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  • FotoFieberF Offline
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    FotoFieber
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    #10

    My ISP programmer uses 5V. Is it compatible, if I remove the NRF24L01+?

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      #11

      @FotoFieber

      It depends, if you are supplying the board from the ISP programmer, then Si7021 and the external flash will die very quickly, as they are not 5V tolerant..

      you can read more here

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        #12

        My congratulation! It is very cool stuff!
        Why not to post this thread http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/510/minimal-design-thoughts to the useful links on iteadstudio product page?

        sense and drive

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        • nutcrackerN Offline
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          #13

          Great stuff! Boards ordered....!

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          • FotoFieberF Offline
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            #14

            Yes, great stuff, ordered 6... wish they were available 4 weeks ago: I wouldn't have designed a minimal PCB/NRF based on the DIL version of the 328,,,,

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            • hekH Offline
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              #15

              Just ordered 6 for myself. I wouldn't want to miss out on the first batch. Only around 100 left.

              Talked to Itead today. They had to source the ATSHA204A from overseas and will start production when they arrive.

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                #16

                Picked up 5 myself

                RJ_Make

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                  #17

                  What would be the best option to add an external temperature sensor to the Sensbender Micro?
                  Another Si7021? Any thoughts?
                  I could not find any other I2C temperature sensor with the same voltage range to a reasonable price.

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                  • hekH hek

                    Just ordered 6 for myself. I wouldn't want to miss out on the first batch. Only around 100 left.

                    Talked to Itead today. They had to source the ATSHA204A from overseas and will start production when they arrive.

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                    #18

                    @hek said:

                    Just ordered 6 for myself. I wouldn't want to miss out on the first batch. Only around 100 left.

                    Talked to Itead today. They had to source the ATSHA204A from overseas and will start production when they arrive.

                    bought also 3 pieces :-)

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                      I picked up 3 and 5 radios

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                      • hetbeestH Offline
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                        #20

                        Just ordered two to start with ;)

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                          #21

                          Hope this isn't too silly a question.... The temp/humidity sensing, that works 'out of the box' without requiring me actually connecting these sensors, right?

                          And another question, would it be possible to turn the temp/hum function off and just have a motion sensor connected which would never do anything unless it sensed movement and then send a message to the gateway?

                          I've been flat out at work for a couple months so I've been away from this for a while... :-)

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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Dean

                            It will be programmed by the factory, with the "Sensebender micro" sketch, https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/master/libraries/MySensors/examples/SensebenderMicro/SensebenderMicro.ino

                            So it's plug'n'play as a sensor with temperature and humidity. You could always dump another sketch to the unit, if you want to use it for something else.

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                              I have also ordered a couple of boards to be able to evaulate them as soon as possible.

                              Just a question:

                              • What is the expected lifetime of the batteries if you use 2 AA batteries, the default preloaded sketch and reports the temp and humidity values once per minute?
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                                #24

                                Out of curiosity, can over the air updates be implemented on Arduino Nano? I'm going to get 3 to put Sense to the test. :smiley:

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                                  @gol

                                  It was measured by @blacey to 0.05 mA while sleeping and 0.95 mA during transmit. @tbowmo got some higher figures but they were most probably related to running a NRF24L01+ clone.

                                  @jeylites
                                  Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                  https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader
                                  You can test OTA updates using the MYSController. It overwrites program memory in-place during boot. If communication goes down or fails during this process the node won't boot up again (you have to upload a new sketch while connected to you computer).

                                  The sensbender has a external flash which means we can safely store the OTA firmware while normal sketch is running. When everything has been downloaded the DualOptiboot moves new firmware from flash to program memory during bootup. The code for this has been written (in development branch) but has not been tested yet (I failed handsoldering them :() .

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                                    Thankyou @tbowmo

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                                    • hekH hek

                                      @gol

                                      It was measured by @blacey to 0.05 mA while sleeping and 0.95 mA during transmit. @tbowmo got some higher figures but they were most probably related to running a NRF24L01+ clone.

                                      @jeylites
                                      Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                      https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader
                                      You can test OTA updates using the MYSController. It overwrites program memory in-place during boot. If communication goes down or fails during this process the node won't boot up again (you have to upload a new sketch while connected to you computer).

                                      The sensbender has a external flash which means we can safely store the OTA firmware while normal sketch is running. When everything has been downloaded the DualOptiboot moves new firmware from flash to program memory during bootup. The code for this has been written (in development branch) but has not been tested yet (I failed handsoldering them :() .

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                                      #27

                                      @hek said:

                                      @jeylites
                                      Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                      https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader
                                      You can test OTA updates using the MYSController. It overwrites program memory in-place during boot. If communication goes down or fails during this process the node won't boot up again (you have to upload a new sketch while connected to you computer).

                                      If the communication fails, the bootloader will remain "bootloading", i.e. will try to fetch a new firmware from the controller until the CRC matches - no need to upload a sketch via computer.

                                      MYSBootloader 2.0 will have SHA signing implemented: for those nodes without ATSHA204 which need signed OTA updates :)

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                                      • tekkaT tekka

                                        @hek said:

                                        @jeylites
                                        Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                        https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader
                                        You can test OTA updates using the MYSController. It overwrites program memory in-place during boot. If communication goes down or fails during this process the node won't boot up again (you have to upload a new sketch while connected to you computer).

                                        If the communication fails, the bootloader will remain "bootloading", i.e. will try to fetch a new firmware from the controller until the CRC matches - no need to upload a sketch via computer.

                                        MYSBootloader 2.0 will have SHA signing implemented: for those nodes without ATSHA204 which need signed OTA updates :)

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                                        @tekka said:

                                        Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                        https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader

                                        Do I have to include those files into my sketch or just install MYS on windows and it will auto detect? In other words, do I have to make any changes to the sketch?

                                        Is there any tutorial on MYS implementation?

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                                        • jeylitesJ jeylites

                                          @tekka said:

                                          Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                          https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader

                                          Do I have to include those files into my sketch or just install MYS on windows and it will auto detect? In other words, do I have to make any changes to the sketch?

                                          Is there any tutorial on MYS implementation?

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                                          hek
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                                          @jeylites

                                          You should read up on what a bootloader is and how to install it.
                                          http://www.arduino.cc/en/Hacking/Bootloader?from=Tutorial.Bootloader
                                          Might be good to start another thread if you have more MYSController/bootloader questions,

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