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Introducing MySensors on nRF24LE1

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  • G gbfromhb

    This looks very cool. I understand the concept, and I'm more of a software guy then an electronics guy, but I have not done anything like this. Would you be able to provide a step by step or point me to something that could get me from code to getting it onto the chip. Thanks great idea.

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    @gbfromhb said:

    This looks very cool. I understand the concept, and I'm more of a software guy then an electronics guy, but I have not done anything like this. Would you be able to provide a step by step or point me to something that could get me from code to getting it onto the chip. Thanks great idea.

    Since everything is pretty much POC at the moment, no time so far to compile a doc. However, uVision Keil is the official IDE supporting those MCUs (compiler, simulator, flashing, and debugging). You will also find some information (e.g. SDK, open-source programmer, etc.) by simply searching for "nRF24LE1" ...

    More to follow...

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      Checking aliexpress:

      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/NRF24LE1-NRF24L01-MCU-Wireless-Transceiver-DIP-Wireless-Communication-Module-nE/32230173245.html

      At those sizes and prices, this could be a very interesting option. Looking forward to hearing about your progress.

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        Thank you tekka. I suspect you given me the clues I need.

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        • tekkaT tekka

          First impression of MySensors running on nRF24LE1. Reporting temperature / humidity from DHT22, VCC voltage and millis() timer.

          This SoC has many interesting features (SPI, 2-Wire, Serial, GPIO, ADC, RNG, AES accelerator, etc. ) and sub uA sleeping modes - without the need to solder a RF module. However, flash size limited to 16kB - still more than enough for many (peripheral) sensors... :)

          20150810_nRF24LE1_DHT22.jpg

          Readings in MYSController:

          20150810_nRF24LE1.png

          Compiling with SDCC and nRF24LE1 SDK.
          Source (Proof of concept/POC, non-optimized) here.

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          @tekkaYou can follow any responses to publish libraries (MyMessage.h MyMessage.cpp, ...) adapt to the SDCC compiler?

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            @tekkaYou can follow any responses to publish libraries (MyMessage.h MyMessage.cpp, ...) adapt to the SDCC compiler?

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            @alexSV said:

            @tekkaYou can follow any responses to publish libraries (MyMessage.h MyMessage.cpp, ...) adapt to the SDCC compiler?

            For the example above the standard MyMessage.h library was used. All other dependencies can be found in the nRF24LE1 SDK from nordic.

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              @alexSV said:

              @tekkaYou can follow any responses to publish libraries (MyMessage.h MyMessage.cpp, ...) adapt to the SDCC compiler?

              For the example above the standard MyMessage.h library was used. All other dependencies can be found in the nRF24LE1 SDK from nordic.

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              @tekka sdсс not support __attribute ((packed)). Or do you use a different compiler?

              sdcc --model-large --std-sdcc99 -Iinclude -I../SDK/_target_sdcc_nrf24le1_32/include -I../SDK/include -I./aes/include -c src/main.c -o "obj/"
              include/MyMessage.h:308: syntax error: token -> '(' ; column 18
              make: *** [obj/main.rel] Ошибка 1
              (attribute((packed));)
              and
              sdcc --model-large --std-sdcc99 -Iinclude -I../SDK/_target_sdcc_nrf24le1_32/include -I../SDK/include -I./aes/include -c src/main.c -o "obj/"
              src/main.c:74: syntax error: token -> 'outMsg' ; column 16
              make: *** [obj/main.rel] Ошибка 1

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                @tekka sdсс not support __attribute ((packed)). Or do you use a different compiler?

                sdcc --model-large --std-sdcc99 -Iinclude -I../SDK/_target_sdcc_nrf24le1_32/include -I../SDK/include -I./aes/include -c src/main.c -o "obj/"
                include/MyMessage.h:308: syntax error: token -> '(' ; column 18
                make: *** [obj/main.rel] Ошибка 1
                (attribute((packed));)
                and
                sdcc --model-large --std-sdcc99 -Iinclude -I../SDK/_target_sdcc_nrf24le1_32/include -I../SDK/include -I./aes/include -c src/main.c -o "obj/"
                src/main.c:74: syntax error: token -> 'outMsg' ; column 16
                make: *** [obj/main.rel] Ошибка 1

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                @alexSV remove __attribute ((packed)) from the .h file.

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                  @alexSV remove __attribute ((packed)) from the .h file.

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                  @tekka Thanks - works

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                    @alexSV remove __attribute ((packed)) from the .h file.

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                    @tekka Nice project. This would be very useful for small, battery powered, binary sensors. What did you use to program the nRF24LE1?

