MYSBootloader 1.3pre2 testing
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@mannkind thank you for your reply. I don't want to get you in trouble regarding the rules. i don't feel it is against the rules to promote open source or contribution around mysensors if it makes the journey more enjoyable. maybe a mod or admin can pitch in and clarify in any case.
I understand that the gateway role is to open up integration with other controllers (and we have quite many thanks to that)
The problem i am trying to wrap my head around is to have mysensors network attached to my current controller, and ideally be able to update over the air the sketches. how can i begin doing that? i am ready to use 2 or more controller (mycontroller or myscontroller or...), 2 ore more gateways and even maybe have the nodes on two different rf channels.Basically, what is the recommended way to achieve that, while having for the time being at least, another controller attached.?
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@mannkind : thank you for your message. I'll give that a go later on.
@tekka , @anyone :)
I am trying to make this work using MYSController (from MYSBootloader_V13pre2/). I've followed the instructions above from @tekka, but it feels like the OTA process kicks around quite quick, then it seems to block in a loop[2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] RX 1;255;4;0;0;0A0001005000D4460102 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] INFO BL version=258 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] INFO Send FW info to node 1: type=A, version=1, blocks=0x0050, CRC=0x46D4 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.822 Info] TX 1;0;4;0;1;0A0001005000D446I'll try to keep it going all night, but here are my full log till now.
Any idea what is going wrong?
0_1476738954886_MySensors_20161017-230018.log -
@mannkind : thank you for your message. I'll give that a go later on.
@tekka , @anyone :)
I am trying to make this work using MYSController (from MYSBootloader_V13pre2/). I've followed the instructions above from @tekka, but it feels like the OTA process kicks around quite quick, then it seems to block in a loop[2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] RX 1;255;4;0;0;0A0001005000D4460102 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] INFO BL version=258 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] INFO Send FW info to node 1: type=A, version=1, blocks=0x0050, CRC=0x46D4 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.822 Info] TX 1;0;4;0;1;0A0001005000D446I'll try to keep it going all night, but here are my full log till now.
Any idea what is going wrong?
0_1476738954886_MySensors_20161017-230018.log -
@mannkind : thank you for your message. I'll give that a go later on.
@tekka , @anyone :)
I am trying to make this work using MYSController (from MYSBootloader_V13pre2/). I've followed the instructions above from @tekka, but it feels like the OTA process kicks around quite quick, then it seems to block in a loop[2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] RX 1;255;4;0;0;0A0001005000D4460102 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] INFO BL version=258 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.821 Info] INFO Send FW info to node 1: type=A, version=1, blocks=0x0050, CRC=0x46D4 [2016-10-17 23:09:29.822 Info] TX 1;0;4;0;1;0A0001005000D446I'll try to keep it going all night, but here are my full log till now.
Any idea what is going wrong?
0_1476738954886_MySensors_20161017-230018.log -
@jmkhael Looks like a bad radio connection (GW too close / far, interference, power) What happens if you upload the FW via serial link?
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@tekka: it was probably a mix of power/distance. when change these two parameters, OTA went fine. thank you
What is the best way to handle OTA for sleeping nodes? is there something else todo besides setting the property under settings in MYSController? Do I need to powercycle the node or will MYSController kicks in when the node sleeps/smartSleeps?
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@tekka: it was probably a mix of power/distance. when change these two parameters, OTA went fine. thank you
What is the best way to handle OTA for sleeping nodes? is there something else todo besides setting the property under settings in MYSController? Do I need to powercycle the node or will MYSController kicks in when the node sleeps/smartSleeps?
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@jmkhael MYSController will reboot the node as soon as it wakes up, sends and processes incoming messages.
@tekka my node wakes up every two minutes (or on pir movement) sends some messages (temperature, light level...) and sleeps right away. will MYSController be able to do that in this small time window? is there something i can code to help it? (heartBeat, wait, smartSomething?)
(as i saw during my few tests, i had to powercycle my node, maybe i wasn't patient enough :)) -
@tekka my node wakes up every two minutes (or on pir movement) sends some messages (temperature, light level...) and sleeps right away. will MYSController be able to do that in this small time window? is there something i can code to help it? (heartBeat, wait, smartSomething?)
(as i saw during my few tests, i had to powercycle my node, maybe i wasn't patient enough :)) -
Just tried with this release, works great (had no problem with previous release)
The only drawback is the packet bitrate, around 40 per minute with 45 bytes each.
It takes 1h to flash a node.few minutes, just make sure of your wiring as this is a very intensive process compared to node's standard radio use.Here is a flash running on a test network:

Can we update many nodes at the same time ? haven't tried
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Just tried with this release, works great (had no problem with previous release)
The only drawback is the packet bitrate, around 40 per minute with 45 bytes each.
