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    bkenobi
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    #266

    Can anyone provide the correct wiring for NodeMCU (ESP-12E) to RFM69HW? I have seen several different guides that show connections for RFM69, but there are several different patterns and none have worked so far. Perhaps I didn't get it right, but this is what I've seen and tried:

    someburner/esp-rfm69

    RFM69->	ESP-12E
    MISO	GPIO12
    MOSI	GPIO13
    SCK		GPIO14
    CS/SS	GPIO15
    DIO0	GPIO5
    VCC		3V3
    GND		GND
    ANA		<antenna>
    

    halburd/NodeMCU-Gateway

    RFM69->	NodeMCU
    NSS		GPIO2 (J2P5)
    SCK		SCK (J1P9)
    MISO	MISO (J1P8)
    MOSI	MOSI (J1P6)
    DIO0	SS (J1P7)
    VCC		3V3
    GND		GND
    ANA		<antenna>
    

    I've also determined that the following should also be correct, though again, they all don't match.

    RFM69	ESP-12E	WEMOS D1	NodeMCUv3
    MISO	GPIO12	D6/D12		D6
    MOSI	GPIO13	D7/D11		D7
    SCK		GPIO14	D5/D13		D5
    CS/SS	GPIO15	D10			D8
    DIO0	GPIO5	D3/D15		D1
    

    I've also tried to figure out how to use the nRF24L0+ wiring, but that doesn't quite match either. If someone could simply post a working config, I could get some traction on my project.

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      #267

      Looking at the different charts, I've located some errors (I think).

      Looking at someburner's setup, it looks like he is opting to use software SPI rather than hardware as the ESP pins for SPI are not on GPIO12-15.

      Looking at halburd's code, it appears that he's opted to use GPIO2 for slave select and connect the actual SS to DIO0. I'm not clear why this is done, but it seems odd.

      I lost the reference to the last chart. It also uses GPIO's for SPI rather than the built-in hardware SPI. The guide in this sketch is only documented for nRF24L01+, so it doesn't match exactly. But, it also uses GPIO 4, 12, 13, 14, 15. It seems odd to use those rather than the SPI pins.

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        Mark Swift
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        I tried to get the ESP8266 gateway working for 2 weeks but kept getting st=fail at various times. Switching to a serial gateway fixed it straight away? Is this a known issue? Is it perhaps related to having the ESP8266 and the nRF24L01's so close together? BTW, I tied both the normal gateway and the MQTT gateway without much success. The who time I thought it was a radio issue :-/

        This was all running on a NodeMCU v1.0.

        Mark

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        • Mark SwiftM Mark Swift

          I tried to get the ESP8266 gateway working for 2 weeks but kept getting st=fail at various times. Switching to a serial gateway fixed it straight away? Is this a known issue? Is it perhaps related to having the ESP8266 and the nRF24L01's so close together? BTW, I tied both the normal gateway and the MQTT gateway without much success. The who time I thought it was a radio issue :-/

          This was all running on a NodeMCU v1.0.

          Mark

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          @Mark-Swift Did you follow the connection in the ESP build guide?
          Did you make any changes to the sketch? Which MySensors version did you use and which ESP Arduino version?
          Just asking all these questions so we can be of better help.

          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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          • YveauxY Yveaux

            @Mark-Swift Did you follow the connection in the ESP build guide?
            Did you make any changes to the sketch? Which MySensors version did you use and which ESP Arduino version?
            Just asking all these questions so we can be of better help.

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            Mark Swift
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            @Yveaux I believe so, the nNF24L01 is connected to a NodeMCU (I've tried feeding the radio off both the onboard 3.3v and via VIN and a 1117 3.3v regulator (I have caps across the radio GND / VCC).

            No changes were made to the sketch - I'm using the latest development build (also on the nodes). I've tried with all of the ESP Arduino board versions, doesn't seem to change anything?

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            • Mark SwiftM Mark Swift

              I tried to get the ESP8266 gateway working for 2 weeks but kept getting st=fail at various times. Switching to a serial gateway fixed it straight away? Is this a known issue? Is it perhaps related to having the ESP8266 and the nRF24L01's so close together? BTW, I tied both the normal gateway and the MQTT gateway without much success. The who time I thought it was a radio issue :-/

              This was all running on a NodeMCU v1.0.

              Mark

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              @Mark-Swift said:

              kept getting st=fail at various times

              Now I read over your post again I get the impression that it sometimes works, and sometimes you get st=fail. Is this correct?

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                Mark Swift
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                #272

                Example - I'm sat here right now with one of my nodes and the gateway connected to my Macbook via USB.

                When using the serial gateway I get =ok after each item no problem; in fact I can't make it fail.

