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[security] Introducing signing support to MySensors

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    cingolanifede
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    Hi. Is there any difference in using RFM69? Signing is supported using that radio? Thanks

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      Hi. Is there any difference in using RFM69? Signing is supported using that radio? Thanks

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      Anticimex
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      #266

      @cingolanifede signing has nothing to to with which radio you choose so yes. It supports any transport, but to my knowledge it has only been actually tested with nrf24 and rfm69.

      Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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        @Anticimex I must admit that signing is working really-really nicely on my custom made nodes (Soft sign and ATSHA204A)

        Apart from a small issue with the sensebender, which I believe is not a signing issue, it is working like a charm. All credit to you! Thank you

        Starting sensor (RNNNAS, 2.0.0-beta)
        Radio init successful.
        HTU21D Sensor1.1 - Online!
        isMetric: 1
        TempDiff :1098.00
        HumDiff  :136.75
        T: 998.00
        H: 36.75
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:998.0
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:36.7
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:3.29
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:106
        Signing required
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
        Waiting for GW to send signing preferences...
        Skipping security for command 3 type 15
        read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
        Mark node 0 as one that do not require signed messages
        Mark node 0 as one that do not require whitelisting
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
        Skipping security for command 3 type 16
        read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
        Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
        SHA256: 2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FE00000000000000
        Transmittng nonce
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0,st=ok:2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FE
        Signature in message: 01C31110DAE29D5DCD3771F68B6F29B5CCCF43A3D5397CC8
        Message to process: 00050E0306FF4D
        Current nonce: 2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
        HMAC: 0CC31110DAE29D5DCD3771F68B6F29B5CCCF43A3D5397CC89A82A89D87E931B8
        Signature OK
        read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=24,sg=0,st=ok:Temp/Hum Sensor - HTU21D
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.1
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=13,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
        Init complete, id=5, parent=0, distance=1
        TempDiff :971.94
        HumDiff  :0.02
        T: 26.06
        H: 36.72
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:26.1
        send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:36.7
        
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        • alexsh1A alexsh1

          @Anticimex I must admit that signing is working really-really nicely on my custom made nodes (Soft sign and ATSHA204A)

          Apart from a small issue with the sensebender, which I believe is not a signing issue, it is working like a charm. All credit to you! Thank you

          Starting sensor (RNNNAS, 2.0.0-beta)
          Radio init successful.
          HTU21D Sensor1.1 - Online!
          isMetric: 1
          TempDiff :1098.00
          HumDiff  :136.75
          T: 998.00
          H: 36.75
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:998.0
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:36.7
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:3.29
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:106
          Signing required
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
          Waiting for GW to send signing preferences...
          Skipping security for command 3 type 15
          read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
          Mark node 0 as one that do not require signed messages
          Mark node 0 as one that do not require whitelisting
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
          Skipping security for command 3 type 16
          read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
          Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
          SHA256: 2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FE00000000000000
          Transmittng nonce
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0,st=ok:2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FE
          Signature in message: 01C31110DAE29D5DCD3771F68B6F29B5CCCF43A3D5397CC8
          Message to process: 00050E0306FF4D
          Current nonce: 2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
          HMAC: 0CC31110DAE29D5DCD3771F68B6F29B5CCCF43A3D5397CC89A82A89D87E931B8
          Signature OK
          read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=24,sg=0,st=ok:Temp/Hum Sensor - HTU21D
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.1
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=13,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
          Init complete, id=5, parent=0, distance=1
          TempDiff :971.94
          HumDiff  :0.02
          T: 26.06
          H: 36.72
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:26.1
          send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:36.7
          
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          Anticimex
          Contest Winner
          wrote on last edited by
          #268

          @alexsh1 I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you! Glad that signing is being used and is perceived as something not to complicated to bother with. It sets us apart from many other projects dealing with the same thing :)

          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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          • AnticimexA Anticimex

            @alexsh1 I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you! Glad that signing is being used and is perceived as something not to complicated to bother with. It sets us apart from many other projects dealing with the same thing :)

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            alexsh1
            wrote on last edited by
            #269

            @Anticimex I did not say it was not complicated :)
            Just kidding - speaking just for myself, it did require some time investment to understand the concept and then upgrading my gateway and my nodes (I am still in the process of rolling signing across the rest of my nodes) to MySensors 2.0b. I probably spent more time upgrading MySensors lib and breaking some hardware in the meantime (the SMA connector on the nrf24l01+ PA+LNA) than the actual signing.

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            • alexsh1A alexsh1

              @Anticimex I did not say it was not complicated :)
              Just kidding - speaking just for myself, it did require some time investment to understand the concept and then upgrading my gateway and my nodes (I am still in the process of rolling signing across the rest of my nodes) to MySensors 2.0b. I probably spent more time upgrading MySensors lib and breaking some hardware in the meantime (the SMA connector on the nrf24l01+ PA+LNA) than the actual signing.