It takes 1h to flash a node.few minutes, just make sure of your wiring as this is a very intensive process compared to node's standard radio use.Here is a flash running on a test network:

Can we update many nodes at the same time ? haven't tried
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I can now gets dozen of packets at once, then hold, continues...depending of how I press the wires on radio side :sweat:
It's a wiring problem, will try this weekend with a soldered node.Thank you
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I have also problem with speed of the upload. I get about 1 packet per 3 seconds. Is there a something in the code for the bootloader that has a waitingtime of 3 seconds? And if so, because of what? From that info we might be able to tell if it's a reception problem of the node or the gateway.
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@tekka Thank you for great job on MYSBootloader. It works fine for me. Currently I'm testing it and have few questions.
- Please can you provide source code? Maybe then I can answer my questions myself :)
- Software signing doesn't work after firmware is uploaded. EEPROM is cleared. Is it possible to restore shared key HMAC after firmware is stored?
- Is possible to send firmware with signing to prevent loading from fake gateway? I thing signing of available firmware version and firmware CRC is enough ..?
Thank you for answers.
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I have changed the fuse settings for my setup. I don't know if it makes any difference but there is a fuse for "Preserve EEPROM memory through the Chip Erase cycle". Was noticing that my sensors was getting a new id every time I did some changes in my sketches and flashed using "Upload with programmer". I have not succeeded with OTA flashing yet.
I also use the external crystal present on the Pro Mini. Using 0xFF, 0xD2 and 0xFE.
Probably only used when programming using ICSP.MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328=ATmega328 8MHz (XTAL, BOD1V8) MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720 MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048 MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.speed=38400 MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0xFF MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xD2 MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0xFE MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.file=MYSBootloader/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_8Mhz.hex MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.build.f_cpu=8000000L -
I have changed the fuse settings for my setup. I don't know if it makes any difference but there is a fuse for "Preserve EEPROM memory through the Chip Erase cycle". Was noticing that my sensors was getting a new id every time I did some changes in my sketches and flashed using "Upload with programmer". I have not succeeded with OTA flashing yet.
I also use the external crystal present on the Pro Mini. Using 0xFF, 0xD2 and 0xFE.
Probably only used when programming using ICSP.MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328=ATmega328 8MHz (XTAL, BOD1V8) MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720 MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048 MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.speed=38400 MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0xFF MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xD2 MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0xFE MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.file=MYSBootloader/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_8Mhz.hex MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.build.f_cpu=8000000L@NiklasO I'm using Arduino Mini 5V, 16Mhz with fuses as you have. Except BODLEVEL 2.7V and EEPROM Cleared. OTA works fine, 21kB hex file is sent in cca 2-5 minutes (very depends on count of wrong packets, without 47uF capacitor on NRF24 or with low power supply it takes about 2 hours :) ). I started with MYSController and small and easy Blink.ino.hex from MYSController distribution. Now I use MyController and own firmwares...
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@tekka Thank you for great job on MYSBootloader. It works fine for me. Currently I'm testing it and have few questions.
- Please can you provide source code? Maybe then I can answer my questions myself :)
- Software signing doesn't work after firmware is uploaded. EEPROM is cleared. Is it possible to restore shared key HMAC after firmware is stored?
- Is possible to send firmware with signing to prevent loading from fake gateway? I thing signing of available firmware version and firmware CRC is enough ..?
Thank you for answers.
@pku if your keys are in the sketch everything will work for signing.
#define MY_SOFT_HMAC_KEY XXX... //signing key
#define MY_AES_KEY XXX... // if you use encryption
Of course if you want to use whitelisting then you need to compile each node sketch separately with it's serial.@NiklasO
Personally I set the node ID manually to avoid this
#define MY_NODE_ID 30 // Sets a static id for a node
And I group tens so all my 3X nodes are in kitchen, 4X in office, 11X in bedroom 1 and so on.I would love to see a proxy mode in MYSController, in order to interface between a controller that doesn't support OTA and an Ethernet gateway :heart_eyes:
Let say your LAN is the following:
- MySensors gateway 192.168.0.1
- controller (raspberry + Domoticz or else) 192.168.0.2
- PC with MYSController 192.168.0.3
Whenever you need to update a node, you launch MYSController but don't connect to the gateway, then you tells Domoticz .2 to connect to MYSController .3 instead of the gateway .1, at this point MYSController starts relaying everything between Domoticz and the gateway + provides you the ability to update a node.
When you want to get back to normal operations, you set back 192.168.0.1 on Domoticz, MYSController receives a TCP reset and ends it's session with Domoticz and stop the session with the gateway.
We would get a minimum downtime and can could use MYSController to update nodes and debug traffic while letting the normal controller...controlling
