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110v-230v AC to Mysensors PCB board

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  • GertSandersG Offline
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    GertSanders
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    #198

    I use the same SONGLE relays:

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-SRD-03VDC-SL-C-3V-relay-5-feet-10A/32453591000.html

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    • toabhishekvermaT Offline
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      #199

      @GertSanders thanks for this link.
      So do you have working prototype? what board are you using? I am in middle of finalising components and trying to finalise design. With little knowledge of electronics my progress is slow.
      Also for 220 to 3.3v there is another converter from Olimex https://www.olimex.com/Products/Power/PWR-90-240V-3.3V0.8A/
      overall its abit smaller then Hi-Link... Hi-Link abit better because all covered and less dangerous.

      Please share if you have any design finalised.

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      • GertSandersG GertSanders

        I use the same SONGLE relays:

        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-SRD-03VDC-SL-C-3V-relay-5-feet-10A/32453591000.html

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        #200

        @GertSanders @toabhishekverma Do you have the dimensions and/or holding resistance?

        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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          #201

          Sorry I didnt get your questions .. do you mean dimensions of 220-3.3v converter. Here they are.
          output 2.5W 3.3V/0.8A +-0.2V size: 30x20x18mm

          I am not from electronics background so didn't get what holding resistance means?

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          • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

            Sorry I didnt get your questions .. do you mean dimensions of 220-3.3v converter. Here they are.
            output 2.5W 3.3V/0.8A +-0.2V size: 30x20x18mm

            I am not from electronics background so didn't get what holding resistance means?

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            #202

            @toabhishekverma No, I meant for the relay ;-)
            What's the resistance of the 3V coil? I want to know the current flowing when the relay is active.

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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            • toabhishekvermaT Offline
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              @Yveaux Still no idea about it. Check link if you get something from it. what I know is it can bear up to 10A current and can be controlled using 3v .... my order still in shipping so don't know more then that.

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              • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

                @Yveaux Still no idea about it. Check link if you get something from it. what I know is it can bear up to 10A current and can be controlled using 3v .... my order still in shipping so don't know more then that.

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                #204

                @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                  Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

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                  #205

                  @Yveaux http://www.songle.com/en/pdf/20084141716341001.pdf

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                  • HenryWhiteH HenryWhite

                    @Yveaux http://www.songle.com/en/pdf/20084141716341001.pdf

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                    @HenryWhite Awesome! Didn't even think of looking for a datasheet of a Chinese relay ;-)

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • P Offline
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                      #207

                      Another source :

                      50Pieces/Lot JRC-21F 4100 3V DC 6 Pins Miniature PCB Relay Brand New
                      http://s.aliexpress.com/MNVv2myE

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                      • YveauxY Yveaux

                        @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                        Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

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                        GertSanders
                        Hardware Contributor
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                        #208

                        @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

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                        • P Porky6666

                          Another source :

                          50Pieces/Lot JRC-21F 4100 3V DC 6 Pins Miniature PCB Relay Brand New
                          http://s.aliexpress.com/MNVv2myE

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                          GertSanders
                          Hardware Contributor
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                          #209

                          @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

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                          • GertSandersG GertSanders

                            @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

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                            #210

                            @GertSanders said:

                            @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

                            Correct. Here's how I wired the songle relay on my Lithium Ion Sensor PCB:

                            0_1455277788002_123123.png

                            @GertSanders said:

                            @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

                            I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A. I think there is a reason no german electronics shop sells songle relays :smile:

                            Plus, relays from an electronics shop in your country might cost the same than the songle relays or will just be a tiny bit more expensive.

                            At least this is true for 5V relays. 3V relays are hard to find (at least in germany)

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                            • HenryWhiteH HenryWhite

                              @GertSanders said:

                              @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

                              Correct. Here's how I wired the songle relay on my Lithium Ion Sensor PCB:

                              0_1455277788002_123123.png

                              @GertSanders said:

                              @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

                              I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A. I think there is a reason no german electronics shop sells songle relays :smile:

                              Plus, relays from an electronics shop in your country might cost the same than the songle relays or will just be a tiny bit more expensive.

                              At least this is true for 5V relays. 3V relays are hard to find (at least in germany)

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                              Hardware Contributor
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                              @HenryWhite said:

                              I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A.

                              I agree, I plan to switch lights, so my preference goes to the 10A model, just to be sure. I have used the SONGLE 5V versions, and none have ever given me reason to doubt their quality. Since I found a 3V3 powersupply I want to try building a full 3V3 board. Should be fun.

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                                @HenryWhite why do we need D1 Diode (if i am write) in that circuit? do this circuit will not work without diode?
                                (sorry dont know much about electronics)

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                                • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

                                  @HenryWhite why do we need D1 Diode (if i am write) in that circuit? do this circuit will not work without diode?
                                  (sorry dont know much about electronics)

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                                  wrote on last edited by HenryWhite
                                  #213

                                  @toabhishekverma https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_diode

                                  in short: It is needed to protect the NPN transistor from damage.
                                  The circuit will work without diode, But eventually damage the transistor.

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                                    @GertSanders Have you breadboarded your 3.3V design? I'm a bit worried that removing linear converter will impair the performance of the our fussy nRF clones due to less power supply ripple rejection. I think those going for the ESP8266 are better off.

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                                      Anyone has an idea where to source the 5.5V varistor? I received a bunch from AliExpress following which seem to be broken.
                                      I found this link http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/575651.pdf. However, there seem to be a bunch of 5.5 V varistor. Can anybody help me figuring out the right ones?

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                                        Anyone has an idea where to source the 5.5V varistor? I received a bunch from AliExpress following which seem to be broken.
                                        I found this link http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/575651.pdf. However, there seem to be a bunch of 5.5 V varistor. Can anybody help me figuring out the right ones?

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                                        @tomkxy I'm using this one: http://hu.farnell.com/multicomp/mcvz1206m050agt/varistor-multilayer-4vac-0402/dp/2462756

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                                        • m26872M m26872

                                          @GertSanders Have you breadboarded your 3.3V design? I'm a bit worried that removing linear converter will impair the performance of the our fussy nRF clones due to less power supply ripple rejection. I think those going for the ESP8266 are better off.

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                                          wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                                          #217

                                          @m26872 I have not used the 3V3 version of the Hilink converter, it was just shipped today (ordered last week). It will take a few more weeks to reach me. But then I will test it on my ac board. We will see.
                                          23/FEB: Update: the converters are here. I will make a node with this converter version this weekend.

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