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My Slim 2AA Battery Node

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  • rollercontainerR Offline
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    rollercontainer
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    #319

    Thx, Gert. Are you using 1.5 or 2.0.0beta?

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    • rollercontainerR rollercontainer

      Thx, Gert. Are you using 1.5 or 2.0.0beta?

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      Hardware Contributor
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      @rollercontainer
      I use the 2.0 beta

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        Bought another 2 radios from different dealers. The one with the blob on the die is going down to 2mA, but isnt working at all (node does not come up). The next one is working, but again 15mA. This is frustrating. Anyone here with a good source for radio modules?

        Even with a stripped down sketch without any sensors with only delay and sleep in the loop, the current stays the same.

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        • rollercontainerR rollercontainer

          Bought another 2 radios from different dealers. The one with the blob on the die is going down to 2mA, but isnt working at all (node does not come up). The next one is working, but again 15mA. This is frustrating. Anyone here with a good source for radio modules?

          Even with a stripped down sketch without any sensors with only delay and sleep in the loop, the current stays the same.

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          GertSanders
          Hardware Contributor
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          #322

          @rollercontainer
          I get my radio's from an Aliexpress store called AAA+ (or something with a lot of A's in the name).

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            @26872, It's my first post here and I had to register so that I could give you my regards for your work and for sharing it with us! Just ordered a batch of your v2 boards.

            I have similar design sensors running on proto-pcbs, but your ready-made pcb makes everything much more convenient.

            Just had a question on stability of running regular Arduino 8mhz internal clock bootloader for prolonged time. Anyone tried this and had success running the 328 down to 2v (or so) @ 8mhz? If this is a doomed idea, I will have to attach the boost circuit to this design, but it would be nice to avoid all that parasite current consumption.

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            • BobcatB Bobcat

              @26872, It's my first post here and I had to register so that I could give you my regards for your work and for sharing it with us! Just ordered a batch of your v2 boards.

              I have similar design sensors running on proto-pcbs, but your ready-made pcb makes everything much more convenient.

              Just had a question on stability of running regular Arduino 8mhz internal clock bootloader for prolonged time. Anyone tried this and had success running the 328 down to 2v (or so) @ 8mhz? If this is a doomed idea, I will have to attach the boost circuit to this design, but it would be nice to avoid all that parasite current consumption.

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              #324

              @Bobcat
              I have had an atmega328 run down to 1V6 at 8Mhz before failing completely, so working down to 2V should be OK. The nrf24 will likely stop around that point as well (lower limit is 1V9 for that chip).

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              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                @Bobcat
                I have had an atmega328 run down to 1V6 at 8Mhz before failing completely, so working down to 2V should be OK. The nrf24 will likely stop around that point as well (lower limit is 1V9 for that chip).

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                @GertSanders
                Thank you for the reply! Was the atmega doing some clock critical tasks when it went below 2v? I am thinking to attach BME280 (Pressure/Temp/Hum) which also operates in the same voltage range, but not sure if the I2C will be working properly when atmega goes overclocked.

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                • BobcatB Bobcat

                  @GertSanders
                  Thank you for the reply! Was the atmega doing some clock critical tasks when it went below 2v? I am thinking to attach BME280 (Pressure/Temp/Hum) which also operates in the same voltage range, but not sure if the I2C will be working properly when atmega goes overclocked.

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                  @Bobcat
                  The nice thing about I2C is that the clock is generated by the atmega328 (the master), so even if this clock slows down due to low voltage (this happens a little when using the internal oscillator), the I2C devices on that bus just follow.
                  We can also use SI7021 (temperature and humidity sensor) at these low voltages for the same reason.

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                  • badmannenB Offline
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                    #327

                    Hello all

                    I´m Henrik, first post here and sort of beginner at this ( use to do some embedded stuff some 15 years ago and picked it up again recently )

                    I just did a shopping list for this project, Version 2.0 if I got it correct =)
                    here it is: http://my.aliexpress.com/wishlist/shared.htm?groupId=3106453469
                    As an example it should be about 20 euros if you buy to be able to make 5 whole sets.

                    I added 3 additional and optional things to the original BOM:
                    battery holder + battery connector to make it easier to change them ( I think )
                    straight pins

                    I did this for people searching for the components needed that does not have any or very few before starting the project.