                When using the ESP8266 MQTT gateway I get:

                Starting repeater (RNNRA-, 2.0.0-beta)
                Radio init successful.
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=13,sg=0,st=ok:R+M+L+T+D+Rpt
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.1
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=3,c=0,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=0,t=15,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=10,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=11,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=12,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=fail:2.0.0-beta
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                Init complete, id=3, parent=0, distance=1
                Moisture Sensor: 0
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                Rain Sensor: 0
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                LUX: 54612
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=3,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:54612
                Distance: 0 cm
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=13,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                No rain or moisture detected, landroid is not waiting: Status(0)
                Landroid is free to go and is now waiting on the schedule: Status(0)
                Landroid is home charging!
                Sending landroidHome (1) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=10,c=1,t=16,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:1
                Sending landroidWaitingTriggered (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=11,c=1,t=16,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                Sending timeElapsed (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=12,c=1,t=48,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=fail:0

                Using the serial gateway on a nano (Not connected to anything, just the nano and nRF24L01) I get:

                Starting repeater (RNNRA-, 2.0.0-beta)
                Radio init successful.
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=13,sg=0,st=ok:R+M+L+T+D+Rpt
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.1
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=3,c=0,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=0,t=15,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=10,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=11,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=12,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                Init complete, id=3, parent=0, distance=1
                Moisture Sensor: 0
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                Rain Sensor: 0
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                LUX: 54612
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=3,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:54612
                Distance: 69 cm
                send: 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=13,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:69
                No rain or moisture detected, landroid is not waiting: Status(0)
                Landroid is free to go and is now waiting on the schedule: Status(0)
                Landroid is out cutting the grass!
                Sending landroidHome (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=10,c=1,t=16,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                Sending landroidWaitingTriggered (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=11,c=1,t=16,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                Sending timeElapsed (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=12,c=1,t=48,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0

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                • Mark SwiftM Mark Swift

                  Example - I'm sat here right now with one of my nodes and the gateway connected to my Macbook via USB.

                  When using the serial gateway I get =ok after each item no problem; in fact I can't make it fail.

                  When using the ESP8266 MQTT gateway I get:

                  Starting repeater (RNNRA-, 2.0.0-beta)
                  Radio init successful.
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=13,sg=0,st=ok:R+M+L+T+D+Rpt
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.1
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=3,c=0,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=0,t=15,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=10,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=11,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=12,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=fail:2.0.0-beta
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  Init complete, id=3, parent=0, distance=1
                  Moisture Sensor: 0
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  Rain Sensor: 0
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  LUX: 54612
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=3,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:54612
                  Distance: 0 cm
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=13,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  No rain or moisture detected, landroid is not waiting: Status(0)
                  Landroid is free to go and is now waiting on the schedule: Status(0)
                  Landroid is home charging!
                  Sending landroidHome (1) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=10,c=1,t=16,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:1
                  Sending landroidWaitingTriggered (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=11,c=1,t=16,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  Sending timeElapsed (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=12,c=1,t=48,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=fail:0

                  Using the serial gateway on a nano (Not connected to anything, just the nano and nRF24L01) I get:

                  Starting repeater (RNNRA-, 2.0.0-beta)
                  Radio init successful.
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=13,sg=0,st=ok:R+M+L+T+D+Rpt
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.1
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=3,c=0,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=0,t=15,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=10,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=11,c=0,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=12,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  Init complete, id=3, parent=0, distance=1
                  Moisture Sensor: 0
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  Rain Sensor: 0
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=16,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  LUX: 54612
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=3,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:54612
                  Distance: 69 cm
                  send: 3-3-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=13,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:69
                  No rain or moisture detected, landroid is not waiting: Status(0)
                  Landroid is free to go and is now waiting on the schedule: Status(0)
                  Landroid is out cutting the grass!
                  Sending landroidHome (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=10,c=1,t=16,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  Sending landroidWaitingTriggered (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=11,c=1,t=16,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  Sending timeElapsed (0) status to gateway: send: 3-3-0-0 s=12,c=1,t=48,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0

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                  #273

                  @Mark-Swift It does work sometimes, so that rules out a lot of possible problems!
                  How do you power the NodeMCU & rest of the hardware?
                  Both NodeMCU & nRF are very sensitive to low/noisy supplies.

                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    @Mark-Swift It does work sometimes, so that rules out a lot of possible problems!
                    How do you power the NodeMCU & rest of the hardware?
                    Both NodeMCU & nRF are very sensitive to low/noisy supplies.

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                    #274

                    @Yveaux I power the NodeMCU from either my Macbook Retina, or from a decent USB wall plug, tbh, it seems to make little difference which I use. I presume everyone else is powering them via the USB also?

                    I've also tried a spare NodeMCU and a bunch of radios. In fact, I've been trying to get this working for 3 weeks, it's literally going to cause a divorce soon :-/

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                    • Mark SwiftM Mark Swift

                      @Yveaux I power the NodeMCU from either my Macbook Retina, or from a decent USB wall plug, tbh, it seems to make little difference which I use. I presume everyone else is powering them via the USB also?