                    Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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                      @tekka Nice project. This would be very useful for small, battery powered, binary sensors. What did you use to program the nRF24LE1?

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                      @Dwalt I used this programmer.

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                        I've done a lot of work on this chip. Nothing for this project though.

                        You can take a look here.
                        https://hackaday.io/project/6270-io-node

                        @tekka I released my code under GPL3.

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                            sdcc --model-large --std-sdcc99-Iinclude -I../nRF24LE1_SDK/_target_sdcc_nrf24le1_32/include -I../nRF24LE1_SDK/
                            include -L../nRF24LE1_SDK/ -c main.c
                            Have:
                            main.c:374: warning 158: overflow in implicit constant conversion
                            What is this error and how to fix it?

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                              Thanks a lot for this, that's exactly what I was looking for.
                              This is very cheap, small, and low power.
                              I'm still waiting to receive one to try.

                              Please note the existance of existing libraries including a wiring library which looks great:
                              https://hackaday.io/project/5794-nrf24le1-wiring-library
                              It is written by Justin who just posted above.
                              There is also a rf24.h there, I don't know if it is compatible with arduino's lib?

                              It seems you have made your own digitalRead/Write?

                              I'm still very new to all this.
                              I will start to setup a dev environment (ubuntu) and try to compile your stuff.

                              Do you plan something else?
                              Create a library? Is MySensor only C++? Is there a plan to create a C MySensor library?
                              Too bad that most MySensor examples are in C++...
                              Would you like to create a github repo?

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                                Thanks a lot for this, that's exactly what I was looking for.
                                This is very cheap, small, and low power.
                                I'm still waiting to receive one to try.

                                Please note the existance of existing libraries including a wiring library which looks great:
                                https://hackaday.io/project/5794-nrf24le1-wiring-library
                                It is written by Justin who just posted above.
                                There is also a rf24.h there, I don't know if it is compatible with arduino's lib?

                                It seems you have made your own digitalRead/Write?

                                I'm still very new to all this.
                                I will start to setup a dev environment (ubuntu) and try to compile your stuff.

                                Do you plan something else?
                                Create a library? Is MySensor only C++? Is there a plan to create a C MySensor library?
                                Too bad that most MySensor examples are in C++...
                                Would you like to create a github repo?

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                                Justin Decker
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                                @jobarjo thanks for taking a look. The Wiring library isn't much more than a bunch of macros for the SDK. I chose to do it that way because SDCC will keep unused code in the output it generates. So yes, there is most everything you would expect if you are coming from arduino. digitalRead etc are all there.

                                There is also a very alpha version of the RF24 library. It is in C of course, so a small amount of porting is needed.

                                Let me know if you run into any problems. I am busy with another project at the moment with the nrf51822 SoC which is actually similarly priced and much more capable, although much more cumbersome to work with at the moment.

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                                  @Justin-Decker said:

                                  nrf51822

                                  module costs 6.18 euro on ebay, 32 bit arm 16k sram, 256k flash!!
                                  compatible with nrf24 radio and bluetooth smart.
                                  I'm impressed!
                                  Seems compatible with arm mbed, and there even exists arduino add-on ? (looks like commercial...)
                                  I will look at existence of linux tools, will order one, and see if porting mysensor on this is easy...

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                                    @Justin-Decker said:

                                    nrf51822

                                    module costs 6.18 euro on ebay, 32 bit arm 16k sram, 256k flash!!
                                    compatible with nrf24 radio and bluetooth smart.
                                    I'm impressed!
                                    Seems compatible with arm mbed, and there even exists arduino add-on ? (looks like commercial...)
                                    I will look at existence of linux tools, will order one, and see if porting mysensor on this is easy...

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                                    Justin Decker
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                                    @jobarjo Yes, there are implementations using mbed. If you go that route, you also get a nice BLE API to work with as well as all the standard mbed stuff. I haven't looked too closely at the Arduino board (Red Bear), but their source is on github so you can pull that and work with it without having the actual board.

                                    https://hackaday.io/project/8512-nrf51822-development is my project for this chip. It includes a working project skeleton and instructions on setting up debugging. It uses a custom board that I made, but I suspect the one you linked to on ebay will work.

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                                      Diogo Salazar
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                                      Quick question on the topic of using the nRF24LE1 as a platform.
                                      Can the AES accelerator be used in order to sign messages?

                                      Thanks.

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                                        Anticimex
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                                        No, AES is used for encryption. The HMAC/SHA256 signing format MySensors use, has no benefit of AES.

                                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                          @Anticimex : Thanks for the quick response. I have got my terms mixed there, thanks for clarifying.

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