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  • alexsh1A
    alexsh1A
    alexsh1
    wrote on last edited by alexsh1
    #12

    By the way @GertSanders , is your SMD board similar to @m26872 one (http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2067/my-slim-2aa-battery-node)?

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    • ahmedadelhosniA
      ahmedadelhosniA
      ahmedadelhosni
      wrote on last edited by
      #13

      Propably no difference. I have asked about it a week ago http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2984/nrf24l01-mini-vs-normal-size-module

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      • GertSandersG
        GertSandersG
        GertSanders
        Hardware Contributor
        wrote on last edited by GertSanders
        #14

        @AWI No problem, this board is making its way to me via the mail now (was shipped from OSH Park last wednesday).

        I'm hoping to test it coming week.

        This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches. So pull-up resistors and connection for two contacts (normally closed) is provided (on the pins that allow hardware wake up from power down), and nothing else. No crystal, just minimal power decoupling and a led. No FTDI adapter or ISP. And of course only connection for the SMD version of the NRF24.

        0_1454851622651_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.22.03.png

        0_1454851679505_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.21.41.png

        While that was being made at OSH Park I prepared a second design, but this one is still in movement (not ordered yet), measurements are in mm:

        0_1454852947623_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.47.56.png

        It is certainly not a Sensebender, as it lacks ATSHA204A, SI7021 and SPIFlash, but it does have FTDI interface and optional pull-ups on D2 and D3. It is my first try at SMD, with 0805 size components (I need to be able to hand solder them).

        The objective is to make a working sensor board as flat as possible. At the moment is is even smaller then the CR2032 batteryholder I was planning to use. A possibility is that I go for a two board approach using this "flat node" and a second board to hold a CR1632 (a holder for this smaller battery is in the image above, Keystone Technologies model 3013).

        To be continued ...

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        • GertSandersG GertSanders

          @AWI No problem, this board is making its way to me via the mail now (was shipped from OSH Park last wednesday).

          I'm hoping to test it coming week.

          This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches. So pull-up resistors and connection for two contacts (normally closed) is provided (on the pins that allow hardware wake up from power down), and nothing else. No crystal, just minimal power decoupling and a led. No FTDI adapter or ISP. And of course only connection for the SMD version of the NRF24.

          0_1454851622651_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.22.03.png

          0_1454851679505_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.21.41.png

          While that was being made at OSH Park I prepared a second design, but this one is still in movement (not ordered yet), measurements are in mm:

          0_1454852947623_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.47.56.png

          It is certainly not a Sensebender, as it lacks ATSHA204A, SI7021 and SPIFlash, but it does have FTDI interface and optional pull-ups on D2 and D3. It is my first try at SMD, with 0805 size components (I need to be able to hand solder them).

          The objective is to make a working sensor board as flat as possible. At the moment is is even smaller then the CR2032 batteryholder I was planning to use. A possibility is that I go for a two board approach using this "flat node" and a second board to hold a CR1632 (a holder for this smaller battery is in the image above, Keystone Technologies model 3013).

          To be continued ...

          alexsh1A
          alexsh1A
          alexsh1
          wrote on last edited by
          #15

          @GertSanders said:

          This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches.

          This is what I was looking for as I need a small board for a reed switch. Please keep us posted about your testing

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          • M
            M
            meddie
            wrote on last edited by
            #16

            i like the first layou. Its just pretty narrow. ideal for housing in a cable duct. if there will be an atsha204, a flash modul and a battery sensor this would be the perfect node.

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            • alexsh1A
              alexsh1A
              alexsh1
              wrote on last edited by alexsh1
              #17

              Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

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              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

                YveauxY
                YveauxY
                Yveaux
                Mod
                wrote on last edited by
                #18

                @alexsh1 those pliers seem to be the wrong size.... :smirk:

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • alexsh1A
                  alexsh1A
                  alexsh1
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  @Yveaux yeah, I know - I placed an order today for a new set of cutters on Amazon

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                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                    Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

                    AWIA
                    AWIA
                    AWI
                    Hero Member
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #20

                    @alexsh1 don't mount it in the wrong direction...

