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  • m26872M m26872

    @Tomasz-Pazio Sounds more like some issue with the IDE and boards file than hw and fuses/bootloader. Have you tried different IDE versions?

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    Tomasz Pazio
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    #208

    @m26872 thanks for advice, bootloader burned on IDE 1.0.x and after that, sketches are uploaded properly on 1.6.x.

    One more question, how it should report battery state? I can not see any variable created for this in Vera.

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    • Tomasz PazioT Tomasz Pazio

      @m26872 thanks for advice, bootloader burned on IDE 1.0.x and after that, sketches are uploaded properly on 1.6.x.

      One more question, how it should report battery state? I can not see any variable created for this in Vera.

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      m26872
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by
      #209

      @Tomasz-Pazio Great! If I remember Vera correct, a variable should be created automaticly upon first message if you use the sendbatterylevel() fuction.

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      • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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        #210

        anyone care to write down the exact precedure of how to burn a new bootloader to the atmel chip? what files goes to what folders and so on.

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        • GertSandersG Offline
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          GertSanders
          Hardware Contributor
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          #211

          @Cliff-Karlsson I'm experimenting with several versions of Optiboot (various upload and upload combinations) for my board. Once that is done, I will add it to the documentation of my board. I'm extending the sketch found here:

          http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11635

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          • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

            anyone care to write down the exact precedure of how to burn a new bootloader to the atmel chip? what files goes to what folders and so on.

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            m26872
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #212

            @Cliff-Karlsson Let's continue your bootloader trouble discussion in it's own thread:
            http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2975/how-do-i-burn-a-bootloader-to-an-328p-with-uno-bootloader-preinstalled/8

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            • rsachocR Offline
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              rsachoc
              wrote on last edited by rsachoc
              #213

              OK, so finally I have received most of the parts I need to build a few of these sensors. I want to go with a temp sensor at first, the si7021. So I wanted to check what "other bits" I need (newb alert).

              0_1454624296448_upload-80039080-fce7-4484-b238-a54bdb2d28fd

              From there, do I need both 1 and 2? If so, what are these?

              0_1454624355650_upload-36748b2e-623b-4953-bdb4-394fbe264ef6

              From here, what are 3 and 4? Do I need both?

              Also, depending on the answers above, do I solder to exactly the same pins? Have I missed anything?

              Thanks

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              • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                Cliff Karlsson
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                #214

                Ok, finaly succeded in burning the bootloader. Now comes next part. Fuses and lockbits, I have no idea what this means but is this what I need to do?

                avrdude -C ../etc/avrdude.conf -c usbasp -B5 -p ATmega328P -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xDE:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m -U lock:w:0x2F:m
                
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                • M Offline
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                  meddie
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                  #215

                  oh, yes! And you have to be carefully with them, because to set the fuses wrong, can destroy your µcontroller

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                    meddie
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #216

                    if you look to message Nr 179 you will find my bootloader and the correct fuses for this. But its a 1MHz Bootloader and the fuses too.
                    Dont use it if you want to run it at 8 MHz.

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                      #217

                      Web-based fuse calculator
                      A different way of evaluating fuses is presented at this web page:
                      http://www.engbedded.com/fusecalc

                      At the bottom I inserted your fuses.
                      Translation:
                      Divide by8-> if your mcy board uses 8Mhz, then you now use 1Mhz Clock (Good this enables that you now can use a lower voltage down to 1,9V)
                      SPI is enabled, then you can program your mcu with FTDI cable
                      BOD mcu will not power down mcu when you have a low voltage (So you can use down to 1,9V)
                      I write 1,9Volt since this is the lowest voltage your NRF24L01+ can use for operation

                      0_1454685582246_upload-5f146d65-d819-455d-8d3c-ed029eb79abb

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                      • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                        Cliff Karlsson
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #218

                        Sorry for asking the same questions over and over but I have just used the files linked at the top of this thread.

                        This is the bootloader that I used:

                        atmega328_1a.hex (Optiboot for 9600baud at 1MHz)
                        
                        
                        ##############################################################
                        # Add the new board to boards.txt (normally located at "C:\Program Files\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr"
                        # The *.bootloader.* etries only matters if you want to program bootloader (and fuses) from Arduino IDE. 
                        # See http://www.engbedded.com/fusecalc (select Atmega328p) for interpretation of fuse values and how 
                        # extended fuses are written in different applications (07h in Arduino IDE = FFh in Atmel studio).
                        ##############################################################
                        
                        apm96.name=APM Optiboot internal 1MHz noBOD 9600baud
                        
                        apm96.upload.tool=avrdude
                        apm96.upload.protocol=arduino
                        apm96.upload.maximum_size=32256
                        apm96.upload.speed=9600
                        apm96.bootloader.tool=avrdude
                        apm96.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                        apm96.bootloader.high_fuses=0xde
                        apm96.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
                        apm96.bootloader.path=optiboot_v50
                        apm96.bootloader.file=atmega328_1a.hex
                        apm96.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
                        apm96.bootloader.lock_bits=0x2F
                        apm96.build.mcu=atmega328p
                        apm96.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                        apm96.build.core=arduino
                        apm96.build.variant=standard
                        
                        

                        Do I still need to add fuses or is that done when the bootloader is burned?

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                        • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                          Sorry for asking the same questions over and over but I have just used the files linked at the top of this thread.

