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  • NeverDieN NeverDie

    @nagelc said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

    Any suggestions how can I get serial debug messages out of the NRF52832 (Fanstel BT832)?

    Define one of the pins as serial TXO. Then connect it to RXI on an FTDI TTL-USB converter and read it that way. That's what I do, and it works.

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    @neverdie
    Do you define the pins in MyBoardNRF5? In MyBoadNRF5.cpp, I replaced the 0 in the first line with10, thinking this will map Arduino TX0 to P010. This did not seem to work. How do you map the TX0 pin?

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    • nagelcN nagelc

      @neverdie
      Do you define the pins in MyBoardNRF5? In MyBoadNRF5.cpp, I replaced the 0 in the first line with10, thinking this will map Arduino TX0 to P010. This did not seem to work. How do you map the TX0 pin?

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      NeverDie
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      @nagelc No, you want to change the values in the MyBoardNRF5.h file instead. For an example, see the source code in: https://www.openhardware.io/view/499/10-years-wireless-PIR-Sensor-on-just-one-set-of-3-AAs#tabs-source

      So, in your case, you'd want:

      #define PIN_SERIAL_TX       (10)
      

      and, to avoid conflicts, make sure that pin P0.10 isn't defined anywhere in the same .h file as something else already. If it is, you may need to change that as well.

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        Thanks. I'll give that a try.

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          Yesterday, I 've got a mailing from my components' supplier featuring new type of cells, Li-MnO2. The cell has all the features needed for nRF5:

          • 1200mah capacity
          • 1.8-3.0v range
          • low cost (ca. $3)
          • 41,0 x 24,5 x 5,2 dimensions and, importantly
          • up to 120mah peak discharge current.

          The link to manufacturer:
          http://www.fanso-battery.com/Ultra-thin-Li-MnO2-battery-CP502440-3V1200mAh-pd1905.html

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          • T Toyman

            Yesterday, I 've got a mailing from my components' supplier featuring new type of cells, Li-MnO2. The cell has all the features needed for nRF5:

            • 1200mah capacity
            • 1.8-3.0v range
            • low cost (ca. $3)
            • 41,0 x 24,5 x 5,2 dimensions and, importantly
            • up to 120mah peak discharge current.

            The link to manufacturer:
            http://www.fanso-battery.com/Ultra-thin-Li-MnO2-battery-CP502440-3V1200mAh-pd1905.html

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            @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            Yesterday, I 've got a mailing from my components' supplier featuring new type of cells, Li-MnO2. The cell has all the features needed for nRF5:

            • 1200mah capacity
            • 1.8-3.0v range
            • low cost (ca. $3)
            • 41,0 x 24,5 x 5,2 dimensions and, importantly
            • up to 120mah peak discharge current.

            The link to manufacturer:
            http://www.fanso-battery.com/Ultra-thin-Li-MnO2-battery-CP502440-3V1200mAh-pd1905.html

            Mhmhmh, a disposable battery that you have to solder I can't see it as a good idea for a node...

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            • Nca78N Nca78

              @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              Yesterday, I 've got a mailing from my components' supplier featuring new type of cells, Li-MnO2. The cell has all the features needed for nRF5:

              • 1200mah capacity
              • 1.8-3.0v range
              • low cost (ca. $3)
              • 41,0 x 24,5 x 5,2 dimensions and, importantly
              • up to 120mah peak discharge current.

              The link to manufacturer:
              http://www.fanso-battery.com/Ultra-thin-Li-MnO2-battery-CP502440-3V1200mAh-pd1905.html

              Mhmhmh, a disposable battery that you have to solder I can't see it as a good idea for a node...

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              @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              Yesterday, I 've got a mailing from my components' supplier featuring new type of cells, Li-MnO2. The cell has all the features needed for nRF5:

              • 1200mah capacity
              • 1.8-3.0v range
              • low cost (ca. $3)
              • 41,0 x 24,5 x 5,2 dimensions and, importantly
              • up to 120mah peak discharge current.

