💬 Water Meter Pulse Sensor

[flopp]

@smilvert
I also have same meter as the picture. Yesterday I installed my sensor
I took a TCRT5000 IR sensor, https://www.mysensors.org/store/water
A cap from a soda bottle, cut it so it fits above left red wheel(X0,0001) which means one lap i 1 liter
It works but it counts little bit wrong, I have change the

if (interval<500000L)

to

if (interval<2500000L)

but anyway it counts about 3 times to much. I will check it later today

[flopp]

@flopp
This didn't worked so well, I got a lot of errors everytime nRF was sending data, then I got one pulse.
Anyone know how to protect the digital input to NOT fall when nRF sends?
Wait, when I was writing this text :) I just remember that nRF is using Pin 2, is that correct?
I will try to use pin 3 instead, as interrupt pin

[flopp]

@flopp
tried pin3, didn't help

Can it be something wrong with LM393(pcb)?

[smilvert]

@flopp Nice. You don't use a green led? I tried that and it seems to work better but then I struggle with the mounting.

Need to try this again!

[flopp]

@smilvert said in 💬 Water Meter Pulse Sensor:

You don't use a green led? I tried that and it seems to work better but then I struggle with the mounting.

I am using IR to detect movements. Green LED is flashing eveytime the IR detects movement and Red LED is power for PCB.
I am using Digital Output from PCB to pin 2 or 3 on my UNO. I have tried both with INPUT_PULLUP and without, also tried 20K between Digital Output and GND. nothing is helping

How do you use green LED with water meter?

[noname]

Hi all i just wanna see The OUTPUT of Serial Monitor for this project sow i can see results .

[gohan]

Just enable the my_debug

[Bur Han]

How can i get the pulses from SonOff.... i cannot find any digital pin 3 in sonoff... im new to this please guide me

[Soloam]

Any one used this approach? From the text I see that the node sleeps! How does it measures the consumption if the node is sleeping?

Thank you

[mfalkvidd]

@soloam could you clarify what you refer to when saying "this"? Earlier posts discuss infrared, led, magnetometer and other solutions so it is a bit hard to answer your question.

[Soloam]

@mfalkvidd hello!

I was referring to this statement in the site:

"Use this mode if you power the sensor with a battery. In this mode the sensor will sleep most of the time and only report the cumulative water volume."

Thank you

[gohan]

according to the sensor you use, each pulse should wake the node and add a count, then back to sleep.

[Soloam]

That is nice! But I would have to test it out! Probably that would make the node all the time awake during a long bath! Ok, it would not use the radio all the time, but I would like to know who that would affect the battery!

Thank you all for the feedback

[kimot]

@soloam
We sometimes forgot about other circuit than Arduino.
Use CMOS counter IC and wake up your Arduino for example every 20 impulse and read counter status.
If you want Safe battery.

[bjornhallberg]

@flopp Did you ever manage to stabilize the readings? Am I understanding you correctly that the readings were fine but the transmission got the reading scrambled?

Did you try to find a magnetic field with the meter instead? I have a similar meter and I'm wondering how best to approach the problem. I've seen people hook up Raspberries and cameras to do OCR basically but that seems like way too complex for an easy problem.

[bjacobse]

@flopp said in 💬 Water Meter Pulse Sensor:

TCRT5000 IR senso

I have not had good results using TCRT5000 IR sensor, did you?
@bjornhallberg well I still think this is the best approach to use RPI + OCR

https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1594/automatic-water-meter-reading-with-a-webcam
https://blog.m.nu/vattenmatning-med-raspberry-pi-och-webkamera/

[bjornhallberg]

While looking into the water meter I realized that we are getting a "smart" meter replacement soon. I'll see if I can speed up the replacement schedule. Anyhow, the replacement is a Kamstrup Multical 21 (https://www.kamstrup.com/en-en/water-solutions/water-meters/multical-21) which has several options for reading:

• Requesting the data via optical interface?
• Enabling the pulse function via optical interface, and then reading the IR pulse at 1imp/10lit.
• Reading the wireless mbus signal? (e.g. https://github.com/weetmuts/wmbusmeters)

[zboblamont]

@bjornhallberg Suggest you discuss with your water supplier, and see what THEY intend to deploy for comms and explain what your own objectives are, that may refine what you are looking at, and they MIGHT actually help rather than be play "stupid" which is unfortunately common nowadays. In all probability they will be looking at wireless m-bus for drive-by readings, this is the predominant method of retrieval.
I admit to surprise at them deploying ultrasonics, they are on the expensive end of the market but they are extremely reliable and accurate.

[flopp]

@bjacobse said in 💬 Water Meter Pulse Sensor:

@flopp said in 💬 Water Meter Pulse Sensor:

TCRT5000 IR senso

I have not had good results using TCRT5000 IR sensor, did you?

I didn’t get it to work.
I was so lucky that my water company change the meter to a meter with wireless m-bus.
So I bought a box for this and now I have 100% correct readings.

[zboblamont]

@bjacobse Another option perhaps to consider (if it is physically viable), is to insert a meter and sensor of your choice within your property, they are not expensive nowadays and easy enough to fit ?
A simple meter and reed switch such as this link text or similar perhaps.