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Hacking a Neato Robotics BotVac Connected

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  • hekH hek

    There is nothing wrong with its cleaning abilities. Impressed by their room scanning algorithm.

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    m26872
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    #11

    @hek I'm surprised you didn't research for maximum open source/HA support in first time. Suppose it's to late to change it now? Even if it's easy to hack this one, I think it's a good general principle - to a certain price of course.

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      hek
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      #12

      Yeah, yeah.. usually good at doing research.. But this one was a black friday find... Didn't have time to do my homework.. :/ Have to pay for that now ....

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      • hekH hek

        Yeah, yeah.. usually good at doing research.. But this one was a black friday find... Didn't have time to do my homework.. :/ Have to pay for that now ....

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        #13

        @hek ... but you'll also have more fun. 😉

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          #14

          @hek

          I am now looking at the files you provided. I can't get some logic out of it.

          You gave some service endpoints and then you pointed to the java file. I don't see the link between these two.

          Sorry for my noob questions i'm not an programmer.

          I am only looking for a why to implement the Neato in my domoticz home automation. But google gives very little help. Only desent hit was this link.

          Greetings.

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            wrote on last edited by kalle
            #15

            Maybe this will help:

            https://www.neatorobotics.com/resources/programmersmanual_20140305.pdf

            https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/hbrobotics/zKz_33SD7ys/NSV1gjhiIj4J

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              #16

              @Kalle ... I think this isn't for the Neato Botvac Connected. It has a USB port, but we want to control it through the wifi connection it has.

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                #17

                I agree that the wifi api seems more natural, but connecting an Arduino to the usb port might prove easier since documentation of the usb api is available.

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                  #18

                  It seems (from a quick glance) that you need a USB host device, connected to that USB port.. So that would leave a standard arduino out of the question.

                  Perhaps an raspberry, or another higher end platform running an OS, could be used..

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                  • K kalle

                    Maybe this will help:

                    https://www.neatorobotics.com/resources/programmersmanual_20140305.pdf

                    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/hbrobotics/zKz_33SD7ys/NSV1gjhiIj4J

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                    #19

                    @kalle Chances are that the commands & format are identical for the newer wifi model -- companies tend not to reinvent the wheel for each product ;-)
                    You'd only have to find out how these commands are transfered to the BotVac.

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                      What I have come up with so far is that the Neato it self is running a websocket server on port 8081 - and uses some kind of standard Auth-behavior in the headers,

                      Hypertext Transfer Protocol
                      GET /drive HTTP/1.1\r\n
                      Host: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8081\r\n
                      Sec-WebSocket-Key: XXXXXXX==\r\n
                      Sec-WebSocket-Version: 13\r\n
                      Upgrade: websocket\r\n
                      Origin: ws://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8081/drive\r\n
                      Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:17:57 GMT\r\n
                      Authorization: NEATOAPP XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX\r\n
                      Connection: Upgrade\r\n
                      \r\n
                      [Full request URI: http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8081/drive]
                      [HTTP request 1/1]

                      There also a port 8080 open but I can not figure out what's running on that one.

                      The communication between the Neato and the central server is handled via a server on Amazon - this traffis is HTTPS though. Next step is to set up a SSLSplit and hope that they don't have a pinned cert.

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                        hek
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                        #21

                        Nice find @Daniel-Eriksson,

                        Do we really need to know what's happening between the Neato <-> Cloud?
                        My initial though was to mimic the app to poll status and send commands via the cloud service.

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                          Daniel Eriksson
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                          If we can figure out what's going on between Cloud <-> Neato we can do a version which is in depended on the Cloud-service being online or not - which also means that we can disallow it internet access

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                            #23

                            That sounds like music to my ears. It is my device not Neato's

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                            • Daniel ErikssonD Daniel Eriksson

                              If we can figure out what's going on between Cloud <-> Neato we can do a version which is in depended on the Cloud-service being online or not - which also means that we can disallow it internet access

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                              hek
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                              @Daniel-Eriksson said:

                              If we can figure out what's going on between Cloud <-> Neato we can do a version which is in depended on the Cloud-service being online or not - which also means that we can disallow it internet access

                              :thumbsup:

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                                I recently ventured into writing some custom scripts both for my cloud connected home security system as well as my music streamer at home. It was quite easy to retrieve the commands needed from my android phone using an app I found called "Packet Capture" by the author Grey Shirts. Even https communication could be found. Perhaps this could be a way forward? Following this thread since I am considering getting a Botvac connected but failing to see the point if I would be dependent on a specific app on specific hardware..