              The link to manufacturer:
              http://www.fanso-battery.com/Ultra-thin-Li-MnO2-battery-CP502440-3V1200mAh-pd1905.html

              Mhmhmh, a disposable battery that you have to solder I can't see it as a good idea for a node...

              well, 1200mah will last AT LEAST for a year (two in real life). I have no issues resoldering 2 joints once a year, given it gives AAA capacity in a much smaller package

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                NeverDie
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                #1409

                Speaking of batteries, I found only one proper holder for holding two CR2032's in series:
                0_1517497609399_2xCR2032.jpg
                It turns out you pretty much need the plastic carrier to guarantee that the edge of the button cell doesn't short out against the side of the metal holding bracket.

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  Speaking of batteries, I found only one proper holder for holding two CR2032's in series:
                  0_1517497609399_2xCR2032.jpg
                  It turns out you pretty much need the plastic carrier to guarantee that the edge of the button cell doesn't short out against the side of the metal holding bracket.

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                  d00616
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                  @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  Speaking of batteries, I found only one proper holder for holding two CR2032's in series:

                  There are CR2477 (560mAh) or CR2450 (950mAh) 3V cells. Maybe its's better to handle.

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                  • T Toyman

                    Yesterday, I 've got a mailing from my components' supplier featuring new type of cells, Li-MnO2. The cell has all the features needed for nRF5:

                    • 1200mah capacity
                    • 1.8-3.0v range
                    • low cost (ca. $3)
                    • 41,0 x 24,5 x 5,2 dimensions and, importantly
                    • up to 120mah peak discharge current.

                    The link to manufacturer:
                    http://www.fanso-battery.com/Ultra-thin-Li-MnO2-battery-CP502440-3V1200mAh-pd1905.html

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                    NeverDie
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                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                    #1411

                    @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    41,0 x 24,5 x 5,2 dimensions and, importantly

                    Footprint seems kinda large, at least for nodes intended to be small. It trades off length in order to get thin. In contrast, a CR123 is shorter (34.5mm), but thicker (17mm), but can deliver 1.5a continuous (which makes it very tempting for powering a PA):
                    https://www.batteryjunction.com/energizer-cr123a.html
                    On the other hand, when you add the CR123 holder, the length may be comparable.

                    If you decide to try out the fanso, please do let us know how you like it.

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                    • d00616D d00616

                      @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      Speaking of batteries, I found only one proper holder for holding two CR2032's in series:

                      There are CR2477 (560mAh) or CR2450 (950mAh) 3V cells. Maybe its's better to handle.

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                      NeverDie
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                      @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      There are CR2477 (560mAh) or CR2450 (950mAh) 3V cells. Maybe its's better to handle.

                      Good point. I think maybe the only actual justified use of two CR2032's in series is to power the AM612, which requires a voltage of at least 2.7v.

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                        Omemanti
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                        #1413

                        Did someone get an NRF52 working with an ESP8266(ESP32) and successfully connected it to a controller?

                        Since my controller is something stuffed away in a closet, Id like to have a gateway that's positioned more centralized. An ESP+NRF52832 would be a lovely cost-efficient solution.

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                        • O Omemanti

                          Did someone get an NRF52 working with an ESP8266(ESP32) and successfully connected it to a controller?

                          Since my controller is something stuffed away in a closet, Id like to have a gateway that's positioned more centralized. An ESP+NRF52832 would be a lovely cost-efficient solution.

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                          NeverDie
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                          #1414

                          @omemanti said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          Did someone get an NRF52 working with an ESP8266(ESP32) and successfully connected it to a controller?

                          Yes: https://www.openhardware.io/view/491/PA-LNA-nRF52832-ESP-LINK-Shield-for-Wemos-D1-Mini-ESP8266

                          Works great! :)

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                          • NeverDieN NeverDie

                            @omemanti said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            Did someone get an NRF52 working with an ESP8266(ESP32) and successfully connected it to a controller?

                            Yes: https://www.openhardware.io/view/491/PA-LNA-nRF52832-ESP-LINK-Shield-for-Wemos-D1-Mini-ESP8266

                            Works great! :)

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                            Omemanti
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                            #1415

                            @neverdie ah thnx. I'll try it out with my nodemcu+ebyte

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                            • NeverDieN NeverDie

                              @nagelc No, you want to change the values in the MyBoardNRF5.h file instead. For an example, see the source code in: https://www.openhardware.io/view/499/10-years-wireless-PIR-Sensor-on-just-one-set-of-3-AAs#tabs-source

                              So, in your case, you'd want:

                              #define PIN_SERIAL_TX       (10)
                              

                              and, to avoid conflicts, make sure that pin P0.10 isn't defined anywhere in the same .h file as something else already. If it is, you may need to change that as well.

