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NRF24L01+ and NRF24L01+PA-LNA problems - testing in progress

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  • pw44P Offline
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    wrote on last edited by pw44
    #1

    Hi all,

    i found this link:

    https://medium.com/@alencarrebeca/working-with-nrf24l01-communicating-with-nrf24l01-pa-na-b1466b4f3223

    It seams to explain some of the problems i'm having.

    Can anyone confirm this?

    Thank you in advance.

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    • pw44P pw44

      Hi all,

      i found this link:

      https://medium.com/@alencarrebeca/working-with-nrf24l01-communicating-with-nrf24l01-pa-na-b1466b4f3223

      It seams to explain some of the problems i'm having.

      Can anyone confirm this?

      Thank you in advance.

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      pw44
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @pw44 - well, today i dismantled both gateways and built the ESP8266 (Wemos D1 mini) with NRF24L01+ (board antenna) and a sensor (door) with a nano v3 with NRF24L01+ (board antenna).

      working with no problem until now.

      seams that NRF24L01+ (board antenna) to NRF24L01+ PA LNA does not work as expected......

      Will continue testing and post the results.

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      • monteM Offline
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        #3

        I have NRF24L01 PA LNA on my gateway and plain NRF24L01+ on my nodes for years. No problem with compatibility between them. You might just have faulty PA LNA module.

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        • monteM monte

          I have NRF24L01 PA LNA on my gateway and plain NRF24L01+ on my nodes for years. No problem with compatibility between them. You might just have faulty PA LNA module.

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          pw44
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @monte thx for your answer.

          which kind of gateway do you have? serial, rj45 or wifi?

          the problem i had with all 4 NRF24L01 PA LNA i have.

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          • pw44P pw44

            @monte thx for your answer.

            which kind of gateway do you have? serial, rj45 or wifi?

            the problem i had with all 4 NRF24L01 PA LNA i have.

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            wrote on last edited by monte
            #5

            @pw44 I have two different setups with Raspberry Pi gateways. One uses black noname PA LNA with external antenna, the other one uses Ebyte E01-ML01SP4 with antenna on a pigtail.
            You can try shielding PA LNA modules with some aluminium foil and electrical tape. And don't forget about proper filtering of the power rail with big enough caps, and/or changing power supply to see if it makes any difference.

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              #6

              i always had problem with that nrf pa lna, i suggest to get this one nRF24L01 PA LNA from Aliexpress
              and thank me later. those type you have in your link are nothing but problem, i have few if anyone wants let me know pay me shipping and they are yours.

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              • W wiredfrank

                i always had problem with that nrf pa lna, i suggest to get this one nRF24L01 PA LNA from Aliexpress
                and thank me later. those type you have in your link are nothing but problem, i have few if anyone wants let me know pay me shipping and they are yours.

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                #7

                @wiredfrank could you expand on which link you are referring to? Where is the link shown? I can't find it.

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                • W wiredfrank

                  i always had problem with that nrf pa lna, i suggest to get this one nRF24L01 PA LNA from Aliexpress
                  and thank me later. those type you have in your link are nothing but problem, i have few if anyone wants let me know pay me shipping and they are yours.

                  markjgabbM Offline
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                  markjgabb
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @wiredfrank 100% agree. Dodgy antennas have been the bane of my existence with mysensors. When needing the long range. DO. NOT. CHEAP. OUT.

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                  • alowhumA Offline
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                    What @wiredfrank said. Don't use these unshielded PA device in the first place.

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                      #10

                      @mfalkvidd i was referring to un-shielded NRF24L01+PA-LNA radio modules. for me they never worked and even those ones worked had very power reception even in same room.

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                        #11

                        I have two cheapo ebay NRF24L01+PA+LNA. As has been posted elsewhere nearly all are fake. I only use one at a time for my gateway. I had to do lots of fiddling to get them to communicate with my nodes . This included shielding and using an aluminium plate as a ground plane (someone criticized this but it worked for me). Ive posted about it somewhere on here. More recently I took delivery of a shielded Ebyte module and it has worked great. I have loads of the cheap NRF24L01+ modules in my nodes. Some I have added 12.5cm antennas and some dipole antennas. It does make a difference if drop outs are a problem on the more distant ones.

                        Raspberry Pi 3B - Domoticz + Node Red
                        Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24
                        Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz
                        Sonoff/ESP8266/Tasmota switches

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