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  • hekH hek

    The 1.4 version of the MySenors Arduino library is new open for beta testing.

    Arduino library and examples
    https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/development

    Vera plugin (1.4)
    https://github.com/mysensors/Vera/tree/development

    Here are some of the hi-lights.

    • Improved communication reliability (now uses hardware acks and resend functionality).
    • Simplified sketches (only one include needed).
    • Most common sleep scenarios build in.
    • Helper for permanently storing values in the Arduinos EEPROM.
    • Acknowledgments can now be requested from gateway and other sensors in network.
    • Smaller footprint.
    • The message structure has been adopted to work better on RPi platform.
    • Binary payloads supported and used for integers between sensors.
    • Configuration message (only metric setting in it today).
    • Allow static parent (no dynamic lookups)
    • Callbacks for incoming messages and time. No synchronous waiting methods any more -> no missed messages.

    All examples in the development branch above has been converted to use the new functionality of the library.

    The new API:

    /**
    * Constructor
    *
    * Creates a new instance of Sensor class.
    *
    * @param _cepin The pin attached to RF24 Chip Enable on the RF module (defualt 9)
    * @param _cspin The pin attached to RF24 Chip Select (default 10)
    */
    MySensor(uint8_t _cepin=9, uint8_t _cspin=10);
    
    /**
    * Begin operation of the MySensors library
    *
    * Call this in setup(), before calling any other sensor net library methods.
    * @param incomingMessageCallback Callback function for incoming messages from other nodes or controller and request responses. Default is NULL.
    * @param nodeId The unique id (1-254) for this sensor. Default is AUTO(255) which means sensor tries to fetch an id from controller.
    * @param repeaterMode Activate repeater mode. This node will forward messages to other nodes in the radio network. Make sure to call process() regularly. Default in false
    * @param parentNodeId Use this to force node to always communicate with a certain parent node. Default is AUTO which means node automatically tries to find a parent.
    * @param paLevel Radio PA Level for this sensor. Default RF24_PA_MAX
    * @param channel Radio channel. Default is channel 76
    * @param dataRate Radio transmission speed. Default RF24_1MBPS
    */
    
    void begin(void (* msgCallback)(const MyMessage &)=NULL, uint8_t nodeId=AUTO, boolean repeaterMode=false, uint8_t parentNodeId=AUTO, rf24_pa_dbm_e paLevel=RF24_PA_LEVEL, uint8_t channel=RF24_CHANNEL, rf24_datarate_e dataRate=RF24_DATARATE);
    
    /**
     * Return the nodes nodeId.
     */
    uint8_t getNodeId();
    
    /**
    * Each node must present all attached sensors before any values can be handled correctly by the controller.
    * It is usually good to present all attached sensors after power-up in setup().
    *
    * @param sensorId Select a unique sensor id for this sensor. Choose a number between 0-254.
    * @param sensorType The sensor type. See sensor typedef in MyMessage.h.
    * @param ack Set this to true if you want destination node to send ack back to this node. Default is not to request any ack.
    */
    void present(uint8_t sensorId, uint8_t sensorType, bool ack=false);
    
    /**
     * Sends sketch meta information to the gateway. Not mandatory but a nice thing to do.
     * @param name String containing a short Sketch name or NULL  if not applicable
     * @param version String containing a short Sketch version or NULL if not applicable
     * @param ack Set this to true if you want destination node to send ack back to this node. Default is not to request any ack.
     *
     */
    void sendSketchInfo(const char *name, const char *version, bool ack=false);
    
    /**
    * Sends a message to gateway or one of the other nodes in the radio network
    *
    * @param msg Message to send
    * @param ack Set this to true if you want destination node to send ack back to this node. Default is not to request any ack.
    * @return true Returns true if message reached the first stop on its way to destination.
    */
    bool send(MyMessage &msg, bool ack=false);
    
    /**
     * Send this nodes battery level to gateway.
     * @param level Level between 0-100(%)
     * @param ack Set this to true if you want destination node to send ack back to this node. Default is not to request any ack.
     *
     */
    void sendBatteryLevel(uint8_t level, bool ack=false);
    
