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110v-230v AC to Mysensors PCB board

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    jemish
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    #191

    yes , I also thinking to use more than one relay.

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      GertSanders
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      #192

      Found something interesting on Aliexpress which is a drop in replacement for the HLK-PM01:

      the HLK-PM03

      Same size and pin locations, but 110-200 V AC to 3V3 DC.

      0_1455218529807_IMG_7765.jpg

      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-HLK-PM03-AC-DC-220V-to-3-3V-Step-Down-Buck-Power-Supply-Module/32585760937.html

      It fits my multi-power options board perfectly.

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        toabhishekverma
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        #193

        Nice find GertSanders ... I am planning to use esp8266 which runs on 3.3 volt... best fit ..

        If we use this we may have to drop few things from 5.5 board right?
        Like no need of 5v - 3.3 converter
        change relay to match 3.3v like this http://vod.ebay.com/vod/FetchOrderDetails?qu=1&itemid=401045943120&transid=522355020027&viewpaymentstatus=

        Anyexpert around? do we need to remove anythingelse (any capacitor?)

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          toabhishekverma
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          #194

          But 3.3v relay will not match the board. If we use 5.5v relay do we need to add something to circuit?

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            johnr
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            Hi,

            Thank you for this pcb. In which program did you do the design? Do you think you can share an editable version of the design?

            I would like to modify it to accept the Mean Well IRM-05-5 instead of the Hi-Link.
            It is more expensive and bigger AC-DC circuit but since I hace some in my stash i would like to use them.

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            • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

              Nice find GertSanders ... I am planning to use esp8266 which runs on 3.3 volt... best fit ..

              If we use this we may have to drop few things from 5.5 board right?
              Like no need of 5v - 3.3 converter
              change relay to match 3.3v like this http://vod.ebay.com/vod/FetchOrderDetails?qu=1&itemid=401045943120&transid=522355020027&viewpaymentstatus=

              Anyexpert around? do we need to remove anythingelse (any capacitor?)

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              Yveaux
              Mod
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              #196

              @toabhishekverma said:

              change relay to match 3.3v like this http://vod.ebay.com/vod/FetchOrderDetails?qu=1&itemid=401045943120&transid=522355020027&viewpaymentstatus=

              That's a link to your shopping cart, we don't have access to...
              I'm interested in the relay, can you post a working link?

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                toabhishekverma
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                #197

                oops..

                here is the link

                http://www.ebay.com/itm/401045943120

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #198

                  I use the same SONGLE relays:

                  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-SRD-03VDC-SL-C-3V-relay-5-feet-10A/32453591000.html

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                    toabhishekverma
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                    #199

                    @GertSanders thanks for this link.
                    So do you have working prototype? what board are you using? I am in middle of finalising components and trying to finalise design. With little knowledge of electronics my progress is slow.
                    Also for 220 to 3.3v there is another converter from Olimex https://www.olimex.com/Products/Power/PWR-90-240V-3.3V0.8A/
                    overall its abit smaller then Hi-Link... Hi-Link abit better because all covered and less dangerous.

                    Please share if you have any design finalised.

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                    • GertSandersG GertSanders

                      I use the same SONGLE relays:

                      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-SRD-03VDC-SL-C-3V-relay-5-feet-10A/32453591000.html

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                      Yveaux
                      Mod
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                      #200

                      @GertSanders @toabhishekverma Do you have the dimensions and/or holding resistance?

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                        toabhishekverma
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                        #201

                        Sorry I didnt get your questions .. do you mean dimensions of 220-3.3v converter. Here they are.
                        output 2.5W 3.3V/0.8A +-0.2V size: 30x20x18mm

                        I am not from electronics background so didn't get what holding resistance means?

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                        • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

                          Sorry I didnt get your questions .. do you mean dimensions of 220-3.3v converter. Here they are.
                          output 2.5W 3.3V/0.8A +-0.2V size: 30x20x18mm

                          I am not from electronics background so didn't get what holding resistance means?

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                          Yveaux
                          Mod
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                          #202

                          @toabhishekverma No, I meant for the relay ;-)
                          What's the resistance of the 3V coil? I want to know the current flowing when the relay is active.

                          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                            @Yveaux Still no idea about it. Check link if you get something from it. what I know is it can bear up to 10A current and can be controlled using 3v .... my order still in shipping so don't know more then that.

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                            • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

                              @Yveaux Still no idea about it. Check link if you get something from it. what I know is it can bear up to 10A current and can be controlled using 3v .... my order still in shipping so don't know more then that.

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                              Mod
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                              @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                              Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

                              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                              • YveauxY Yveaux

                                @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                                Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

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                                HenryWhite
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                                @Yveaux http://www.songle.com/en/pdf/20084141716341001.pdf

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                                • HenryWhiteH HenryWhite

                                  @Yveaux http://www.songle.com/en/pdf/20084141716341001.pdf

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                                  Mod
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                                  @HenryWhite Awesome! Didn't even think of looking for a datasheet of a Chinese relay ;-)

                                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                    Porky6666
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                                    #207

                                    Another source :

                                    50Pieces/Lot JRC-21F 4100 3V DC 6 Pins Miniature PCB Relay Brand New
                                    http://s.aliexpress.com/MNVv2myE

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                                    • YveauxY Yveaux

                                      @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                                      Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

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                                      Hardware Contributor
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                                      @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

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                                      • P Porky6666

                                        Another source :

                                        50Pieces/Lot JRC-21F 4100 3V DC 6 Pins Miniature PCB Relay Brand New
                                        http://s.aliexpress.com/MNVv2myE

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                                        Hardware Contributor
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                                        #209

                                        @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

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                                        • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                          @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

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                                          @GertSanders said:

                                          @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

                                          Correct. Here's how I wired the songle relay on my Lithium Ion Sensor PCB:

                                          0_1455277788002_123123.png

                                          @GertSanders said:

                                          @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

                                          I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A. I think there is a reason no german electronics shop sells songle relays :smile:

                                          Plus, relays from an electronics shop in your country might cost the same than the songle relays or will just be a tiny bit more expensive.

                                          At least this is true for 5V relays. 3V relays are hard to find (at least in germany)

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