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  • alexsh1A Offline
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    alexsh1
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    #9

    @AWI I looked at your artwork some time ago, but decided to go for this node in terms of size and functionality.

    As I said before, the plan is to have Sensorbender and this transceiver in a low power node

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    • alexsh1A alexsh1

      @AWI I looked at your artwork some time ago, but decided to go for this node in terms of size and functionality.

      As I said before, the plan is to have Sensorbender and this transceiver in a low power node

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      AWI
      Hero Member
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      #10

      @alexsh1 mounting the SMD version of the radio with wires on the Sensebender would really make it small
      0_1454831179733_upload-9fcfabd2-2440-4000-a341-f0ace9eda6c7 0_1454831627490_upload-e8426af7-08ba-4aa1-85db-6e94edeb91ce

      From browsing OSH Park, I believe @GertSanders is experimenting with the SMD radio also (sorry Gert for lifting the lid) ;-)

      0_1454831782226_upload-57a23984-9dc4-43cb-b943-4516dd2720bc

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        #11

        @AWI Thanks - really great to know that @GertSanders has been already working on a SMD version.

        I found another interesting adapter for 1.27mm nrf24l01+

        https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/CtW4Xaow

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          wrote on last edited by alexsh1
          #12

          By the way @GertSanders , is your SMD board similar to @m26872 one (http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2067/my-slim-2aa-battery-node)?

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          • ahmedadelhosniA Offline
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            #13

            Propably no difference. I have asked about it a week ago http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2984/nrf24l01-mini-vs-normal-size-module

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              #14

              @AWI No problem, this board is making its way to me via the mail now (was shipped from OSH Park last wednesday).

              I'm hoping to test it coming week.

              This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches. So pull-up resistors and connection for two contacts (normally closed) is provided (on the pins that allow hardware wake up from power down), and nothing else. No crystal, just minimal power decoupling and a led. No FTDI adapter or ISP. And of course only connection for the SMD version of the NRF24.

              0_1454851622651_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.22.03.png

              0_1454851679505_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.21.41.png

              While that was being made at OSH Park I prepared a second design, but this one is still in movement (not ordered yet), measurements are in mm:

              0_1454852947623_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.47.56.png

              It is certainly not a Sensebender, as it lacks ATSHA204A, SI7021 and SPIFlash, but it does have FTDI interface and optional pull-ups on D2 and D3. It is my first try at SMD, with 0805 size components (I need to be able to hand solder them).

              The objective is to make a working sensor board as flat as possible. At the moment is is even smaller then the CR2032 batteryholder I was planning to use. A possibility is that I go for a two board approach using this "flat node" and a second board to hold a CR1632 (a holder for this smaller battery is in the image above, Keystone Technologies model 3013).

              To be continued ...

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              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                @AWI No problem, this board is making its way to me via the mail now (was shipped from OSH Park last wednesday).

                I'm hoping to test it coming week.

                This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches. So pull-up resistors and connection for two contacts (normally closed) is provided (on the pins that allow hardware wake up from power down), and nothing else. No crystal, just minimal power decoupling and a led. No FTDI adapter or ISP. And of course only connection for the SMD version of the NRF24.

                0_1454851622651_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.22.03.png

                0_1454851679505_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.21.41.png

                While that was being made at OSH Park I prepared a second design, but this one is still in movement (not ordered yet), measurements are in mm:

                0_1454852947623_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.47.56.png

                It is certainly not a Sensebender, as it lacks ATSHA204A, SI7021 and SPIFlash, but it does have FTDI interface and optional pull-ups on D2 and D3. It is my first try at SMD, with 0805 size components (I need to be able to hand solder them).

                The objective is to make a working sensor board as flat as possible. At the moment is is even smaller then the CR2032 batteryholder I was planning to use. A possibility is that I go for a two board approach using this "flat node" and a second board to hold a CR1632 (a holder for this smaller battery is in the image above, Keystone Technologies model 3013).

                To be continued ...

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                wrote on last edited by
                #15

                @GertSanders said:

                This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches.

                This is what I was looking for as I need a small board for a reed switch. Please keep us posted about your testing

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                  meddie
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                  #16

                  i like the first layou. Its just pretty narrow. ideal for housing in a cable duct. if there will be an atsha204, a flash modul and a battery sensor this would be the perfect node.

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                    #17

                    Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

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                      #18

                      @alexsh1 those pliers seem to be the wrong size.... :smirk:

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                        #19

                        @Yveaux yeah, I know - I placed an order today for a new set of cutters on Amazon

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                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                          Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

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                          AWI
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #20

                          @alexsh1 don't mount it in the wrong direction...

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                          • AWIA AWI

                            @alexsh1 don't mount it in the wrong direction...

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                            #21

                            @AWI you mean nrf24l01+? I have to check what the best fit is given I'll have a few wires

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                            • alexsh1A alexsh1

                              @AWI you mean nrf24l01+? I have to check what the best fit is given I'll have a few wires

                              AWIA Offline
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                              AWI
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #22

                              @alexsh1 this is what I did. Mount it in the same direction as the original

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                              • YveauxY Yveaux

                                @alexsh1 those pliers seem to be the wrong size.... :smirk:

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                                @Yveaux are these much better now? ;)))

                                0_1455024726133_image.jpeg

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                                • AWIA AWI

                                  @alexsh1 this is what I did. Mount it in the same direction as the original

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #24

                                  @AWI Now I see what you mean! Thanks for heads up - really appreciated it. This is the first time I'm dealing with this transceiver in SMD

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                                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                    @Yveaux are these much better now? ;)))

                                    0_1455024726133_image.jpeg

                                    YveauxY Offline
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                                    Yveaux
                                    Mod
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #25

                                    @alexsh1 much less of a challenge :satisfied:

                                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                      @GertSanders said:

                                      This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches.

                                      This is what I was looking for as I need a small board for a reed switch. Please keep us posted about your testing

                                      GertSandersG Offline
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                                      GertSanders
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #26

                                      @alexsh1 My very narrow board was built and tested today. It works fine, I posted info on the hardware forum.

                                      I must say I feel pity for this sliver of plastic and metal ...

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                                      • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                        @alexsh1 My very narrow board was built and tested today. It works fine, I posted info on the hardware forum.

                                        I must say I feel pity for this sliver of plastic and metal ...

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        @GertSanders said:

                                        @alexsh1 My very narrow board was built and tested today. It works fine, I posted info on the hardware forum.

                                        I must say I feel pity for this sliver of plastic and metal ...

                                        Excellent! I ordered your narrow board a few days ago as I thought it would be very useful.

                                        One thing I can tell for sure - cutters are really well built. They are made in Japan and electrostatic safe. Most important they are not big as the ones I had before.

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                                          #28

                                          ordered the pro mini shields and I'm not disappointed :) As small as you can get:




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