    /**
    * Requests a value from gateway or some other sensor in the radio network.
    * Make sure to add callback-method in begin-method to handle request responses.
    *
    * @param childSensorId  The unique child id for the different sensors connected to this Arduino. 0-254.
    * @param variableType The variableType to fetch
    * @param destination The nodeId of other node in radio network. Default is gateway
    */
    void request(uint8_t childSensorId, uint8_t variableType, uint8_t destination=GATEWAY_ADDRESS);
    
    /**
     * Requests time from controller. Answer will be delivered to callback.
     *
     * @param callback for time request. Incoming argument is seconds since 1970.
     */
    void requestTime(void (* timeCallback)(unsigned long));
    
    
    /**
     * Processes incoming messages to this node. If this is a relaying node it will
    * Returns true if there is a message addressed for this node just was received.
    * Use callback to handle incoming messages.
    */
    boolean process();
    
    /**
     * Returns the most recent node configuration received from controller
     */
    ControllerConfig getConfig();
    
    /**
     * Save a state (in local EEPROM). Good for actuators to "remember" state between
     * power cycles.
     *
     * You have 256 bytes to play with. Note that there is a limitation on the number
     * of writes the EEPROM can handle (~100 000 cycles).
     *
     * @param pos The position to store value in (0-255)
     * @param Value to store in position
     */
    void saveState(uint8_t pos, uint8_t value);
    
    /**
     * Load a state (from local EEPROM).
     *
     * @param pos The position to fetch value from  (0-255)
     * @return Value to store in position
     */
    uint8_t loadState(uint8_t pos);
    
    /**
    * Returns the last received message
    */
    MyMessage& getLastMessage(void);
    
    /**
     * Sleep (PowerDownMode) the Arduino and radio. Wake up on timer.
     * @param ms Number of milliseconds to sleep.
     */
    void sleep(int ms);
    
    /**
     * Sleep (PowerDownMode) the Arduino and radio. Wake up on timer or pin change.
     * See: http://arduino.cc/en/Reference/attachInterrupt for details on modes and which pin
     * is assigned to what interrupt. On Nano/Pro Mini: 0=Pin2, 1=Pin3
     * @param interrupt Interrupt that should trigger the wakeup
     * @param mode RISING, FALLING, CHANGE
     * @param ms Number of milliseconds to sleep or 0 to sleep forever
     * @return true if wake up was triggered by pin change and false means timer woke it up.
     */
    bool sleep(int interrupt, int mode, int ms=0);
    
    /**
     * getInternalTemp
     *
     * Read temp from internal (ATMEGA328 only) temperature sensor. This reading is very
     * inaccurate so we round the result to full degrees celsius.
     * http://playground.arduino.cc/Main/InternalTemperatureSensor
     *
     * @return Temperature in full degrees Celsius.
     */
    int getInternalTemp(void);
    

    ###To convert an old 1.3 sketch follow this guide:

    Include section

    Remove the following includes
    #include <Sleep_n0m1.h>
    #include <EEPROM.h>
    #include <RF24.h>
    #include <Sensor.h>
    #include <Relay.h>

    Add
    #include <MySensor.h>

    Global variable scope

    Change the following lines

    Sensor gw;
    or
    Relay gw;
    

    To

    MySensor gw;
    

    Also message containers for outgoing messages. E.g. Light level message for child sensor id 1.

    MyMessage msg(1, V_LIGHT_LEVEL);
    

    ####Setup()
    In setup() replace sendPresentation with present.
    Also note that begin() now allows you to add an function-argument to get callbacks for incoming messages (actuators). begin also controls wether this node should act as an repeater node. See above for full argument list.

    ####Loop()

    The sending of values looks a bit different. The old sketches could look like this:

    gw.sendVariable(CHILD_ID_LIGHT, V_LIGHT_LEVEL, lux);
    

    In new code you send a value by using the MyMessage contaner defined in global scope. Fill it with the value to send like this (where lux is light level in this case).

     gw.send(msg.set(lux));
    

    Replace any sleeping with the new build in sleep functions. The old code might have a few lines like this:

    delay(500);
    gw.powerDown();
    sleep.pwrDownMode(); //set sleep mode
    sleep.sleepDelay(SLEEP_TIME * 1000);
    

    Replace those with:

    gw.sleep(<sleep time in milliseconds>);
    
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    Damme
    Code Contributor
    wrote on last edited by
    #83

    @hek another suggestion for addition

    RelayWithButtonActuator
    incomingMessage should check if there is any payload or not. (could be bad package)
    I use empty payload as a request for latest state (Yes I could do this some other way but I think it is logical..)

      if (msg.type==V_LIGHT && strlen(msg.getString())!=0) {
    
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      John
      Plugin Developer
      wrote on last edited by John
      #84

      Because of the use of custom variables and the possibility of receiving and sending and of many sensor type possibilities is it possible to add a "sensor" type of S_OTHER (or alike)? I think this then would be in line of having var types V_VAR1, etc.. of which then would be something else then defined.

