nRF5 action!
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They sent me two files, but I have no idea what they are, or how to open them. Maybe someone here recognizes them or can open them?
0_1500890784640_E73-2G4M04S-PCBLIB.PCBLIB
0_1500890793687_E73-2G4M04S-PCB-V1.0.PCBDOCPreview@NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
They sent me two files, but I have no idea what they are, or how to open them. Maybe someone here recognizes them or can open them?
0_1500890784640_E73-2G4M04S-PCBLIB.PCBLIB
0_1500890793687_E73-2G4M04S-PCB-V1.0.PCBDOCPreviewOpening the first file in notepad, I notice that it says, "PCB 6.0 Binary Library File ". I had asked Ebyte for either the module schematic or a reference design using their part, so I'm guessing this is it, in some sort of PCB CAD file.
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@NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
They sent me two files, but I have no idea what they are, or how to open them. Maybe someone here recognizes them or can open them?
0_1500890784640_E73-2G4M04S-PCBLIB.PCBLIB
0_1500890793687_E73-2G4M04S-PCB-V1.0.PCBDOCPreviewOpening the first file in notepad, I notice that it says, "PCB 6.0 Binary Library File ". I had asked Ebyte for either the module schematic or a reference design using their part, so I'm guessing this is it, in some sort of PCB CAD file.
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My bad. I corrected the initial post. Hope is all well now.
I'm going to try this one too when I have time wt51822-s4at
This is the cheapest of all that I found so far and yes it's not a nrf52832 but a nrf51822 - for my purpose this one is very good too. It doesn't have all the pins exposed - only 7 of them but again it should fit my general usage. I'm curious about its performance though. I'll see that when I get my hands on it. This is the official datasheet(or so it seems): https://4tronix.co.uk/picobot2/WT51822-S4AT.pdf
@mtiutiu I have ordered a few of those modules too, the big question is antenna performance as it seems rather small.
It's incredibly cheap and has enough pins to drive most of the MySensors nodes, too bad it's missing the 32K crystal for low power Bluetooth :( -
@mtiutiu I have ordered a few of those modules too, the big question is antenna performance as it seems rather small.
It's incredibly cheap and has enough pins to drive most of the MySensors nodes, too bad it's missing the 32K crystal for low power Bluetooth :(I think that if we use a serial gw based on nrf24l01 pa lna variant should help cover a regular house. At least this is my intent but until then I need to prepare some test environment. And if using nrf5 repeater nodes also should help with coverage - this doesn't work for battery powered nodes I know. But I think there should be some nrf5 nodes that are powered permanently - like actuators for example.
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@NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
They sent me two files, but I have no idea what they are, or how to open them. Maybe someone here recognizes them or can open them?
0_1500890784640_E73-2G4M04S-PCBLIB.PCBLIB
0_1500890793687_E73-2G4M04S-PCB-V1.0.PCBDOCPreviewOpening the first file in notepad, I notice that it says, "PCB 6.0 Binary Library File ". I had asked Ebyte for either the module schematic or a reference design using their part, so I'm guessing this is it, in some sort of PCB CAD file.
Can you upload those files somewhere so that I can download them? I can't do that from the links you pasted here in this forum.
I also found this altium -> kicad online converter but I don't know how well it works.
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Can you upload those files somewhere so that I can download them? I can't do that from the links you pasted here in this forum.
I also found this altium -> kicad online converter but I don't know how well it works.
@mtiutiu said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
Can you upload those files somewhere so that I can download them? I can't do that from the links you pasted here in this forum.
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@mtiutiu said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
Can you upload those files somewhere so that I can download them? I can't do that from the links you pasted here in this forum.
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@NeverDie how many GND pins did you connect ?
It might be a stupid suggestion but maybe all GND pins are not connected together ?@Nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
@NeverDie how many GND pins did you connect ?
It might be a stupid suggestion but maybe all GND pins are not connected together ?Good question. I connected to just one GND pin. However, I just now checked with a DMM, and all the exposed GND pins on the module have continuity to one another. So, based on that, I'm assuming any additional outside connections would be redundant anyway?
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@NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
Is no one else able to download the files either?
From the forum, no. From hightail, yes.
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@NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
Is no one else able to download the files either?
From the forum, no. From hightail, yes.
I don't know which program to open them in though.@mfalkvidd said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
I don't know which program to open them in though
The current theory (see above) is that maybe it's Altium Designer, which has a free viewer.
