            #7

            Today I have received a holder for DIN rail and i am trying to apply it for my enclosure now.

            0_1523869205934_5cef8787-8e45-4b77-a4a4-a3fb2dd44837-image.png
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            0_1523869169330_89d0ea3a-6690-4a93-9ec4-1b53fbacb5cc-image.png

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            • kalinaK kalina

              Today I have received a holder for DIN rail and i am trying to apply it for my enclosure now.

              0_1523869205934_5cef8787-8e45-4b77-a4a4-a3fb2dd44837-image.png
              0_1523869119675_c4dd03c7-c037-48f7-9955-d9a01bca44f8-image.png
              0_1523869169330_89d0ea3a-6690-4a93-9ec4-1b53fbacb5cc-image.png

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              Hello @kalina

              It looks very good, but why do not I use a DIN rail box?

              For example:
              https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-piece-87-60-52mm-din-rail-plastic-box-enclosure-junction-box-electronics-plastic-control-housing/32848666230.html

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              • G giltesa

                Hello @kalina

                It looks very good, but why do not I use a DIN rail box?

                For example:
                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-piece-87-60-52mm-din-rail-plastic-box-enclosure-junction-box-electronics-plastic-control-housing/32848666230.html

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                #9

                Hello @giltesa
                I have been looking for an enclosure for this device long time. But i didn't find suitable DIN rail enclosure. At first looks like that this one is suitable, but later one of the sizes does not fit.

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                  #10

                  I have received pcb from PCBWAY today. 11 pcs were in the box instead 10 :grinning:
                  As always, quality is excellent for little money! In a few days I'll assembly the boards.
                  0_1525359160738_pcb_1.jpg
                  2_1525359160739_pcb_3.jpg 1_1525359160739_pcb_2.jpg

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                    Interesting.
                    I am using one of these

                    http://pimodules.com/

                    It is an internal UPS (Hat on), very advanced, very small with multiple settings battery options.

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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      Interesting.
                      I am using one of these

                      http://pimodules.com/

                      It is an internal UPS (Hat on), very advanced, very small with multiple settings battery options.

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                      #12

                      @alexsh1
                      You share really great UPS! But in my case I need UPS for outdoor usage. I am going to use this UPS on temperature -20 C and lower. As for multiple settings, I put Atmega328p inside, so this UPS will be Arduino compatible and will have multiple settings too.

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                        Some photos of soldered device...

                        5_1525528221710_UPS_06.jpg 4_1525528221710_UPS_05.jpg 3_1525528221709_UPS_04.jpg 2_1525528221709_UPS_03.jpg 1_1525528221709_UPS_02.jpg 0_1525528221708_UPS_01.jpg

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                          did you hand soldered all those smd components?

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                          • gohanG gohan

                            did you hand soldered all those smd components?

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                            @gohan Yes. This first board was soldered manually. But I use the services of soldering in general.

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                            • kalinaK kalina

                              @gohan Yes. This first board was soldered manually. But I use the services of soldering in general.

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                              #16

                              @kalina
                              The PCB looks very good.
                              I thought you soldered the PCBs manually. Where do you order the assembly of PCBs? Price?

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                              • G giltesa

                                @kalina
                                The PCB looks very good.
                                I thought you soldered the PCBs manually. Where do you order the assembly of PCBs? Price?

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                                #17

                                @giltesa I order boards assembly in Ukraine. This is a small company that develops and small-scale production of electronics. The price is very different and depends on many factors, such as quantity and size of components, number of devices, etc. All questions are discussed individually.

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                                  I tested this device yesterday and found some issues. Now, I want to share results.

                                  1. The analog comparator circuit must be modified. AIN0 should left floating (unconnected) and to this pin need connect the internal 1.1V bandgap reference. The 5V_Fail signal must be connected to AIN1 pin.

                                  2. VD7 must be removed and DC-DC will be works all time except power save mode.

                                  3. Need to add the MOSFET for manage LiPo charger, because this IC interrupts accumulator detecting signal (this signal always near 4..5 volts).

                                  4. Need to add the 5V (external) detecting signal to the microcontroller .

                                  5. Many of the components values should be revised.

                                  All these remarks will be taken into account in the new revision.

                                  Everything else works perfectly!
                                  For the first revision of the device, I'm completely satisfied with the result.

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                                    #19

                                    The second revision of "Raspberry UPS" which now called "Single borad computer UPS" was received yesterday from PCBWAY.com

                                    1_1532414176006_UPS_02.jpg 0_1532414176005_UPS_01.jpg

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                                    • kalinaK kalina

                                      The second revision of "Raspberry UPS" which now called "Single borad computer UPS" was received yesterday from PCBWAY.com

                                      1_1532414176006_UPS_02.jpg 0_1532414176005_UPS_01.jpg

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                                      @kalina
                                      Privet :)
                                      Great work, I want it (rev2).

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                                        @kalina
                                        Privet :)
                                        Great work, I want it (rev2).

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                                        @berkseo Hello,
                                        Thanks!
                                        First of all I have to check hardware part, and then i am going to develop software. In my opinion, production will be start in a month. I'll share photos of the soldered device tomorrow.

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                                          #22

                                          First soldered device:

                                          0_1532781155787_UPS_2.jpg
                                          0_1532781208811_UPS_3.jpg

                                          And a small test:

                                          0_1532781143919_UPS_1.jpg

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