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NRF24L01+PA+LNA

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  • O Oitzu

    Add shield try again. Even electronics near to the pa/lna module can induce enough noise that it stops working.

    Different power supplys on the ethernet gateway and the uno?

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    flopp
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    @Oitzu
    Ok will try with shield.

    Yes, different computers both GW and REP is powered by USB.

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      @flopp said:

      Yes, different computers both GW and REP is powered by USB.

      But same source the pa/lna module or also different?

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      • O Oitzu

        @flopp said:

        Yes, different computers both GW and REP is powered by USB.

        But same source the pa/lna module or also different?

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        @Oitzu
        PA is getting from a second USB port(not same as GW) through a step-down to 3,3.
        GND is connected together from both ports

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          @Oitzu
          PA is getting from a second USB port(not same as GW) through a step-down to 3,3.
          GND is connected together from both ports

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          @flopp said:
          through a step-down to 3,3.

          I suspect linear regulator? Then it should, normally, no problem.

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          • O Oitzu

            @flopp said:
            through a step-down to 3,3.

            I suspect linear regulator? Then it should, normally, no problem.

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            @Oitzu said:

            @flopp said:
            through a step-down to 3,3.

            I suspect linear regulator?

            I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

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              @Oitzu said:

              @flopp said:
              through a step-down to 3,3.

              I suspect linear regulator?

              I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

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              @flopp said:

              I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

              Oh, sounds like a switching regulator to me, but can't be sure. Does it have any name? A switching regulator could produce some significant ripple in your supply, that maybe needs to be filtered out.

              Would try the shield first, and then see. :D

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                @flopp said:

                I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

                Oh, sounds like a switching regulator to me, but can't be sure. Does it have any name? A switching regulator could produce some significant ripple in your supply, that maybe needs to be filtered out.

                Would try the shield first, and then see. :D

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                @Oitzu said:

                @flopp said:

                I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

                Oh, sounds like a switching regulator to me, but can't be sure. Does it have any name? A switching regulator could produce some significant ripple in your supply, that maybe needs to be filtered out.

                Would try the shield first, and then see. :D

                Thank you @Oitzu I change to a different step-down and it started to work, even without shield. Now I use this http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-5V-to-3-3V-DC-DC-Step-Down-Power-Supply-Buck-Module-AMS1117-LDO-800MA-/281058278731

                before it was this "s**t" http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/RC-Airplane-Module-Mini-360-DC-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-4-75V-23V-to/1686390_32266152653.html

                Left is GOOD right is BAD

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                  @flopp said:

                  Left is GOOD right is BAD

                  Just to note: That is a little bit to simple. The left is a linear regulator the right one a switching regulator.
                  That are different technologies that both have there up and downsides. But for sensors a linear regulator often fits better, yes.

                  it started to work, even without shield

                  Never the less i would recommend the shield for even better performance, especially if you want to crank up the pa_level for higher range.

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                    I gave up on trying to get the PA+LNB version working with my NodeMCU, reverted back to standard for now!

                    BTW, I tried it with many different power supplies and with without shielding. Tried for almost a week.

                    In the end I buckled and ordered a proper shielded version, awaiting its arrival...

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                      @Mark-Swift said:

                      In the end I buckled and ordered a proper shielded version, awaiting its arrival...

                      Where did you get this one? And also share your experience after arriving of the item

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                        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/E01-ML01DP5-Ebyte-2-4GHz-20dBm-2100m-nRF24L01-SPI-Wireless-transceiver-module/32638720689.html

                        The company also communicated some interesting issues that can cause issues with the nRF... Such as:

                        1. Watch control voltage, they're easily damaged if you use 5v, hence they suggest pushing control voltage with a 1K-5.1K resistor, even better to use 3.3v (hence on my next one to play it safe I'll use a spare 5v -> 3.3v level shift converter too).
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                          @Mark-Swift let us know how they perform. The supplier looks very professional.
                          Would be interesting if they really reach the promised 2.1km :D
                          (I wonder with which antenna)

                          even better to use 3.3v (hence on my next one to play it safe I'll use a spare 5v -> 3.3v level shift converter too).

                          Or use a 3.3V pro mini.

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