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  • GertSandersG Offline
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    GertSanders
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    Without LDO, but with pull up resistors (smallest board I could find):
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Industrial-High-Precision-Si7021-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32524005324.html

    With LDO:
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html

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    • GertSandersG GertSanders

      Without LDO, but with pull up resistors (smallest board I could find):
      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Industrial-High-Precision-Si7021-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32524005324.html

      With LDO:
      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html

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      m26872
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      @GertSanders and @AWI Thanks!

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      • Carl HC Offline
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        Your plan is it to change your narrow board with SDL/SDA pad. maybe a jumper to change D2/D3 pin to SDL/SDA?

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          gloob
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          #13

          It`s a mess that the pinout of both modules is different.

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          • GertSandersG Offline
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            #14

            @Carl-H it's a possibility. No plans yet, other projects ongoing.

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            • F Offline
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              #15

              I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
              (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
              If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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              • F fleinze

                I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                @fleinze I would suggest to leave these as they are and measure the consumption. Removing the LDO didn't give me a noticeable difference. It could depend on the board however.

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                • F fleinze

                  I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                  (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                  If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                  #17

                  @fleinze I am using ATmega328 with 1Mhz and with LDO i have 15uA in standby mode. I have removed the LDO and measured 8uA. You should try it yourself.

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                  • F fleinze

                    I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                    (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                    If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                    #18

                    @fleinze I wrote a few words about it over here http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3049/slim-node-si7021-sensor-example/

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                      #19

                      @m26872 @kenci @AWI Thank you very much for your answers!
                      I will go for removing the LDO but letting the level-shifter in place, because it is a pain in the ass to bypass the levelshifter.

                      Bypassing the desoldered LDO is very easy. Just connect the following point on the resistor-array:
                      0_1455974189828_gy21.jpg

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                      • F fleinze

                        @m26872 @kenci @AWI Thank you very much for your answers!
                        I will go for removing the LDO but letting the level-shifter in place, because it is a pain in the ass to bypass the levelshifter.

                        Bypassing the desoldered LDO is very easy. Just connect the following point on the resistor-array:
                        0_1455974189828_gy21.jpg

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                        #20

                        @fleinze The 662k on this board has a typical drop-out of 250mV and power consumption of only 1uA... and takes care of a stable power supply. I doubt if there is any advantage in bridging or removing the LDO.

                        662k
                        0_1456149818998_upload-5b22a252-988a-4acd-b4d8-15be0500a58c

                        si7021
                        0_1456149758981_upload-6a1d2eb3-c0c8-4556-a701-7d2e5db8608c

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                        • AWIA AWI

                          @fleinze The 662k on this board has a typical drop-out of 250mV and power consumption of only 1uA... and takes care of a stable power supply. I doubt if there is any advantage in bridging or removing the LDO.

                          662k
                          0_1456149818998_upload-5b22a252-988a-4acd-b4d8-15be0500a58c

                          si7021
                          0_1456149758981_upload-6a1d2eb3-c0c8-4556-a701-7d2e5db8608c

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                          @AWI What happens when the input voltage drops below 3.1V ? It seems the output voltage just follows the input voltage minus the dropout. I have not measured this yet, but I'm assuming this, since i have nodes working below 3.1V and sending temperature and humidity readings.

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                          • GertSandersG GertSanders

                            @AWI What happens when the input voltage drops below 3.1V ? It seems the output voltage just follows the input voltage minus the dropout. I have not measured this yet, but I'm assuming this, since i have nodes working below 3.1V and sending temperature and humidity readings.

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                            AWI
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                            wrote on last edited by AWI
                            #22

                            @GertSanders No conclusive reading from the datasheet. I will do some measurements later. ..

                            0_1456219785462_upload-af85eb98-f577-4011-96e9-ef35b5ef97bb

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