                      I've also tried a spare NodeMCU and a bunch of radios. In fact, I've been trying to get this working for 3 weeks, it's literally going to cause a divorce soon :-/

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                      #275

                      @Mark-Swift The log mentions Moisture Sensor, Rain Sensor, LUX, Distance.
                      Are these real sensor connected (and yes, how) or virtual?

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                        Mark Swift
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                        @Yveaux real sensors connected to my robot mower garage node...

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                          Mark Swift
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                          @Yveaux Node code is here for reference:

                          http://pastebin.com/mxkLq1Rp

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                            @Yveaux Node code is here for reference:

                            http://pastebin.com/mxkLq1Rp

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                            @Mark-Swift To be frank: I don't know.
                            I'm quite sure it has nothing to do with the ESP port, or software in general.
                            You could try different orientation of the nRF, or move it closer to the sensor(s).

                            Are you using an amplified nRF24 btw?

                            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                              @Yveaux That's a shame, I'd really like to solve this. I've tried the radios orientated different ways but it makes little difference. Not using a PA+LNB, I was but gave up on it as I thought it was the issue (Now realise it wasn't).

                              Strange that I only see these issues with the ESP, and as soon as I switch to a Nano running the serial gateway they're gone.

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                                @Yveaux That's a shame, I'd really like to solve this. I've tried the radios orientated different ways but it makes little difference. Not using a PA+LNB, I was but gave up on it as I thought it was the issue (Now realise it wasn't).

                                Strange that I only see these issues with the ESP, and as soon as I switch to a Nano running the serial gateway they're gone.

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                                @Mark-Swift I always use my sniffer in this case to see what's going on on air, but I don't know if your marriage will survive another sniffer build :innocent:

                                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                  @Yveaux I doubt it will, seems I'm destined to build a serial gateway, crap, I've invested so much time in this and tried everything!

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                                    #282

                                    @Yveaux How about this, for a laugh I just tried rolling the ESP8266 gateway back to v1.5 (master).

                                    Guess what? It works every time with no fails (communicating with my 2.0.0 beta node). So the issue lies with the latest development version somewhere, any ideas?
                                    ~~
                                    Insane, I just took the gateway down the other end of the house and not one fail, wow! So okay, what was changed in version 2.0.0?

                                    UPDATE: After more investigation, the reason it was working is because v1.5 only has a straight forward gateway version, and until now I've been using the MQTT client. It seems the gateway versions work fine, but the MQTT client version create the fails!

                                    UPDATE 2: Okay, I can reproduce the fails with the gateway too, let me try and explain. When the gateway is not connected to anything (for example Domoticz) I get OK all of the time, no fails whatsoever. If I connect to Domoticz, I start to get fails against certain child sensors (it's always the same!). I presume it's sketch related, or even the amount of node updates I'm sending? As I believe the fails are the same I'm seeing with the MQTT client.

                                    UPDATE 3: Nearly 3 weeks in and I've just figured out what has been causing me all this pain. I've always commented out the default 9600 serial baud define on the ESP8266 sketches. It seems this combined with the 200ms TCP delay has been causing me my issues when connecting to my Windows 7 machine. S$%&*!

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                                    • Mark SwiftM Mark Swift

                                      @Yveaux How about this, for a laugh I just tried rolling the ESP8266 gateway back to v1.5 (master).

                                      Guess what? It works every time with no fails (communicating with my 2.0.0 beta node). So the issue lies with the latest development version somewhere, any ideas?
                                      ~~
                                      Insane, I just took the gateway down the other end of the house and not one fail, wow! So okay, what was changed in version 2.0.0?

                                      UPDATE: After more investigation, the reason it was working is because v1.5 only has a straight forward gateway version, and until now I've been using the MQTT client. It seems the gateway versions work fine, but the MQTT client version create the fails!

                                      UPDATE 2: Okay, I can reproduce the fails with the gateway too, let me try and explain. When the gateway is not connected to anything (for example Domoticz) I get OK all of the time, no fails whatsoever. If I connect to Domoticz, I start to get fails against certain child sensors (it's always the same!). I presume it's sketch related, or even the amount of node updates I'm sending? As I believe the fails are the same I'm seeing with the MQTT client.

                                      UPDATE 3: Nearly 3 weeks in and I've just figured out what has been causing me all this pain. I've always commented out the default 9600 serial baud define on the ESP8266 sketches. It seems this combined with the 200ms TCP delay has been causing me my issues when connecting to my Windows 7 machine. S$%&*!

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                                      @Mark-Swift Well, look on it from the bright side: your marriage is saved now :bowtie:
                                      There have been more reports from issues with connections to external servers (e.g. MQTT, Domotiocz) that take too long.
                                      Maybe we should pull @hek in as he wrote the MQTT client for ESP.

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                                        What adjustments do you propose to the MQTT sketch/driver?

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                                          What adjustments do you propose to the MQTT sketch/driver?

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                                          @hek I'm not familiar with the exact implementation at the moment. Just hoped you would have a hunch where these issues might arise from or how we can prevent them...

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