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๐Ÿ’ฌ Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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    BastienVH
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    #21

    I would share the link to my upload, but I don't want to get in the way of sundberg.
    I think it's better for sundberg to share his link in the top post and donate whatever he makes to the mysensors project (like he said).
    If you can't wait, I'll PM you the link and donate the $1 to mysensors, but it feels wrond to take money (even if I'm giving it away straight afterwards) for something I didn't create myself...

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      #22

      @sundberg84, @BastienVH Thanks for your reply

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        sundberg84
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        #23

        For those who are feeling lucky: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=16244&accesskey=14b044f08e0126cb42a9dd9522c568e6
        This is my revision 8 and should work just fine but is untested.

        0_1453581853442_1.JPG

        Still no reply from them about my Rev7 upload - and im not expecting it during the weekend so.

        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          dark-nico
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          #24

          Nice job thank you!
          This pcb is exactly what I needed to quickly assemble little sensors.
          I was waiting for your v7 upload, but I'm feeling pretty lucky about v8.
          What the mains differences beside making more room for the nrf24 ?

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            sundberg84
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            #25

            @dark-nico The nrf24 doesnt go outside the PCB so much, and therefore its smaller. But because of that i had to move the 5 to 3.3volt regulator. Nothing else should be different.

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • sundberg84S sundberg84

              @dark-nico The nrf24 doesnt go outside the PCB so much, and therefore its smaller. But because of that i had to move the 5 to 3.3volt regulator. Nothing else should be different.

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              dark-nico
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              #26

              @sundberg84 Thanks for the quick reply.
              I've ordered a protopack, I'll let you know when I receive/test it.

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                lxz
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                #27

                I also just ordered the rev8 board.
                Thanks for sharing, will post my results asap!

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                  Looks like chinese new year is coming. On Dirtypcbs site: NEW ORDERS SHIP AFTER FEB. 16TH! IT IS SPRING FESTIVAL, CHINA IS CLOSED. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS, IT IS THE BIGGEST COUNTRY AND ECONOMY IN THE WORLD, THEY MAKE ALLZ YOUR STUFFS! WE WILL NOT ANSWER ANY EMAILS ABOUT ORDERS PLACED IN THIS PERIOD! NO EXCEPTIONS, NO EMERGENCIES, NO NOTHING. A BIG NOTHING BURGER. GOT IT?!?!

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                    Alexander
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                    #29

                    @sundberg84 thanks for the nice design!
                    I was not really aware of 'official' and 'unofficial' version (and version at all..) so just after the post of ar91 I followed the link to dirtypcbs and ordered 10 Rev6 boards. I will share my experiences here as soon as they arrive and see if it is worth while to order the rev8's. I like it that it is even smaller withour loosing functionality.

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                      BastienVH
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                      @sundberg84
                      Hey, I've been trying to get my boards to work, but without succes so far.
                      They are revision 7 and have mounted 2 boards with a pro mini and the radio but they're not working.
                      For the second one I actually checked both the arduino and radio beforehand to see if they functional, which they were.
                      Now with them mounted, I still get the "radio init fail" message in the arduino serial monitor.
                      The first board, I mounted with the cap, the second one not yet (I ran out of solder wire).

                      Any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
                      Should I upload some pictures so you can check the solderjob?

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                        sundberg84
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #31

                        Hi @BastienVH

                        Do you use 3.3 or 5v arduino?
                        How do you power it?
                        Did you solder the pinheader / jumper?

                        I have rev7 myself, and those works great for me.

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          BastienVH
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                          #32

                          I have a 3.3v arduino.
                          At the moment it's powered the FTDI232 connected to my computer.
                          I will transfer to battery once I'm done.
                          Do you mean the "BAT" / "REG"?
                          I haven't soldered that. I'm guessing that's necessary?

                          Also, while I have you hear ;-) , if I want to use the battery measuring, do I have to add the 0.1uF capacitor?
                          What advantage does it provide?

                          Thanks for your help!

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                            sundberg84
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                            wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                            #33

                            If you use the FTDI connector, make sure its the 3.3v and connect it to Gnd/Pwr on the PCB and not Arduino FDTI connector.
                            You could just exclude those pins and connect a battery directly and use that as power and the FDTI as programmer/serial debug only

                            Bat or Reg is nessecary!
                            See this picture for battery use: https://www.openhardware.io/view/4/EasyNewbie-PCB-for-MySensors
                            https://www.openhardware.io/uploads/568ed84b60aa3f8965fbf095/image/3.jpg
                            All components in the image is needed (except battery measurment).
                            If you dont want to use booster you need to bypass that one with a wire/jumper (or set the jumper on REG instead of BAT but that kills the logic).