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One thing I notice on the Ebyte module is that no RESET pin is exposed. Isn't that a bit odd?
Also, there appears to be a typo on the silkscreen, where there are two pin 7's on the silkscreen, but probably one of them is actually pin 6.
@NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
One thing I notice on the Ebyte module is that no RESET pin is exposed. Isn't that a bit odd?
Correction: According to the Nordic datasheet, PO.21, which is exposed on the Ebyte modle, can also serve as the reset pin. I was thrown off because Sparkfun labeled it RESET on their board's silkscreen, not "PO.21".
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@mtiutiu I have ordered a few of those modules too, the big question is antenna performance as it seems rather small.
It's incredibly cheap and has enough pins to drive most of the MySensors nodes, too bad it's missing the 32K crystal for low power Bluetooth :(@Nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
I have ordered a few of those modules too,
Do let us know if either of you are able to program it. After this Ebyte experience, I won't be taking it for granted anymore.
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@Nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
I have ordered a few of those modules too,
Do let us know if either of you are able to program it. After this Ebyte experience, I won't be taking it for granted anymore.
@NeverDie not sure if it applies to this case, but at 18:04 in https://youtu.be/JXQLI-nXqmQ it is mentioned that the chip's identifier needs to be included in some list when the softdevice is compiled (or something along those lines, I am not yet familiar with the vocabulary).
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@NeverDie not sure if it applies to this case, but at 18:04 in https://youtu.be/JXQLI-nXqmQ it is mentioned that the chip's identifier needs to be included in some list when the softdevice is compiled (or something along those lines, I am not yet familiar with the vocabulary).
@mfalkvidd said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
@NeverDie not sure if it applies to this case, but at 18:04 in https://youtu.be/JXQLI-nXqmQ it is mentioned that the chip's identifier needs to be included in some list when the softdevice is compiled (or something along those lines, I am not yet familiar with the vocabulary).
My understanding (which may be wrong) is that in this context a "softdevice" is a veiled reference to the bluetooth stack and/or related bluetooth code, which at present the mysensors code isn't using. In any case, when I programmed both the adafruit and the sparkfun using the mysensors code, I didn't include a chip identifier in a list, nor any soft devices, and it worked anyway.
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I was thinking that maybe the Ebyte module is stuck in some kind of reset mode, but I just now checked pin P0.21 (the reset pin), and it measures high at 3.3v. This is the same as for the Sparkfun board, which I have no trouble programming. Reset is active low.
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@mfalkvidd said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
@NeverDie not sure if it applies to this case, but at 18:04 in https://youtu.be/JXQLI-nXqmQ it is mentioned that the chip's identifier needs to be included in some list when the softdevice is compiled (or something along those lines, I am not yet familiar with the vocabulary).
My understanding (which may be wrong) is that in this context a "softdevice" is a veiled reference to the bluetooth stack and/or related bluetooth code, which at present the mysensors code isn't using. In any case, when I programmed both the adafruit and the sparkfun using the mysensors code, I didn't include a chip identifier in a list, nor any soft devices, and it worked anyway.
@NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
My understanding (which may be wrong) is that in this context a "softdevice" is a veiled reference to the bluetooth stack and/or related bluetooth code, which at present the mysensors code isn't using. In any case, when I programmed both the adafruit and the sparkfun using the mysensors code, I didn't include a chip identifier in a list, nor any soft devices, and it worked anyway.
I haven't tested MySensors with a present SoftDevice. The drivers/NVM code (EEPROM emulation) conflicts with the DFU bootloader.
It's better to see the SoftDevice as an Operating System providing BLE functionality and some hardware abstraction, while MySensors is directly ported to the hardware.
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I was thinking that maybe the Ebyte module is stuck in some kind of reset mode, but I just now checked pin P0.21 (the reset pin), and it measures high at 3.3v. This is the same as for the Sparkfun board, which I have no trouble programming. Reset is active low.
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@Toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
@NeverDie stupid question: did you try to power it NOT from DK board and vise versa?
Thanks for the suggestion! So far I've tried powering it from a USB 3.3v source (which is how I successfully programmed the adafruit and sparkfun boards), but I'll now try powering it from the DK and see if it makes a difference.
By the way, I found an alternate way to confirm that the board is using the built-in LDO rather than the DCDC converter. DEC4 is the output of the LDO, and it measures 1.3v (which is also the expected voltage output by the LDO if it were active). DCC is the output of the DCDC converter, and it measures 0.0v. So, empirical confirmation of what you all inferred earlier. :)
