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  • alexsh1A Offline
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    alexsh1
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    @TheoL I have just uploaded ESPEasy R78 stable firmware. It works really well on existing WiFi with Domoticz. The biggest advantage of it as a remote relay is that it reports its status to the virtual sensor in Domoticz. This is something z-wave devices do and something I've been missing with MySensors.

    @hek I think the memory is only 1Mb (Wemos D1 mini - 4Mb) and I am not sure it would be enough for the GW (with signing and other stuff).

    Price wise though this cannot beaten ($7 for the RF + ESP8266 version)

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    • Mark SwiftM Offline
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      How could we make this a MySensors node?

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      • Mark SwiftM Mark Swift

        How could we make this a MySensors node?

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        @Mark-Swift I do not think you can.
        IMHO one needs to (a) upgrade EEPROM. This is doable but very tricky the flash chip is in a place not easily accessible by a soldering iron
        (b) given that it is based on ESP, connect nrf24l01+ to it. Please see below how FTDI is connected - I think the same way you can connect Arduino Pro mini. I do not think you can connect nrf24l01+ directly as the GPIO number is limited (c) come up with a sketch for ESP8266 as a node.

        0_1476781881612_image.jpeg

        In my view this is just not worth the effort.

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        • hekH Online
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          hek
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          #9

          @alexsh1

          Couldn't you just run the MySensors ESP gateway on it (presenting it as a binary switch)?

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          • hekH hek

            @alexsh1

            Couldn't you just run the MySensors ESP gateway on it (presenting it as a binary switch)?

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            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            @hek two issues with your proposal:

            1. ESP-12 which is used for MySensors ESP GW has got more GPIOs and 4Mb memory. Sonoff has a limited number of GPIOs and 1Mb memory marginally better than ESP-01. This can be upgraded, but not easy. I can do SMT, but here is a challenge. See below

            0_1476782323575_image.jpeg

            1. connect nrf24l01+ - I did not figure out how to do that given that GPIOs are limited. Sure Arduino can be connected, but it is not the same
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            • alexsh1A Offline
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              #11

              A better photo for your understanding.
              I know some people upgraded the chip, but the board got really messy. I do not think I can stick my fan into it - too many plastic components which will start melting.

              0_1476782548742_image.jpeg

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                #12

                I mean skip the NRF2401.. just run it as a standalone gw/node.

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                • hekH hek

                  I mean skip the NRF2401.. just run it as a standalone gw/node.

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                  #13

                  @hek in this case it is doable. Not sure if 1mb Is enough though

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                  • FotoFieberF Offline
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                    #14

                    I hacked a sonoff dual:
                    https://itead.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/11000006870

                    It should be easy to upload a wifi gateway sketch. I made an MQTT integration.

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                    • Mark SwiftM Offline
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                      Mark Swift
                      wrote on last edited by Mark Swift
                      #15

                      Thanks for the great replies.

                      I'm not currently using MQTT, I'm running the Ethernet gateway via a W5100. Can I use the ESP boards, i.e this or the nodemcu without the need for an NRF24?

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                      • Mark SwiftM Mark Swift

                        Thanks for the great replies.

                        I'm not currently using MQTT, I'm running the Ethernet gateway via a W5100. Can I use the ESP boards, i.e this or the nodemcu without the need for an NRF24?

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                        #16

                        @Mark-Swift how would you intend to use Sonoff with MySensors? Do you have the ESP GW?

                        I am using several Sonoffs with Domoticz via a JSON script. https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Domoticz_API/JSON_URL's

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                          So - I agree re: Sonoffs - we've written our own software at the tech blog and though not quite step by step it is easy enough to use and ROMS are available to save you having to get into compiling code. We use Node-Red and MQTT as the base of everything - so you have a number of ESP sensors and relay controllers etc all talking to a Raspberry Pi - or something much cheaper like an Orange Pi Zero running Armbian for example - and basically you're sending simple MQTT messages around the house - nothing has to go outside unless of course you want remote control at a distance. Modifying Sonoffs is easy - I'm sitting in front of some now updating them with our software - just in the process of figuring our which port is used for the second relay in the DUAL product.

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                          • alexsh1A alexsh1

                            @hek in this case it is doable. Not sure if 1mb Is enough though

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                            @alexsh1 Replace the FLASH in the Sonoff - easier in the latest models as they've put the FLASH chip on the back (Sonoff TH16 etc) - on the originals it was jammed in next to the programming button and a pain to replace.

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                              @alexsh1 Replace the FLASH in the Sonoff - easier in the latest models as they've put the FLASH chip on the back (Sonoff TH16 etc) - on the originals it was jammed in next to the programming button and a pain to replace.

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                              @peterscargill Peter, I am stuck with the previous model (WiFi + 433) and changing FLASH is literally impossible even with a small tip. Using a hot fan is not an option as it would melt down all plastic including the button.

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                                #20

                                Here is a working example of using Sonoff with MySensors and the mqtt gateway.
                                No need to replace any flash etc...

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                                • EfflonE Efflon

                                  Here is a working example of using Sonoff with MySensors and the mqtt gateway.
                                  No need to replace any flash etc...

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                                  #21

                                  @Efflon we were talking about a different software whereby more flash was required
                                  Besides 1mb flash is not much in the esp8566 world

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                                    dbemowsk
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                                    So I have been debating on getting some of these sonoffs. I am assuming the WiFi gateway in the build section of the site is what I would need to build? Is there a better option for using these with my Vera Plus?

                                    Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                                    Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                                      So I have been debating on getting some of these sonoffs. I am assuming the WiFi gateway in the build section of the site is what I would need to build? Is there a better option for using these with my Vera Plus?

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                                      @dbemowsk no, the wifi gateway above is to connect nrf24l01+ via wifi. For Sonoff I just reflashed it with easyesp and it works via my normal router with Domoticz. You can have the MQTT setup with Sonoff - thats what @peterscargill did

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                                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                        @dbemowsk no, the wifi gateway above is to connect nrf24l01+ via wifi. For Sonoff I just reflashed it with easyesp and it works via my normal router with Domoticz. You can have the MQTT setup with Sonoff - thats what @peterscargill did

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                                        #24

                                        @alexsh1 said in Looking for detailed description for hacking a sonoff:

                                        For Sonoff I just reflashed it with easyesp and it works via my normal router with Domoticz. You can have the MQTT setup with Sonoff - thats what @peterscargill did

                                        Will it work with Vera? I purchased one of these recently from WalMart which also runs on an esp8266 module. I wonder if I can run run the easyesp firmware on that one also?
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                                        Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                                        Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                                        • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                          @alexsh1 said in Looking for detailed description for hacking a sonoff:

                                          For Sonoff I just reflashed it with easyesp and it works via my normal router with Domoticz. You can have the MQTT setup with Sonoff - thats what @peterscargill did

                                          Will it work with Vera? I purchased one of these recently from WalMart which also runs on an esp8266 module. I wonder if I can run run the easyesp firmware on that one also?
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                                          @dbemowsk Unfortunately, I am not familiar with Vera. Can you send http or json commands from Vera? If yes, it will work. On RPi this is easy to implement.

                                          Generally speaking you can flash many devices with easyesp if you find how to connect FTDI. I have ESP-01 and ESP-12 running easyesp. Again I am not familiar with the device you posted (the most important question is does it have FTDI or can you identify it by soldering corresponding pins?) and suggest to ask the same question on the easyesp forum.

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