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  • hekH Offline
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    #18

    RFM69 uses interrupts, yes.

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    • scalzS Offline
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      #19

      for batt/powering choice, I don't see a consensus lol! I think it really depends on goals and requirements. sometimes sensors can require some voltage, or you want less maintenance+cheaper batt etc.

      • lithium AA/AAA (or alkaline but less good), cheap in packs, easy to find and great seldischarge rate. It's 2500-3000mah. Put them in // and you can double your lifetime... if no problem with footprint, you can find cheap LR14, 8000mah, not tried, but wow ;)
      • Coincell, lower mah, and very variable lifteime if noname...

      And booster is interesting if you control the power consumption of your system, and use an ultra efficient during very light loads.
      Then, not sure if cr123 win so easily. CR123 have good selfdicharge rate in primary batt form, and it's something like 1200mah.

      About the overall size of the device vs batt size etc..because booster takes more component..but when you make a device you don't use only an atmel+radio only.., you need more things, so at the end it's bigger. near the size of an AA/AAA. or use shield board style, but then it's not thin, less nice when using coincell. But I like the format of coincell, that's just not the same league...
      Why I say this..because I made some experiments, and have some boards with boosters (not released yet..) and I like the TPS61098x..crazy thing, but very tiny :)
      I don't want to debate..just my thought.

      for rfm69, +1 for interrupts :) and if you want to optimize the power consumption in future with listenmode ;)

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        Can anyone confirm microchip 24LC64 as eeprom (pinout is standard for sot23 eprom, so it is possible to change chip in future)? Is standard library compartible with it? Thanks!

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          @Koresh I think this eeprom has libs for arduino. but if this is for using ota with dualoptiboot and mysensors, as far as I know, it's not compatible. only jedec spi eeprom for the moment..If it's only for datastorage, I don't see problems.

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            I'm revising my earlier comment. Based on new experience, I wouldn't recommend using the smaller atmega328p.

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              @Koresh Where do you get the rfm69(h)w rev 3.0 from? Or is it the hc model? I can only seem to find rev 2 (?) on Ali?

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              • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

                @Koresh Where do you get the rfm69(h)w rev 3.0 from? Or is it the hc model? I can only seem to find rev 2 (?) on Ali?

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                @bjornhallberg said:

                @Koresh Where do you get the rfm69(h)w rev 3.0 from? Or is it the hc model? I can only seem to find rev 2 (?) on Ali?

                You can find these modules as "rfm69hc" on Ali. Do not forget about haggling :)

                I've received new version of these little boards :smiley:
                Will show new soldered boards asap.

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                  #25

                  Next revision :smirk:
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                  • KoreshK Offline
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                    #26

                    Looks perfect with new usb-ttl. :smiley: I plan to use this configuration as RFM69-USB gateway.
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                      @koresh When are you planning to release the Eagle files for the board please?

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @koresh When are you planning to release the Eagle files for the board please?

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                        @alexsh1 said:

                        @koresh When are you planning to release the Eagle files for the board please?

                        After all tests are completed :)

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                          All my rfm69 boards family are under tests now :smiley:

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                            @Koresh Could you give us a rough estimate of the assembled price for the different nodes?

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                            • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                              @Koresh Could you give us a rough estimate of the assembled price for the different nodes?

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                              @Cliff-Karlsson said:

                              @Koresh Could you give us a rough estimate of the assembled price for the different nodes?

                              I will try to estimate rough prices for all boards today.

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                                So I am ready to present estimated prices to all my new boards.
                                The estimate is too rough because I am not sure about size of the production batch. But it's better than nothing. Prices include pcb's, components and assembly. Configurations are not fully accepted yet.

                                ---WALL SOCKET INSERTABLE NODE
                                BASIC (ac/dc, atmega, rfm69, 10a relay) - 9.5$
                                ADVANCED (ac/dc, atmega, rfm69, 10a relay, current sensor, rgb led) - 10.8$
                                MAX (ac/dc, atmega, rfm69, 10a relay, currrent sensor, atsha204, watchdog, rgb led) - 12.2$

                                ---WALL SWITCH INSERTABLE NODE
                                BASIC (atmega, rfm69, buttons controller, JST wires) - 6.5$
                                MAX (atmega, rfm69, buttons controller, JST wires, atsha204) - 7.5$

                                --BUTTON SIZE RADIO NODE
                                BASIC (atmega, rfm69) - 6$
                                MAX (atmega, rfm69, atsha204) - 7$

                                --SECRET TTL-USB
                                BASIC - 1.4$

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                                  Ahh Great, I will be ordering a lot of boards when they are available. Just one question, do you have any sensor-boards planned? like PIR/temp/hum/Lux -multisensor ?

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                                    I would buy 10 of the little stamp Sized Nodes without atsha if the price for Germany is good :)
                                    ...and also 2 secret TTL Devices.

                                    Hope release is soon ;)

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                                      Koresh,
                                      Great work, I must say that I would be also interested in getting a couple of your boards as soon as they are ready !

                                      Your second life begins when you understand you only have one !

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                                      • scalzS scalz

                                        @Koresh I think this eeprom has libs for arduino. but if this is for using ota with dualoptiboot and mysensors, as far as I know, it's not compatible. only jedec spi eeprom for the moment..If it's only for datastorage, I don't see problems.

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                                        @scalz Challenge accepted :) Now with OTA!
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                                        @frencho said:

                                        Koresh,
                                        Great work, I must say that I would be also interested in getting a couple of your boards as soon as they are ready !

                                        Thanks!

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                                          #37

                                          @Koresh hehe great :)

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