                          This is the bootloader that I used:

                          atmega328_1a.hex (Optiboot for 9600baud at 1MHz)
                          
                          
                          ##############################################################
                          # Add the new board to boards.txt (normally located at "C:\Program Files\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr"
                          # The *.bootloader.* etries only matters if you want to program bootloader (and fuses) from Arduino IDE. 
                          # See http://www.engbedded.com/fusecalc (select Atmega328p) for interpretation of fuse values and how 
                          # extended fuses are written in different applications (07h in Arduino IDE = FFh in Atmel studio).
                          ##############################################################
                          
                          apm96.name=APM Optiboot internal 1MHz noBOD 9600baud
                          
                          apm96.upload.tool=avrdude
                          apm96.upload.protocol=arduino
                          apm96.upload.maximum_size=32256
                          apm96.upload.speed=9600
                          apm96.bootloader.tool=avrdude
                          apm96.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                          apm96.bootloader.high_fuses=0xde
                          apm96.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
                          apm96.bootloader.path=optiboot_v50
                          apm96.bootloader.file=atmega328_1a.hex
                          apm96.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
                          apm96.bootloader.lock_bits=0x2F
                          apm96.build.mcu=atmega328p
                          apm96.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                          apm96.build.core=arduino
                          apm96.build.variant=standard
                          
                          

                          Do I still need to add fuses or is that done when the bootloader is burned?

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                          ahmedadelhosni
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #219

                          @Cliff-Karlsson

                          It is already done when you burn the bootloader.

                          apm96.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                          apm96.bootloader.high_fuses=0xde

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                          • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                            Ok, finaly succeded in burning the bootloader. Now comes next part. Fuses and lockbits, I have no idea what this means but is this what I need to do?

                            avrdude -C ../etc/avrdude.conf -c usbasp -B5 -p ATmega328P -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xDE:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m -U lock:w:0x2F:m
                            
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                            m26872
                            Hardware Contributor
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #220

                            @Cliff-Karlsson said:

                            Ok, finaly succeded in burning the bootloader.

                            Great news!! With Arduino as ISP? Any particular tips to share?

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                              Cliff Karlsson
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #221

                              @m26872 I am fairly sure that all methods work in normal cases but nothing worked for me fore some reason :) .

                              The only way I could get it to work was when I finaly put the chip in an Arduino Uno clone with 328p Dip(?) socket and connected an USBtiny ISP to the ISCP of that Uno. It took just a couple of seconds and then it was done :).

                              I flashed like 6-7 ships right away with bootloader and blink-sketch just for fun. Biggest problem now is to get the damn chip in/out of the sockets without bending any legs. But I ordered a chip extractor to remedy that problem (in 4-6 weeks :()

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                              • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                @m26872 I am fairly sure that all methods work in normal cases but nothing worked for me fore some reason :) .

                                The only way I could get it to work was when I finaly put the chip in an Arduino Uno clone with 328p Dip(?) socket and connected an USBtiny ISP to the ISCP of that Uno. It took just a couple of seconds and then it was done :).

                                I flashed like 6-7 ships right away with bootloader and blink-sketch just for fun. Biggest problem now is to get the damn chip in/out of the sockets without bending any legs. But I ordered a chip extractor to remedy that problem (in 4-6 weeks :()

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                                m26872
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #222

                                @Cliff-Karlsson
                                :thumbsup:

                                To get the ICs out from the DIP socket, I just use a small screw driver (2-3mm) and gently push it all the way under from one side only. And of course, don't push in the IC to hard to begin with.

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                                • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                  @m26872 I am fairly sure that all methods work in normal cases but nothing worked for me fore some reason :) .

                                  The only way I could get it to work was when I finaly put the chip in an Arduino Uno clone with 328p Dip(?) socket and connected an USBtiny ISP to the ISCP of that Uno. It took just a couple of seconds and then it was done :).

                                  I flashed like 6-7 ships right away with bootloader and blink-sketch just for fun. Biggest problem now is to get the damn chip in/out of the sockets without bending any legs. But I ordered a chip extractor to remedy that problem (in 4-6 weeks :()

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                                  bjacobse
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #223

                                  @Cliff-Karlsson
                                  You shall buy Textool ZIF socket. not sure which fits your Arduino, If you at some point get's lazy (Solder less, and accept to use a little more space) and use Arduino Pro Mini then textool 224-3344 ZIF will be your friend

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                                    rsachoc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #224

                                    Hi all, I'm seeing replies, but I'm not sure if any are aimed at my question? I think not?

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                                    • rsachocR rsachoc

                                      Hi all, I'm seeing replies, but I'm not sure if any are aimed at my question? I think not?

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                                      m26872
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #225

                                      @rsachoc
                                      I've started a new thread aimed at your question. I'll soon delete much of the content in the post you based your question on and refer to the new thread instead.

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                                        meddie
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                                        #226

                                        it would be nice when a atsha204 a an a flash rom where placed to pcb for signing and ota

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                                        • M meddie

                                          it would be nice when a atsha204 a an a flash rom where placed to pcb for signing and ota

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                                          m26872
                                          Hardware Contributor
                                          wrote on last edited by m26872
                                          #227

                                          @meddie I don't use any of it myself yet, but I know it's only a matter of time until they'll be needed. I think a add-on board to all already existing nodes would be my personal priority then, but new users would prefer it on-board of course and only populate if needed. I'll put on my not yet posted future requests list. (I remember top-side labels are also wanted.) A thing to remember though, is that my Slim Node design is a concept was a lean and simplicity concept, without preparations for maximum flexibility etc.

                                          As I've said earlier - if anyone like to do their own Slim Node design, you're very welcome. And if you share it, it's even better.

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