      This will add the possibility to send other then sensor related data. This is of course possible but could semantic wise be more applicable.

      My Domotica project: http://www.pidome.org

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      • JohnJ John

        Because of the use of custom variables and the possibility of receiving and sending and of many sensor type possibilities is it possible to add a "sensor" type of S_OTHER (or alike)? I think this then would be in line of having var types V_VAR1, etc.. of which then would be something else then defined.

        This will add the possibility to send other then sensor related data. This is of course possible but could semantic wise be more applicable.

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        hek
        Admin
        wrote on last edited by
        #85

        @John

        Yes

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        • YveauxY Yveaux

          @hek said:

          Make sense?

          Makes sense ;-)

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          Admin
          wrote on last edited by
          #86

          A small serial protocol breaking change was just checked in. @John and @marceltrapman you might want to have a look at this.

          Serial protocol changed to allowing controller to know if an incoming message is an ack. Outgoing and incoming serial messages now also have the same parameter count.

          radioId;childId;messageType;ack;subType;payload\n
          

          Where ack parameter means the following:
          outgoing: 0 = unacknowledged message, 1 = request ack from destination node
          Incoming: 0 = normal message, 1 = this is an ack message

          (previously only outging messages had the ack-flag)

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            John
            Plugin Developer
            wrote on last edited by
            #87

            @hek

            Thanks for the heads up. This will give a good way of tracking messages send controller wise. I can take a look at it tomorrow evening if you would like a third party ack this works ok.

            My Domotica project: http://www.pidome.org

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            • hekH hek

              A small serial protocol breaking change was just checked in. @John and @marceltrapman you might want to have a look at this.

              Serial protocol changed to allowing controller to know if an incoming message is an ack. Outgoing and incoming serial messages now also have the same parameter count.

              radioId;childId;messageType;ack;subType;payload\n
              

              Where ack parameter means the following:
              outgoing: 0 = unacknowledged message, 1 = request ack from destination node
              Incoming: 0 = normal message, 1 = this is an ack message

              (previously only outging messages had the ack-flag)

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              Yveaux
              Mod
              wrote on last edited by
              #88

              @hek Thanks for the quick response!

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @hek Thanks for the quick response!

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                Damme
                Code Contributor
                wrote on last edited by
                #89

                @Yveaux take a look at (was thinking about your sniffer) https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/commit/c910bfdb9e54a9a41e991734b60c757968bd8210

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                • hekH hek

                  A small serial protocol breaking change was just checked in. @John and @marceltrapman you might want to have a look at this.

                  Serial protocol changed to allowing controller to know if an incoming message is an ack. Outgoing and incoming serial messages now also have the same parameter count.

                  radioId;childId;messageType;ack;subType;payload\n
                  

                  Where ack parameter means the following:
                  outgoing: 0 = unacknowledged message, 1 = request ack from destination node
                  Incoming: 0 = normal message, 1 = this is an ack message

                  (previously only outging messages had the ack-flag)

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                  John
                  Plugin Developer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #90

                  @hek I have a couple of questions:

                  Have not tested it yet, but that now ack's are possible i would like to implement a retry queue next to a normal send queue. The questions then would be:

                  • How long does it take for the longest possible message to be send?
                  • Is there a delay needed between each send?
                  • Is there an ack timeout?

                  John.

                  My Domotica project: http://www.pidome.org

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                  • DammeD Damme

                    @Yveaux take a look at (was thinking about your sniffer) https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/commit/c910bfdb9e54a9a41e991734b60c757968bd8210

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                    Yveaux
                    Mod
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #91

                    @Damme Yeah, so header changed again... Madness :facepunch:
                    I'll have to update the dissector then...

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • JohnJ John

                      @hek I have a couple of questions:

                      Have not tested it yet, but that now ack's are possible i would like to implement a retry queue next to a normal send queue. The questions then would be:

                      • How long does it take for the longest possible message to be send?
                      • Is there a delay needed between each send?
                      • Is there an ack timeout?

