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  • GertSandersG GertSanders

    Without LDO, but with pull up resistors (smallest board I could find):
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Industrial-High-Precision-Si7021-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32524005324.html

    With LDO:
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html

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    @GertSanders and @AWI Thanks!

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      Your plan is it to change your narrow board with SDL/SDA pad. maybe a jumper to change D2/D3 pin to SDL/SDA?

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        gloob
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        It`s a mess that the pinout of both modules is different.

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          @Carl-H it's a possibility. No plans yet, other projects ongoing.

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            I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
            http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
            (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
            If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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            • F fleinze

              I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
              (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
              If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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              @fleinze I would suggest to leave these as they are and measure the consumption. Removing the LDO didn't give me a noticeable difference. It could depend on the board however.

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              • F fleinze

                I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                @fleinze I am using ATmega328 with 1Mhz and with LDO i have 15uA in standby mode. I have removed the LDO and measured 8uA. You should try it yourself.

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                • F fleinze

                  I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                  (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                  If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                  @fleinze I wrote a few words about it over here http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3049/slim-node-si7021-sensor-example/

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                    #19

                    @m26872 @kenci @AWI Thank you very much for your answers!
                    I will go for removing the LDO but letting the level-shifter in place, because it is a pain in the ass to bypass the levelshifter.

                    Bypassing the desoldered LDO is very easy. Just connect the following point on the resistor-array:
                    0_1455974189828_gy21.jpg

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                    • F fleinze

                      @m26872 @kenci @AWI Thank you very much for your answers!
                      I will go for removing the LDO but letting the level-shifter in place, because it is a pain in the ass to bypass the levelshifter.

                      Bypassing the desoldered LDO is very easy. Just connect the following point on the resistor-array:
                      0_1455974189828_gy21.jpg

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                      #20

                      @fleinze The 662k on this board has a typical drop-out of 250mV and power consumption of only 1uA... and takes care of a stable power supply. I doubt if there is any advantage in bridging or removing the LDO.

                      662k
                      0_1456149818998_upload-5b22a252-988a-4acd-b4d8-15be0500a58c

                      si7021
                      0_1456149758981_upload-6a1d2eb3-c0c8-4556-a701-7d2e5db8608c

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                      • AWIA AWI

                        @fleinze The 662k on this board has a typical drop-out of 250mV and power consumption of only 1uA... and takes care of a stable power supply. I doubt if there is any advantage in bridging or removing the LDO.

                        662k
                        0_1456149818998_upload-5b22a252-988a-4acd-b4d8-15be0500a58c

                        si7021
                        0_1456149758981_upload-6a1d2eb3-c0c8-4556-a701-7d2e5db8608c

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                        @AWI What happens when the input voltage drops below 3.1V ? It seems the output voltage just follows the input voltage minus the dropout. I have not measured this yet, but I'm assuming this, since i have nodes working below 3.1V and sending temperature and humidity readings.

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                        • GertSandersG GertSanders

                          @AWI What happens when the input voltage drops below 3.1V ? It seems the output voltage just follows the input voltage minus the dropout. I have not measured this yet, but I'm assuming this, since i have nodes working below 3.1V and sending temperature and humidity readings.

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                          @GertSanders No conclusive reading from the datasheet. I will do some measurements later. ..

                          0_1456219785462_upload-af85eb98-f577-4011-96e9-ef35b5ef97bb

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