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                                  hek
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                                  This won't be solved until I see a proper curl call ;)

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                                    #27

                                    I have installed the Packet Capture app. But this isn't working I think.

                                    When starting the capture, the app makes a VPN connection. This VPN is blocking some traffic for the Neato App because my bot doesn't come only in the app. When I shut the VPN connection the bot comes online after 3 seconds.

                                    Going back to the capture I think we miss some vital information because of this block.

                                    This is what I got so far form the app:

                                    <--- (TEXT)
                                    GET /sessions/check HTTP/1.1
                                    Authorization: Token token=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                    Accept: application/vnd.neato.beehive.v1+json
                                    Content-type: application/json
                                    X-Agent: android-22|SM-G928F|samsung|1.0.0|134
                                    User-Agent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 5.1.1; SM-G928F Build/LMY47X)
                                    Host: beehive.neatocloud.com
                                    Connection: Keep-Alive
                                    Accept-Encoding: gzip

                                    ---> (TEXT)
                                    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
                                    Server: Cowboy
                                    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 00:32:03 GMT
                                    Connection: keep-alive
                                    X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
                                    X-Xss-Protection: 1; mode=block
                                    X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
                                    Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8
                                    Etag: W/"a3cdd45ce712890397436cafca38e79a"
                                    Cache-Control: max-age=0, private, must-revalidate
                                    X-Request-Id: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                    X-Runtime: 0.022752
                                    Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=31536000
                                    Content-Length: 39
                                    Via: 1.1 vegur

                                    ---> (JSON)
                                    {"current_time":"2015-12-30T00:32:04Z"}

                                    <--- (TEXT)
                                    GET /dashboard HTTP/1.1
                                    Authorization: Token token=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                    Accept: application/vnd.neato.beehive.v1+json
                                    Content-type: application/json
                                    X-Agent: android-22|SM-G928F|samsung|1.0.0|134
                                    User-Agent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 5.1.1; SM-G928F Build/LMY47X)
                                    Host: beehive.neatocloud.com
                                    Connection: Keep-Alive
                                    Accept-Encoding: gzip

                                    ---> (TEXT)
                                    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
                                    Server: Cowboy
                                    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 00:32:03 GMT
                                    Connection: keep-alive
                                    X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
                                    X-Xss-Protection: 1; mode=block
                                    X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
                                    Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8
                                    Etag: W/"c390b2a69fb7b4a405c8637e86ff321a"
                                    Cache-Control: max-age=0, private, must-revalidate
                                    X-Request-Id: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                    X-Runtime: 0.014884
                                    Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=31536000
                                    Content-Length: 1337
                                    Via: 1.1 vegur

                                    ---> (JSON)
                                    {
                                    "email":"xxxxx@xxxxx.nl",
                                    "first_name":"xxxx",
                                    "last_name":"xxxxxx",
                                    "locale":"nl",
                                    "newsletter":false,
                                    "created_at":"2014-06-23T16:39:45Z",
                                    "verified_at":"2015-05-25T13:19:08Z",
                                    "robots": [
                                    {
                                    "serial":"xxxxxxxxxx",
                                    "prefix":"SN",
                                    "name":"xxxxxx",
                                    "model":"BotVacConnected",
                                    "secret_key":"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx",
                                    "purchased_at":"2015-12-22T00:00:00Z",
                                    "proof_of_purchase_url":"https://neatorobotics.s3.amazonaws.com/proof_of_purchases/xxxxxxxxxx/ProofOfPurchase.jpg",
                                    "proof_of_purchase_generated_at":"2015-12-23T18:31:21Z",
                                    "mac_address":"xxxxxxxxx",
                                    "firmware":"2.0.0",
                                    "created_at":"2015-11-11T20:10:38Z",
                                    "linked_at":"2015-12-23T17:23:55Z"
                                    }
                                    ],
                                    "recent_firmwares":{}

                                    }

                                    xxxxxxxxx = personal data

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                                      Yveaux
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #28

                                      Have a look here guys. This discussion seems and attempt to control the same vacuum cleaner.

                                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                        hek
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                                        #29

                                        Hmm.. my german isn't great.. Have they found out something useful?

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                                          #30

                                          I can read it a little bit but I think there isn't any usable information in that topic. Its more a overall discussion on the Botvac.

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