                      John.

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                      hek
                      Admin
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #92

                      @John

                      The send time depends on how many hops the message need to make. But on the controller side you could perhaps wait for a couple of second before trying again.

                      There is no ack timeout but each hop on the way to the destination will only be tried once (using the build in retry functionality of the nrf-chip).

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                      • hekH hek

                        The 1.4 version of the MySenors Arduino library is new open for beta testing.

                        Arduino library and examples
                        https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/development

                        Vera plugin (1.4)
                        https://github.com/mysensors/Vera/tree/development

                        Here are some of the hi-lights.

                        • Improved communication reliability (now uses hardware acks and resend functionality).
                        • Simplified sketches (only one include needed).
                        • Most common sleep scenarios build in.
                        • Helper for permanently storing values in the Arduinos EEPROM.
                        • Acknowledgments can now be requested from gateway and other sensors in network.
                        • Smaller footprint.
                        • The message structure has been adopted to work better on RPi platform.
                        • Binary payloads supported and used for integers between sensors.
                        • Configuration message (only metric setting in it today).
                        • Allow static parent (no dynamic lookups)
                        • Callbacks for incoming messages and time. No synchronous waiting methods any more -> no missed messages.

                        All examples in the development branch above has been converted to use the new functionality of the library.

                        The new API:

                        /**
                        * Constructor
                        *
                        * Creates a new instance of Sensor class.
                        *
                        * @param _cepin The pin attached to RF24 Chip Enable on the RF module (defualt 9)
                        * @param _cspin The pin attached to RF24 Chip Select (default 10)
                        */
                        MySensor(uint8_t _cepin=9, uint8_t _cspin=10);
                        
                        /**
                        * Begin operation of the MySensors library
                        *
                        * Call this in setup(), before calling any other sensor net library methods.
                        * @param incomingMessageCallback Callback function for incoming messages from other nodes or controller and request responses. Default is NULL.
                        * @param nodeId The unique id (1-254) for this sensor. Default is AUTO(255) which means sensor tries to fetch an id from controller.
                        * @param repeaterMode Activate repeater mode. This node will forward messages to other nodes in the radio network. Make sure to call process() regularly. Default in false
                        * @param parentNodeId Use this to force node to always communicate with a certain parent node. Default is AUTO which means node automatically tries to find a parent.
                        * @param paLevel Radio PA Level for this sensor. Default RF24_PA_MAX
                        * @param channel Radio channel. Default is channel 76
                        * @param dataRate Radio transmission speed. Default RF24_1MBPS
                        */
                        
                        void begin(void (* msgCallback)(const MyMessage &)=NULL, uint8_t nodeId=AUTO, boolean repeaterMode=false, uint8_t parentNodeId=AUTO, rf24_pa_dbm_e paLevel=RF24_PA_LEVEL, uint8_t channel=RF24_CHANNEL, rf24_datarate_e dataRate=RF24_DATARATE);
                        
                        /**
                         * Return the nodes nodeId.
                         */
                        uint8_t getNodeId();
                        
                        /**
                        * Each node must present all attached sensors before any values can be handled correctly by the controller.
                        * It is usually good to present all attached sensors after power-up in setup().
                        *
                        * @param sensorId Select a unique sensor id for this sensor. Choose a number between 0-254.
                        * @param sensorType The sensor type. See sensor typedef in MyMessage.h.
                        * @param ack Set this to true if you want destination node to send ack back to this node. Default is not to request any ack.
                        */
                        void present(uint8_t sensorId, uint8_t sensorType, bool ack=false);
                        
                        /**
                         * Sends sketch meta information to the gateway. Not mandatory but a nice thing to do.
                         * @param name String containing a short Sketch name or NULL  if not applicable
                         * @param version String containing a short Sketch version or NULL if not applicable
                         * @param ack Set this to true if you want destination node to send ack back to this node. Default is not to request any ack.
                         *
                         */
                        void sendSketchInfo(const char *name, const char *version, bool ack=false);
                        
                        /**
                        * Sends a message to gateway or one of the other nodes in the radio network
                        *
                        * @param msg Message to send
                        * @param ack Set this to true if you want destination node to send ack back to this node. Default is not to request any ack.
                        * @return true Returns true if message reached the first stop on its way to destination.
                        */
                        bool send(MyMessage &msg, bool ack=false);
                        
