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    GertSanders
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    #3

    @TimO said:

    HTU21D

    I also like the HTU21D boards, but I prefer the really small SI7021.

    I was wondering which other options there are.

    I also use a breakout board with power converters on it:

    0_1455226298095_Screen Shot 2016-02-11 at 22.30.49.png

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    So the question is, are there any other small options ?

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      I found this compact board:

      0_1455222937347_IMG_7767.jpg

      I plan to combine this with a narrow board:
      0_1455222983188_IMG_7766.jpg

      Spares me the grief of trying to solder the SI7021 chip itself.

      Time to make an EAGLE library part :-)

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      m26872
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      @GertSanders Where did you find it?

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        GertSanders
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        @m26872 I found both SI7021 on Aliexpress.com

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          @m26872 I found both SI7021 on Aliexpress.com

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          m26872
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          @GertSanders Link?

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            emc2
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            Not SI7021 directly, but there are a lot of small sized I2C sensors.

            I use a BME280 board on my gateway and on a node.
            I also use a BH1750 (slightly bigger) outside to track plants sun exposure.

            If you end up with a design where the I2C bus is included I can definitively see a lot of uses for it!

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              AWI
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              Another off-topic.. I use these bmp180 boards to power the low power nodes from a 4.1 volt rechargeable Li cell. The LDO is broken out on the connection

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                @GertSanders Link?

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                AWI
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                #9

                @m26872 Industrial High Precision Si7021 Humidity Sensor Module With I2C Interface link

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                  GertSanders
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                  Without LDO, but with pull up resistors (smallest board I could find):
                  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Industrial-High-Precision-Si7021-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32524005324.html

                  With LDO:
                  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html

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                    Without LDO, but with pull up resistors (smallest board I could find):
                    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Industrial-High-Precision-Si7021-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32524005324.html

                    With LDO:
                    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html

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                    m26872
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                    @GertSanders and @AWI Thanks!

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                      Your plan is it to change your narrow board with SDL/SDA pad. maybe a jumper to change D2/D3 pin to SDL/SDA?

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                        gloob
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                        It`s a mess that the pinout of both modules is different.

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                          GertSanders
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                          @Carl-H it's a possibility. No plans yet, other projects ongoing.

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                            I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                            http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                            (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                            If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                              I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                              (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                              If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                              AWI
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                              @fleinze I would suggest to leave these as they are and measure the consumption. Removing the LDO didn't give me a noticeable difference. It could depend on the board however.

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                                I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                                http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                                (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                                If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                                @fleinze I am using ATmega328 with 1Mhz and with LDO i have 15uA in standby mode. I have removed the LDO and measured 8uA. You should try it yourself.

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                                  I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                                  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                                  (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                                  If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                                  m26872
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                                  @fleinze I wrote a few words about it over here http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3049/slim-node-si7021-sensor-example/

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                                    @m26872 @kenci @AWI Thank you very much for your answers!
                                    I will go for removing the LDO but letting the level-shifter in place, because it is a pain in the ass to bypass the levelshifter.

                                    Bypassing the desoldered LDO is very easy. Just connect the following point on the resistor-array:
                                    0_1455974189828_gy21.jpg

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                                      @m26872 @kenci @AWI Thank you very much for your answers!
                                      I will go for removing the LDO but letting the level-shifter in place, because it is a pain in the ass to bypass the levelshifter.

                                      Bypassing the desoldered LDO is very easy. Just connect the following point on the resistor-array:
                                      0_1455974189828_gy21.jpg

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                                      AWI
                                      Hero Member
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                                      @fleinze The 662k on this board has a typical drop-out of 250mV and power consumption of only 1uA... and takes care of a stable power supply. I doubt if there is any advantage in bridging or removing the LDO.

                                      662k
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                                      si7021
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                                        @fleinze The 662k on this board has a typical drop-out of 250mV and power consumption of only 1uA... and takes care of a stable power supply. I doubt if there is any advantage in bridging or removing the LDO.

                                        662k
                                        0_1456149818998_upload-5b22a252-988a-4acd-b4d8-15be0500a58c

                                        si7021
                                        0_1456149758981_upload-6a1d2eb3-c0c8-4556-a701-7d2e5db8608c

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                                        GertSanders
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                                        @AWI What happens when the input voltage drops below 3.1V ? It seems the output voltage just follows the input voltage minus the dropout. I have not measured this yet, but I'm assuming this, since i have nodes working below 3.1V and sending temperature and humidity readings.

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                                          @AWI What happens when the input voltage drops below 3.1V ? It seems the output voltage just follows the input voltage minus the dropout. I have not measured this yet, but I'm assuming this, since i have nodes working below 3.1V and sending temperature and humidity readings.

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                                          @GertSanders No conclusive reading from the datasheet. I will do some measurements later. ..

                                          0_1456219785462_upload-af85eb98-f577-4011-96e9-ef35b5ef97bb

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