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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • sundberg84S Offline
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    sundberg84
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    wrote on last edited by
    #41

    Sounds good @ErrK - dont forget to power it through REG and not RAW on the PCB and add a jumper on REG since it wont work if you use the same setup as in the images and remove voltage regulator.

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      Sounds good @ErrK - dont forget to power it through REG and not RAW on the PCB and add a jumper on REG since it wont work if you use the same setup as in the images and remove voltage regulator.

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      ErrK
      Plugin Developer
      wrote on last edited by
      #42

      Thank you @sundberg84. I will think of that.

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      • BarnaB Offline
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        Barna
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        #43

        Hi,
        Why have you redesigned from rev7 to rev8?
        When will the rev8 be tested ?

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        • sundberg84S Offline
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          sundberg84
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          #44

          @Barna - I just wanted to make it smaller, with the radio not sticking out so much.
          I ordered them a while ago, so if they made it out of china before their new year I think it will be tested soon.

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • dark-nicoD Offline
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            dark-nico
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            #45

            Just received Rev 8 :

            alt text

            I'll test it asap :smiley:

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            • sundberg84S Offline
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              wrote on last edited by sundberg84
              #46

              Nice. @dark-nico
              The main concern is the new placement of caps and voltage divider - I hope they fit in between the radio and screw terminal. Should not be a problem - but you know, always nice to see it IRL. Might be good to solder them first before radio, arduino and screw terminal.

              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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              • dark-nicoD Offline
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                #47

                Ok, I'll do that.
                My main problem is that I haven't received both my booster and my 5->3.3 reg. :disappointed:
                So I can test Batt version by bypassing the booster, but it will not tell us if the reg placement is ok.
                I'll dig in my "donor harware" if I can find a reg.

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                • dark-nicoD Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #48

                  Looks good!

                  alt text

                  and works fine!

                  Perfect, thanks again :thumbsup:

                  I'll test the batt version as soon as I receive the boosters.

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                  • sundberg84S Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                    #49

                    @dark-nico - You know its easy to cut the PCB to make it smaller? Using it as 5v you can remove the right battery part:

                    Either cut with a knife and brake:
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiC-_g3iNb8

                    Or sometimes i just use a saw (before components are added) - might not be recommended ;)

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                      @dark-nico - You know its easy to cut the PCB to make it smaller? Using it as 5v you can remove the right battery part:

                      Either cut with a knife and brake:
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiC-_g3iNb8

                      Or sometimes i just use a saw (before components are added) - might not be recommended ;)

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                      #50

                      @sundberg84 - Yes I know that I can cut that part, but I think this one will be my test board with all this option, including the battery parts.
                      However I'll keep the video method in mind, I was thinking about using a dremel, but, it seems cleaner.

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                      • sundberg84S Offline
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                        sundberg84
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                        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                        #51

                        @dark-nico Ok, have not tested adding both Bat and reg/5v posibilities at the same time. Might be that 5v travels backwards towards the booster... try it out, but as I said, not tested.

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          DutchMurk
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                          #52

                          @sundberg84 : I have also received the rev 7 from DirtyPCB and learned how to solder. Very nice and flexible design !
                          0_1455455160676_20160214_133450.jpg
                          Perfect for a Newbie :). Thnaks a lot for sharing

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                          • sundberg84S Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                            #53

                            Hi!
                            No problems! Makes me glad to see i made something usefull for others :)
                            Interesting setup you got the with the HLK as power :+1:

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                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              dakipro
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                              #54

                              Great design and project, thank you for sharing it. I really like the rev8 approach in reducing overall size as it will fitt much better in my boxes.
                              Is it possible to get rev8 files needed to order PCBs from some other places?
                              Keep up the good work!

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                                #55

                                @dakipro If you "download all project files" @ https://www.openhardware.io/you will get all files (Eagles, Gerber (run with Iteads CAM job) and other stuff).

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
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                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  chuckconnors
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                                  #56

                                  Please excuse the questions, but you did say this is for Newbies, right? :)

                                  I'm planning on using this with the 3.3v Arduino with battery power once things are debugged. I see above that you say to power from the battery input rather than the FTDI pins. Is that for 5V and 3.3V? Also, what is the resistor labeled D3 Res Temp/Hum used for?

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                                    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                    #57

                                    Hi! @chuckconnors

                                    You should input power/gnd to the 5v/GND on the PCB and not the ftdi connector on the arduino you have soldered on the pcb. See the images above. This is how the board is designed. It doesnt matter if its 3.3 or 5v.
                                    The resistor is for if you want to use for example a dallas temp or dht22 on pin 3, then you can add a resistor there since these sensors require this.

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                      Hi! @chuckconnors

                                      You should input power/gnd to the 5v/GND on the PCB and not the ftdi connector on the arduino you have soldered on the pcb. See the images above. This is how the board is designed. It doesnt matter if its 3.3 or 5v.
                                      The resistor is for if you want to use for example a dallas temp or dht22 on pin 3, then you can add a resistor there since these sensors require this.

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                                      chuckconnors
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #58

                                      @sundberg84 Thanks for the reply. Please forgive my ignorance, but can you explain what happens if you connect power via the FTDI pins? Wouldn't it still power the chip and radio?

                                      Should I supply the 5V/GND from the FTDI interface to the VCC/GND pads on the bottom left side of the board?

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                                        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                        #59

                                        @chuckconnors well it depends on your setup. It can be done with powering through fdti but it's easier to just not recommend it. For example 3.3v with a booster /bat setup powering through vcc on arduino will not power the radio.

                                        That works great. You can connect the fdti to the arduino but extend vcc and gnd with wired to the pcb. To power everything run these cables to the pads in the middle and top of the pcb.

                                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                          chuckconnors
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                                          #60

                                          @sundberg84 Thanks for the clarification. I took a look at the board images and I see what you mean. Forgive me again for trying your patience, but could you be so kind as to tell me what the minimum required components are for using this board with a 3.3V Arduino?

                                          Currently I'm only using the Arduino, radio, radio capacitor, power supply (battery or 5V ), and whatever sensors required for that node. This worked out well using the standard hookups as the radio was being powered by the Arduino and the radio is guaranteed the correct voltage via the built in regular on the Arduino, but as you've mentioned this isn't an option with your board. Do I need to include the battery caps and regulator? Again, I'm a novice and I can follow the traces on the top side of the board using the silkscreen labels as a guide but it's a bit harder to follow on the unlabeled bottom side. Do most of you guys use the 5V Arduino?

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