                        /**
                         * Send this nodes battery level to gateway.
                         * @param level Level between 0-100(%)
                         * @param ack Set this to true if you want destination node to send ack back to this node. Default is not to request any ack.
                         *
                         */
                        void sendBatteryLevel(uint8_t level, bool ack=false);
                        
                        /**
                        * Requests a value from gateway or some other sensor in the radio network.
                        * Make sure to add callback-method in begin-method to handle request responses.
                        *
                        * @param childSensorId  The unique child id for the different sensors connected to this Arduino. 0-254.
                        * @param variableType The variableType to fetch
                        * @param destination The nodeId of other node in radio network. Default is gateway
                        */
                        void request(uint8_t childSensorId, uint8_t variableType, uint8_t destination=GATEWAY_ADDRESS);
                        
                        /**
                         * Requests time from controller. Answer will be delivered to callback.
                         *
                         * @param callback for time request. Incoming argument is seconds since 1970.
                         */
                        void requestTime(void (* timeCallback)(unsigned long));
                        
                        
                        /**
                         * Processes incoming messages to this node. If this is a relaying node it will
                        * Returns true if there is a message addressed for this node just was received.
                        * Use callback to handle incoming messages.
                        */
                        boolean process();
                        
                        /**
                         * Returns the most recent node configuration received from controller
                         */
                        ControllerConfig getConfig();
                        
                        /**
                         * Save a state (in local EEPROM). Good for actuators to "remember" state between
                         * power cycles.
                         *
                         * You have 256 bytes to play with. Note that there is a limitation on the number
                         * of writes the EEPROM can handle (~100 000 cycles).
                         *
                         * @param pos The position to store value in (0-255)
                         * @param Value to store in position
                         */
                        void saveState(uint8_t pos, uint8_t value);
                        
                        /**
                         * Load a state (from local EEPROM).
                         *
                         * @param pos The position to fetch value from  (0-255)
                         * @return Value to store in position
                         */
                        uint8_t loadState(uint8_t pos);
                        
                        /**
                        * Returns the last received message
                        */
                        MyMessage& getLastMessage(void);
                        
                        /**
                         * Sleep (PowerDownMode) the Arduino and radio. Wake up on timer.
                         * @param ms Number of milliseconds to sleep.
                         */
                        void sleep(int ms);
                        
                        /**
                         * Sleep (PowerDownMode) the Arduino and radio. Wake up on timer or pin change.
                         * See: http://arduino.cc/en/Reference/attachInterrupt for details on modes and which pin
                         * is assigned to what interrupt. On Nano/Pro Mini: 0=Pin2, 1=Pin3
                         * @param interrupt Interrupt that should trigger the wakeup
                         * @param mode RISING, FALLING, CHANGE
                         * @param ms Number of milliseconds to sleep or 0 to sleep forever
                         * @return true if wake up was triggered by pin change and false means timer woke it up.
                         */
                        bool sleep(int interrupt, int mode, int ms=0);
                        
                        /**
                         * getInternalTemp
                         *
                         * Read temp from internal (ATMEGA328 only) temperature sensor. This reading is very
                         * inaccurate so we round the result to full degrees celsius.
                         * http://playground.arduino.cc/Main/InternalTemperatureSensor
                         *
                         * @return Temperature in full degrees Celsius.
                         */
                        int getInternalTemp(void);
                        

                        ###To convert an old 1.3 sketch follow this guide:

                        Include section

                        Remove the following includes
                        #include <Sleep_n0m1.h>
                        #include <EEPROM.h>
                        #include <RF24.h>
                        #include <Sensor.h>
                        #include <Relay.h>

                        Add
                        #include <MySensor.h>

                        Global variable scope

                        Change the following lines

                        Sensor gw;
                        or
                        Relay gw;
                        

                        To

                        MySensor gw;
                        

                        Also message containers for outgoing messages. E.g. Light level message for child sensor id 1.

                        MyMessage msg(1, V_LIGHT_LEVEL);
                        

                        ####Setup()
                        In setup() replace sendPresentation with present.
                        Also note that begin() now allows you to add an function-argument to get callbacks for incoming messages (actuators). begin also controls wether this node should act as an repeater node. See above for full argument list.