                            The battery doesnt "need" the 0,1uF but see here:https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery
                            "The tap point could be bypassed with a 0.1 uF capacitor to keep the noise level low, at this otherwise high impedance point. "

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            • sundberg84S sundberg84

                              If you use the FTDI connector, make sure its the 3.3v and connect it to Gnd/Pwr on the PCB and not Arduino FDTI connector.
                              You could just exclude those pins and connect a battery directly and use that as power and the FDTI as programmer/serial debug only

                              Bat or Reg is nessecary!
                              See this picture for battery use: https://www.openhardware.io/view/4/EasyNewbie-PCB-for-MySensors
                              https://www.openhardware.io/uploads/568ed84b60aa3f8965fbf095/image/3.jpg
                              All components in the image is needed (except battery measurment).
                              If you dont want to use booster you need to bypass that one with a wire/jumper (or set the jumper on REG instead of BAT but that kills the logic).

                              The battery doesnt "need" the 0,1uF but see here:https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery
                              "The tap point could be bypassed with a 0.1 uF capacitor to keep the noise level low, at this otherwise high impedance point. "

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                              BastienVH
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #34

                              @sundberg84
                              Thanks for the explanation!
                              I think I've got it now.
                              Will test and get back with the results when I've gotten my hands on some more solder wire!

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                                Anticimex
                                Contest Winner
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                                #35

                                Hi,
                                I see you use CERN OHL but I do not find the required files.
                                Where do you store those?
                                According to the CERN OHL 1.2 howto, you need to provide the following documentation with your project:
                                LICENSE.PDF
                                cern_ohl_v_1_2_howto.pdf
                                PRODUCT.TXT
                                CHANGES.TXT

                                Please check the howto closely for how to use the license, or pick another license. If it is not used according to spec, others don't need to follow it either since it is invalid, so you won't be "protected" by it.

                                Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                • B BastienVH

                                  @sundberg84
                                  Thanks for the explanation!
                                  I think I've got it now.
                                  Will test and get back with the results when I've gotten my hands on some more solder wire!

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                                  BastienVH
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                                  #36

                                  @BastienVH
                                  Replying to myself to follow up on my assembly-issues.
                                  I have been able to get the board to work.
                                  I don't have my 0.1ยตF caps yet, so I just put a little blob of solder in the holes so the current could run through.
                                  Now I've got myself 2 working board. I just have to find a good way to attach my PIR, dallas temp, ... to them.

                                  Thanks for the work and help!

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                                    ErrK
                                    Plugin Developer
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                                    #37

                                    I'am now finnish with my first rev7 node.
                                    It is a Arduino 5V with DHT-22 and a HC-SR501 sensor.
                                    1_1454528676795_IMG_6223 copy.jpg
                                    0_1454528676794_IMG_6224 copy.jpg

                                    Good work @sundberg84 for the PCB

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                                      sundberg84
                                      Hardware Contributor
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                                      #38

                                      @BastienVH Good to hear - its not essential to have to 0.1uF cap on the voltage retulator, it will work without but its good to keep noice out.
                                      @ErrK Nice, I see you run through RAW pin and using the internal voltage regulator on the arduino - I have not tested that much, does it work ok?

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                        @BastienVH Good to hear - its not essential to have to 0.1uF cap on the voltage retulator, it will work without but its good to keep noice out.
                                        @ErrK Nice, I see you run through RAW pin and using the internal voltage regulator on the arduino - I have not tested that much, does it work ok?

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                                        BastienVH
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                                        #39

                                        @sundberg84
                                        When I get the caps, I'll place them on the board.
                                        I did notice alot of noise when I was reading battery state on a breadboard in an earlier build, so I will get that sorted.
                                        Only problem is I can't find them locally, so have to get them from China.
                                        Will take a while...

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                                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                          @BastienVH Good to hear - its not essential to have to 0.1uF cap on the voltage retulator, it will work without but its good to keep noice out.
                                          @ErrK Nice, I see you run through RAW pin and using the internal voltage regulator on the arduino - I have not tested that much, does it work ok?

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                                          ErrK
                                          Plugin Developer
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                                          @sundberg84 yes it's working good. But the problem is that it's eating up the batteries :)
                                          It was up for only 15days.

                                          I will now test with a arduino that i have removed the led and volt regulator.

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