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                              nagelc
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                              #1416

                              @neverdie
                              It worked! I used pin 26 as in your example and now can get the debug messages. Also thanks for the many other NRF5 routines you had in the example.

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                                Omemanti
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                                #1417

                                How can I connect to DEC5 as an I/O when using MyBoardNRF5?

                                The Ebyte Module Datasheet says: 14 DEC5 Input/Output MCU GPIO to it should be possible?

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                                • O Omemanti

                                  How can I connect to DEC5 as an I/O when using MyBoardNRF5?

                                  The Ebyte Module Datasheet says: 14 DEC5 Input/Output MCU GPIO to it should be possible?

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                                  NeverDie
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                                  wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                  #1418

                                  @omemanti Suggest you check the Nordic datasheet on that rather than rely on the Ebyte documentation. IIRC, the DECT pins are not GPIO, but it's worth your double checking the nRF52 datasheet if it's important to you.

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                                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                    @omemanti Suggest you check the Nordic datasheet on that rather than rely on the Ebyte documentation. IIRC, the DECT pins are not GPIO, but it's worth your double checking the nRF52 datasheet if it's important to you.

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                                    Omemanti
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                                    #1419

                                    @neverdie, Indeed, I checked and it was false. well goes to show that late-night prototyping has some disadvantages, my bad, :)

                                    Deleted Following up question..
                                    DK =>Ebyte module
                                    GND(detect) => GND
                                    SWDIO => SWDIO
                                    SWDCLK => SWCLK
                                    VTG => 3,3V
                                    3,3V => 3,3V
                                    GND =>GND

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                                      Nca78
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                                      Has anyone succeeded in programming the WT51822-S4AT module (the cheapest and tiny nrf51822 module on AliExpress) using NRF52 DK ?
                                      I pulled a lot of hair trying to find out what I did wrong with my board, I soldered an adapter to make sure I didn't have problems with faulty jumper wires etc, I reinstalled JLink and Nordic software, in the end I desoldered everything on my board, then the module itself to program it independantly. It always failed and JLink couldn't connect to it. I tried the other spare one I had, same result. I tried the one I'm sure I managed to program long ago with a jlink clone, always the same result.
                                      Then I tried with an old nrf51822 module I bought long ago on AliExpress, and no problem !

                                      Has anyone had similar problems ? Is there something special hardware wise that I should check ?

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                                      • Nca78N Nca78

                                        Has anyone succeeded in programming the WT51822-S4AT module (the cheapest and tiny nrf51822 module on AliExpress) using NRF52 DK ?
                                        I pulled a lot of hair trying to find out what I did wrong with my board, I soldered an adapter to make sure I didn't have problems with faulty jumper wires etc, I reinstalled JLink and Nordic software, in the end I desoldered everything on my board, then the module itself to program it independantly. It always failed and JLink couldn't connect to it. I tried the other spare one I had, same result. I tried the one I'm sure I managed to program long ago with a jlink clone, always the same result.
                                        Then I tried with an old nrf51822 module I bought long ago on AliExpress, and no problem !

                                        Has anyone had similar problems ? Is there something special hardware wise that I should check ?

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                                        NeverDie
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                                        wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                        #1421

                                        @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        Has anyone succeeded in programming the WT51822-S4AT module (the cheapest and tiny nrf51822 module on AliExpress) using NRF52 DK ?

                                        Yes. Haven't had a problem.

                                        A couple things:

                                        1. Are you powering the nRF51 module externally (separate from the nRF52DK)? It's highly advisable that you do, even though by random luck, you can sometimes succeed without it.
                                        2. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                                        I know you know these things, but sometimes we forget to do what we know.

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                                          @Nca78
                                          Do you have the J-Link with only 4 pins? And if so, is the module a QFAAH0? In this konstalation I have the same problem, but with the J-Link V8 and ST-Link V2, the module can be programmed without any problem.

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