                        ####Loop()

                        The sending of values looks a bit different. The old sketches could look like this:

                        gw.sendVariable(CHILD_ID_LIGHT, V_LIGHT_LEVEL, lux);
                        

                        In new code you send a value by using the MyMessage contaner defined in global scope. Fill it with the value to send like this (where lux is light level in this case).

                         gw.send(msg.set(lux));
                        

                        Replace any sleeping with the new build in sleep functions. The old code might have a few lines like this:

                        delay(500);
                        gw.powerDown();
                        sleep.pwrDownMode(); //set sleep mode
                        sleep.sleepDelay(SLEEP_TIME * 1000);
                        

                        Replace those with:

                        gw.sleep(<sleep time in milliseconds>);
                        
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #93

                        @hek Any tips on upgrading the June 1.4b1 to the August 1.4b1. I just attempted it with disastrous results. :)

                        I started off.

                        1. Uploading the Vera files
                        2. Re-compiled the new gateway (after changing the my IP Address and such)
                        3. Re-complied the Repeaters

                        Just to get going. Both repeaters failed at startup with the standard FAIL in the debug logs. Wiping the Eeprom and trying again did not work. Dropping the repeaters for vera and re-including did not work? Finally went back to the June build and restored the vera from last night and then two other units failed to come back online. Had to replace the antennas on those two units to get them back on-line – BIZARRE.

                        1. Do all the sensors have to be updated at once?
                        2. Will existing sensors under the June 1.4b1 build co-exist with the August 1.4b1 Gateway build?
                        3. Can we just recompile our existing June sketches under the new mySensors library as long as no compile errors show?

                        Thanks

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                        • liningerL lininger

                          @hek Any tips on upgrading the June 1.4b1 to the August 1.4b1. I just attempted it with disastrous results. :)

                          I started off.

                          1. Uploading the Vera files
                          2. Re-compiled the new gateway (after changing the my IP Address and such)
                          3. Re-complied the Repeaters

                          Just to get going. Both repeaters failed at startup with the standard FAIL in the debug logs. Wiping the Eeprom and trying again did not work. Dropping the repeaters for vera and re-including did not work? Finally went back to the June build and restored the vera from last night and then two other units failed to come back online. Had to replace the antennas on those two units to get them back on-line – BIZARRE.

                          1. Do all the sensors have to be updated at once?
                          2. Will existing sensors under the June 1.4b1 build co-exist with the August 1.4b1 Gateway build?
                          3. Can we just recompile our existing June sketches under the new mySensors library as long as no compile errors show?

                          Thanks

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                          @lininger

                          Yes, you'll have to recompile/update them all as message format has changed. No need for wiping eeprom or re-include sensors. Also update Vera plugin.

                          Replacing antenna should not be necessary and I don't understand why that would change anything..

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                            @lininger

                            Yes, you'll have to recompile/update them all as message format has changed. No need for wiping eeprom or re-include sensors. Also update Vera plugin.

                            Replacing antenna should not be necessary and I don't understand why that would change anything..

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                            @hek I had a look at the latest state of the 1.4 header format and saw the sender/last/destination have moved to the front position.
                            This means the protocol version is, once again, located at a different position w.r.t. 1.3 and earlier 1.4 version.
                            For software trying to interpret any MySensors message (e.g. my sniffer or a (future) MySensors version supporting different protocol versions) or software that checks the library version to match with its own version it becomes nearly impossible to detect which library version a message was sent with.
                            I propose to start any message, now and in the future, with a protocol version (use a full byte or use some remaining bits for protocol independent data) and stick to that. This makes life for sugested applications a lot easier.
                            Adding a version which has a different offset every time makes no sense...

                            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                              @hek I had a look at the latest state of the 1.4 header format and saw the sender/last/destination have moved to the front position.
                              This means the protocol version is, once again, located at a different position w.r.t. 1.3 and earlier 1.4 version.
                              For software trying to interpret any MySensors message (e.g. my sniffer or a (future) MySensors version supporting different protocol versions) or software that checks the library version to match with its own version it becomes nearly impossible to detect which library version a message was sent with.
                              I propose to start any message, now and in the future, with a protocol version (use a full byte or use some remaining bits for protocol independent data) and stick to that. This makes life for sugested applications a lot easier.
                              Adding a version which has a different offset every time makes no sense...