                    Only thing extra needed I think would be some additional cable and a arduino UNO or some other way to program the single chips. But I assume you already have a UNO if you read this :)
                    And a soldering iron and that stuff.

                    (if even one person found this useful I guess it fulfilled its purpose)

                    //Henrik

                    rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                      #328

                      can someone tell me if I can find Version 2 on the new site: http://dangerousprototypes.com/store/pcbs
                      ?

                      I never ordered any pcb´s like this before so I don´t want to get it wrong =D.
                      If the models are not there to choose from unlike the old website, what file do I need to upload to have them print the board?

                      thanks for any help

                      rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                      • badmannenB badmannen

                        can someone tell me if I can find Version 2 on the new site: http://dangerousprototypes.com/store/pcbs
                        ?

                        I never ordered any pcb´s like this before so I don´t want to get it wrong =D.
                        If the models are not there to choose from unlike the old website, what file do I need to upload to have them print the board?

                        thanks for any help

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                        hek
                        Admin
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                        @badmannen

                        @m26872 has prepared for ordering this board directly on openhardware.io. Easy and you give something back to him.

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                          Received mine from DirtyPCBs - I just wanted to test the whole system. I guess my first question is: how do you guys break them apart? Since tthey come in 3-circuits-per-board with little holes.
                          I don't want to ruin them! :)

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                          • hugowsH hugows

                            Received mine from DirtyPCBs - I just wanted to test the whole system. I guess my first question is: how do you guys break them apart? Since tthey come in 3-circuits-per-board with little holes.
                            I don't want to ruin them! :)

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                            #331

                            @hugows
                            https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2067/my-slim-2aa-battery-node/273

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                              #332

                              Thanks, it worked!
                              Sorry that I couldn't find the post you linked..

                              alt text

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                                #333

                                Are there any guides on how to assemble the 2.0 version?
                                How should I, as I beginner, find this out?
                                I know about the schematics and the BOM, but, for example, I could only find R1, C1, C2 and C3 marked. The schematics shows C4 and C5, just an example - how do I find where those go?

                                Thanks in advance,
                                hugo

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                                • hugowsH hugows

                                  Are there any guides on how to assemble the 2.0 version?
                                  How should I, as I beginner, find this out?
                                  I know about the schematics and the BOM, but, for example, I could only find R1, C1, C2 and C3 marked. The schematics shows C4 and C5, just an example - how do I find where those go?

                                  Thanks in advance,
                                  hugo

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                                  #334

                                  @hugows C4 goes over the ground and VCC of the NRF radio. I'm not sure about but C5, from some pictures I have seen I think it goes in the same place as C4 but I may be wrong. I have left that out without an issue.

                                  OP - this board is great! it take the pain out of soldering the radio to a pro mini / nano. I really like these.

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                                  • thazlett144T thazlett144

                                    @hugows C4 goes over the ground and VCC of the NRF radio. I'm not sure about but C5, from some pictures I have seen I think it goes in the same place as C4 but I may be wrong. I have left that out without an issue.

                                    OP - this board is great! it take the pain out of soldering the radio to a pro mini / nano. I really like these.

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                                    hugows
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                                    #335

                                    @thazlett144 Thanks. like this then?

                                    alt text

                                    One more thing: can I mount R1, C1, C2, C3 on the bottom side? My "height requirements" aren't as strict, since my cable duct is almost 2cm tall.

                                    --

                                    To check, I will be soldering this 8 components in this order:

                                    • R1
                                    • C1
                                    • C2
                                    • C3
                                    • C4 electrolitic (then bend it)
                                    • Atmega socket
                                    • NRF24 radio
                                    • 6 pin angled connector
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                                      #336

                                      C4 in your picture looks correct to me. You could put C4 up on the edge under where the radio would be as well. You have VCC up on the edge. I think the pins adjacent to that are ground too. EDIT: I think I replied before you edited your picture :-)

                                      You can solder the components underneath if you need to yes. I don't see why that would be an issue.

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                                        m26872
                                        Hardware Contributor
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                                        #337

                                        I'll add the C4 and C5 ref-silk to the list of requests for improvements.

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                                        • m26872M m26872

                                          I'll add the C4 and C5 ref-silk to the list of requests for improvements.

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                                          hugows
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                                          #338

                                          @m26872 C5 would be in paralllel to C4, right?
                                          Also, those are the capacitors for improving the radio transmission, correct?

                                          Thanks for this awesome board, @m26872!

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