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              Anticimex
              Contest Winner
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              #270

              @alexsh1 yeah, well if there is room for improvement in the documentation then feel free to help put with suggestions if there is anything unclear about that :) I use doxygen to document signing features, and a link is available on the GitHub "front-page" (the readme.md)

              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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              • AnticimexA Anticimex

                @alexsh1 yeah, well if there is room for improvement in the documentation then feel free to help put with suggestions if there is anything unclear about that :) I use doxygen to document signing features, and a link is available on the GitHub "front-page" (the readme.md)

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                alexsh1
                wrote on last edited by
                #271

                @Anticimex I think a noob's section would be good. Having said that, the point is that signing is not something beginners should touch. What do you think?

                How about a section on the web-site? Somewhere here - https://www.mysensors.org/build/

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                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                  @Anticimex I think a noob's section would be good. Having said that, the point is that signing is not something beginners should touch. What do you think?

                  How about a section on the web-site? Somewhere here - https://www.mysensors.org/build/

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                  Anticimex
                  Contest Winner
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                  #272

                  @alexsh1 hm, yeah, perhaps something for @hek to consider. At least a link to the signing section of the doxygen docs could be placed there. I have tried to make the documentation as step-by-step friendly as I can. That said, as I also did the actual implementation, I may well be blind for certain aspects I take for granted that a "novice" does not.

                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                    hek
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #273

                    The next release of the main site will be much more flexible and integrated with openhardware-added projects. The idea is to allow community members to maintain their projects and/or "articles" themselves. The how-to for signing is a good example of an article.

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                      Fabien
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #274

                      This tutorial is up to date for 2.0 release ?

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                        This tutorial is up to date for 2.0 release ?

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                        Anticimex
                        Contest Winner
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #275

                        @Fabien Yes, top post is now updated for 2.0.0. Documentation is in doxygen.

                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                          Fabien
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                          #276

                          Thank you @Anticimex I will update my network soon and had RFM69 Encryption too.

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                            NiklasO
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                            #277

                            Trying this:
                            https://www.mysensors.org/build/raspberry

                            How do I enable signing and give the gateway the serial, hmac and aes-key when running on Linux? (rPi).

                            Edit: Pin 7 as random number generator maybe need some change?

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                              Trying this:
                              https://www.mysensors.org/build/raspberry

                              How do I enable signing and give the gateway the serial, hmac and aes-key when running on Linux? (rPi).

                              Edit: Pin 7 as random number generator maybe need some change?

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                              Anticimex
                              Contest Winner
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #278

                              @NiklasO @marceloaqno is working on this.

                              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                executivul
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                                #279

                                Hi,
                                I have about 100 ATSHA204 I2C variant to be used in a MySensors project.
                                Do you think that by modifying the personalizer sketch to disable the I2C bit in the configuration (0x03 word address) the chips can be set to be used as single-wire, or are they hardcoded to use only one protocol, but then why having the config bit?

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                                  Hi,
                                  I have about 100 ATSHA204 I2C variant to be used in a MySensors project.
                                  Do you think that by modifying the personalizer sketch to disable the I2C bit in the configuration (0x03 word address) the chips can be set to be used as single-wire, or are they hardcoded to use only one protocol, but then why having the config bit?

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                                  Anticimex
                                  Contest Winner
                                  wrote on last edited by Anticimex
                                  #280

                                  @executivul The bit is readonly. You cannot change it. It is used to determine the variant of chip, not to select mode of operation.
                                  From the documentation:
                                  0_1478094689558_upload-93242040-4814-4ad6-8951-4ad4d1e99a23
                                  But you are welcome to submit a pull request for adding support for I2C variants of ATSHA204a. I have none myself so I have not bothered looking into that and currently I am out of time to spend on it I am afraid.

                                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                    @executivul The bit is readonly. You cannot change it. It is used to determine the variant of chip, not to select mode of operation.
                                    From the documentation:
                                    0_1478094689558_upload-93242040-4814-4ad6-8951-4ad4d1e99a23
                                    But you are welcome to submit a pull request for adding support for I2C variants of ATSHA204a. I have none myself so I have not bothered looking into that and currently I am out of time to spend on it I am afraid.

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                                    executivul
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                                    #281

                                    @Anticimex said:
                                    But you are welcome to submit a pull request for adding support for I2C variants of ATSHA204a. I have none myself so I have not bothered looking into that and currently I am out of time to spend on it I am afraid.

                                    Please excuse my noobish ignorance: How and where do I submit one?

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                                      @Anticimex said:
                                      But you are welcome to submit a pull request for adding support for I2C variants of ATSHA204a. I have none myself so I have not bothered looking into that and currently I am out of time to spend on it I am afraid.

                                      Please excuse my noobish ignorance: How and where do I submit one?

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                                      Anticimex
                                      Contest Winner
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #282

                                      @executivul By forking the MySensors core repository and create a local git branch, do your code, push it back to your fork on GitHub and then create a pull request from that. There are good guides on GitHub for how do do it.

                                      Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                        meddie
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                                        #283

                                        ok, thank you, but do you know why the sketch didnt generate the keys, and instead of random i get only keys ffffffffffff ?
                                        thank you

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                                          ok, thank you, but do you know why the sketch didnt generate the keys, and instead of random i get only keys ffffffffffff ?
                                          thank you

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                                          Anticimex
                                          Contest Winner
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #284

                                          @meddie Without actually seeing your sketch it is pretty hard for me to help with anything ;)
                                          My guess is, you did not enable the proper defines to instruct it to generate and store any keys.

                                          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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