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                              @Yveaux

                              Sorry.. the sniffer slipped my mind. The purpose was to prepare for future encryption (keeping the changing "last"-field first) and potential split of the routing information and payload. Which would be necessary for supporting other transportation layers (like RadioHead). They might not be interested in any MySensors version-specifics first in the radio message.

                              Do you have any suggestion?

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                                @Yveaux

                                Sorry.. the sniffer slipped my mind. The purpose was to prepare for future encryption (keeping the changing "last"-field first) and potential split of the routing information and payload. Which would be necessary for supporting other transportation layers (like RadioHead). They might not be interested in any MySensors version-specifics first in the radio message.

                                Do you have any suggestion?

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                                @hek said:

                                Do you have any suggestion?

                                It's in my post hek ;-)

                                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                  @hek I have another question: when sending from a sensor to a gateway the data can have all kinds of formats (text, byte, float etc) which comes out the gateway through the serial protocol. When sending the other way, I guess the serial data is always sent as text by the gateway to the sensor, right?
                                  Too bad we can't also use different formats when sending through the serial api... Did you think about this?

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                                    @hek said:

                                    Do you have any suggestion?

                                    It's in my post hek ;-)

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                                    @Yveaux said:

                                    It's in my post hek

                                    Yes, you suggest to always have but that might not be possible if we choose some other transportation layer (which most probably will use the first bytes for it's own routing).

                                    When sending the other way, I guess the serial data is always sent as text by the gateway to the sensor, right?
                                    Too bad we can't also use different formats when sending through the serial api... Did you think about this?

                                    Yes, I've thought about it. We have a couple of options here. Start type:ing variables through the serial protocol (controller must send datatype) or have a hard coded variable->type map on arduino side. Both of these are valid options.
                                    A binary serial protocol is also an option (could be an option when building gateway).. But that makes it harder to debug e.g. Arduino Serial Monitor.

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                                      @Yveaux said:

                                      It's in my post hek

                                      Yes, you suggest to always have but that might not be possible if we choose some other transportation layer (which most probably will use the first bytes for it's own routing).

                                      When sending the other way, I guess the serial data is always sent as text by the gateway to the sensor, right?
                                      Too bad we can't also use different formats when sending through the serial api... Did you think about this?

                                      Yes, I've thought about it. We have a couple of options here. Start type:ing variables through the serial protocol (controller must send datatype) or have a hard coded variable->type map on arduino side. Both of these are valid options.
                                      A binary serial protocol is also an option (could be an option when building gateway).. But that makes it harder to debug e.g. Arduino Serial Monitor.

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                                      @hek said:

                                      but that might not be possible if we choose some other transportation layer

                                      Then the transportation layer data is not part of mysensors protocol. It's that simple!
                                      IMHO This again boils down to nested protocol headers which we talked about before.
                                      The routing info is part of transportation layer (it could even have its own version info) followed by the mysensors header ( starting with a version number) which tells us what's in the message. Then come the actual data, be it a value, presentation info or whatever. I can make a sketch of this structure if that helps in the discussion.

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                                        @hek said:

                                        but that might not be possible if we choose some other transportation layer

                                        Then the transportation layer data is not part of mysensors protocol. It's that simple!
                                        IMHO This again boils down to nested protocol headers which we talked about before.
                                        The routing info is part of transportation layer (it could even have its own version info) followed by the mysensors header ( starting with a version number) which tells us what's in the message. Then come the actual data, be it a value, presentation info or whatever. I can make a sketch of this structure if that helps in the discussion.

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                                        @Yveaux

                                        I think we agree. Only problem is that I haven't split up the structure in mysensors-transportation/mysensors-header/mysensors-payload yet but if you look from the sniffer side this would not matter.

                                        Please post you suggested structure (but in a new thread).

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                                          @Yveaux

                                          I think we agree. Only problem is that I haven't split up the structure in mysensors-transportation/mysensors-header/mysensors-payload yet but if you look from the sniffer side this would not matter.

                                          Please post you suggested structure (but in a new thread).

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                                          I got this question from a friend and since I dont know the answer either;

                                          I'm trying to figure out the sleep mode and if the radio module wakes up or not (via INT pin 2) .. but for me it does not seam to do this. Which sleep-modes does 1.4b have and how do I see if the message is for me, and if not continue sleep?

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