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                    • AWIA AWI

                      @alexsh1 don't mount it in the wrong direction...

                      alexsh1A
                      alexsh1A
                      alexsh1
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      @AWI you mean nrf24l01+? I have to check what the best fit is given I'll have a few wires

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @AWI you mean nrf24l01+? I have to check what the best fit is given I'll have a few wires

                        AWIA
                        AWIA
                        AWI
                        Hero Member
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #22

                        @alexsh1 this is what I did. Mount it in the same direction as the original

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                        • YveauxY Yveaux

                          @alexsh1 those pliers seem to be the wrong size.... :smirk:

                          alexsh1A
                          alexsh1A
                          alexsh1
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #23

                          @Yveaux are these much better now? ;)))

                          0_1455024726133_image.jpeg

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                          • AWIA AWI

                            @alexsh1 this is what I did. Mount it in the same direction as the original

                            alexsh1A
                            alexsh1A
                            alexsh1
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #24

                            @AWI Now I see what you mean! Thanks for heads up - really appreciated it. This is the first time I'm dealing with this transceiver in SMD

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                            • alexsh1A alexsh1

                              @Yveaux are these much better now? ;)))

                              0_1455024726133_image.jpeg

                              YveauxY
                              YveauxY
                              Yveaux
                              Mod
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #25

                              @alexsh1 much less of a challenge :satisfied:

                              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                @GertSanders said:

                                This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches.

                                This is what I was looking for as I need a small board for a reed switch. Please keep us posted about your testing

                                GertSandersG
                                GertSandersG
                                GertSanders
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #26

                                @alexsh1 My very narrow board was built and tested today. It works fine, I posted info on the hardware forum.

                                I must say I feel pity for this sliver of plastic and metal ...

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                                • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                  @alexsh1 My very narrow board was built and tested today. It works fine, I posted info on the hardware forum.

                                  I must say I feel pity for this sliver of plastic and metal ...

                                  alexsh1A
                                  alexsh1A
                                  alexsh1
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #27

                                  @GertSanders said:

                                  @alexsh1 My very narrow board was built and tested today. It works fine, I posted info on the hardware forum.

                                  I must say I feel pity for this sliver of plastic and metal ...

                                  Excellent! I ordered your narrow board a few days ago as I thought it would be very useful.

                                  One thing I can tell for sure - cutters are really well built. They are made in Japan and electrostatic safe. Most important they are not big as the ones I had before.

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                                  • SweebeeS
                                    SweebeeS
                                    Sweebee
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #28

                                    ordered the pro mini shields and I'm not disappointed :) As small as you can get:




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                                    • SweebeeS Sweebee

                                      ordered the pro mini shields and I'm not disappointed :) As small as you can get:




                                      YveauxY
                                      YveauxY
                                      Yveaux
                                      Mod
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #29

                                      @Sweebee Very nice indeed!
                                      I'm very surprised btw that you're using 2xAA to power the PIR. Will it work reliably (no false detections), even when the batteries are running out?
                                      I use 2xAA to power Pro Mini + nRF and an extra AA to power the PIR. This way the supply to the PIR will stay > 3V over time.

                                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                      • YveauxY Yveaux

                                        @Sweebee Very nice indeed!
                                        I'm very surprised btw that you're using 2xAA to power the PIR. Will it work reliably (no false detections), even when the batteries are running out?
                                        I use 2xAA to power Pro Mini + nRF and an extra AA to power the PIR. This way the supply to the PIR will stay > 3V over time.

                                        SweebeeS
                                        SweebeeS
                                        Sweebee
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #30

                                        @Yveaux the pirs work fine if you only have interrupts with CHANGE. I don't use a sleep timer. If you wake it up every minute or so its unreliable yes. but only with interrupts from the pir it works fine. I have 10 pirs like this. Oldest one is from march 2015 and still running.

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                                        • SweebeeS Sweebee

                                          @Yveaux the pirs work fine if you only have interrupts with CHANGE. I don't use a sleep timer. If you wake it up every minute or so its unreliable yes. but only with interrupts from the pir it works fine. I have 10 pirs like this. Oldest one is from march 2015 and still running.

                                          YveauxY
                                          YveauxY
                                          Yveaux
                                          Mod
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #31

                                          @Sweebee Consider yourself lucky then! I have the same issues decribed here when powering using 2xAA.
                                          I ditched the step-up converter as it introduces too much noise and reduces battery life. The 3xAA solution seems to work reliably though.

                                          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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