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  • NeverDieN Offline
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    NeverDie
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    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
    #543

    This is strange: now when I do the timed sleep on the infor-link module, it shows a current drain of about 60ua, whereas yesterday it was around 6ua. Maybe I somehow damaged it by connecting a couple of the input pins (A2 and A4) to Vcc? I wouldn't think so, though, because the datasheet says it should be safe to Vcc + 0.3v.

    I have one unused infor-link module left. I'll try wiring it up, but without the input pins this time, and measure it. I'm wondering now whether the sleep current will measure out to be 60ua, or 6ua.

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    • NeverDieN NeverDie

      @rmtucker
      Is there a mysensors demo sketch that involves i2c? I could try it on my end, though I expect I'd probably get the same as you.

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      d00616
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      @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      Is there a mysensors demo sketch that involves i2c? I could try it on my end, though I expect I'd probably get the same as you.

      I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

      @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      I have one unused infor-link module left. I'll try wiring it up, but without the input pins this time, and measure it. I'm wondering now whether the sleep current will measure out to be 60ua, or 6ua

      With the nRF51 there is an bug, after using the debug interface the current consumption is higher until reset.

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      • d00616D d00616

        @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

        Is there a mysensors demo sketch that involves i2c? I could try it on my end, though I expect I'd probably get the same as you.

        I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

        @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

        I have one unused infor-link module left. I'll try wiring it up, but without the input pins this time, and measure it. I'm wondering now whether the sleep current will measure out to be 60ua, or 6ua

        With the nRF51 there is an bug, after using the debug interface the current consumption is higher until reset.

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        wrote on last edited by
        #545

        @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

        I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

        Yes But it seems to have trouble reading sensors.
        It has been mentioned on sandeepmistry github.

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          This is strange: now when I do the timed sleep on the infor-link module, it shows a current drain of about 60ua, whereas yesterday it was around 6ua. Maybe I somehow damaged it by connecting a couple of the input pins (A2 and A4) to Vcc? I wouldn't think so, though, because the datasheet says it should be safe to Vcc + 0.3v.

          I have one unused infor-link module left. I'll try wiring it up, but without the input pins this time, and measure it. I'm wondering now whether the sleep current will measure out to be 60ua, or 6ua.

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          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
          #546

          @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

          This is strange: now when I do the timed sleep on the infor-link module, it shows a current drain of about 60ua, whereas yesterday it was around 6ua. Maybe I somehow damaged it by connecting a couple of the input pins (A2 and A4) to Vcc? I wouldn't think so, though, because the datasheet says it should be safe to Vcc + 0.3v.

          I have one unused infor-link module left. I'll try wiring it up, but without the input pins this time, and measure it. I'm wondering now whether the sleep current will measure out to be 60ua, or 6ua.

          The answer is.... neither. This time, with a fresh infor-link module, it measured at about 16ua.

          However, I'm guessing there's quite a lot of noise involved, because this time I noticed I could change the reading just by moving my hand closer or further away from the infor-link module. So, I may have to scope this to see what's going on.

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          • rmtuckerR rmtucker

            @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

            Yes But it seems to have trouble reading sensors.
            It has been mentioned on sandeepmistry github.

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            #547

            @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

            Yes But it seems to have trouble reading sensors.
            It has been mentioned on sandeepmistry github.

            I have found this issue: https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/issues/180

            Is this yours?

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            • d00616D d00616

              @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

              Yes But it seems to have trouble reading sensors.
              It has been mentioned on sandeepmistry github.

              I have found this issue: https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/issues/180

              Is this yours?

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              #548

              @d00616
              No not mine but that is the issue i was talking about.
              When connecting DS3231 RTC i get the same as that guy mentions.
              When connecting HTU21D the readings are all over the place.

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                This is strange: now when I do the timed sleep on the infor-link module, it shows a current drain of about 60ua, whereas yesterday it was around 6ua. Maybe I somehow damaged it by connecting a couple of the input pins (A2 and A4) to Vcc? I wouldn't think so, though, because the datasheet says it should be safe to Vcc + 0.3v.

                I have one unused infor-link module left. I'll try wiring it up, but without the input pins this time, and measure it. I'm wondering now whether the sleep current will measure out to be 60ua, or 6ua.

                The answer is.... neither. This time, with a fresh infor-link module, it measured at about 16ua.

                However, I'm guessing there's quite a lot of noise involved, because this time I noticed I could change the reading just by moving my hand closer or further away from the infor-link module. So, I may have to scope this to see what's going on.

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                wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                #549

                @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                This is strange: now when I do the timed sleep on the infor-link module, it shows a current drain of about 60ua, whereas yesterday it was around 6ua. Maybe I somehow damaged it by connecting a couple of the input pins (A2 and A4) to Vcc? I wouldn't think so, though, because the datasheet says it should be safe to Vcc + 0.3v.

                I have one unused infor-link module left. I'll try wiring it up, but without the input pins this time, and measure it. I'm wondering now whether the sleep current will measure out to be 60ua, or 6ua.

                The answer is.... neither. This time, with a fresh infor-link module, it measured at about 16ua.

                However, I'm guessing there's quite a lot of noise involved, because this time I noticed I could change the reading just by moving my hand closer or further away from the infor-link module. So, I may have to scope this to see what's going on.

                So, I decided to try running it from a 10F 2.7v supercap and see how long it lasts. It reports its voltage once every 5 minutes. I'm using Domoticz to log the values and graph them.

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                • d00616D d00616

                  @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

                  Yes But it seems to have trouble reading sensors.
                  It has been mentioned on sandeepmistry github.

                  I have found this issue: https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/issues/180

                  Is this yours?

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                  wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                  #550

                  @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
                  

                  I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

                  Yes But it seems to have trouble reading sensors.
                  It has been mentioned on sandeepmistry github.

                  I have found this issue: https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/issues/180

                  Is this yours?

                  Does it rest entirely on Sandeep's shoulders as to if/when it gets fixed? I'm trying to understand how big/small the workforce is.

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                  • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                    @d00616
                    No not mine but that is the issue i was talking about.
                    When connecting DS3231 RTC i get the same as that guy mentions.
                    When connecting HTU21D the readings are all over the place.

                    NeverDieN Offline
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                    NeverDie
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                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                    #551

                    @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    @d00616
                    No not mine but that is the issue i was talking about.
                    When connecting DS3231 RTC i get the same as that guy mentions.
                    When connecting HTU21D the readings are all over the place.

                    @scalz Have you encountered any I2C problems in your work on Aeos? I seem to recall you have a TH sensor in it.

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                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                      @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:
                      

                      I have used I2C with an display and u8g2 without any problem.

                      Yes But it seems to have trouble reading sensors.
                      It has been mentioned on sandeepmistry github.

                      I have found this issue: https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/issues/180

                      Is this yours?

                      Does it rest entirely on Sandeep's shoulders as to if/when it gets fixed? I'm trying to understand how big/small the workforce is.

                      rmtuckerR Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #552

                      @NeverDie
                      Actually i wonder if development has stopped?
                      no new commits in three months?

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                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                        @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        @d00616
                        No not mine but that is the issue i was talking about.
                        When connecting DS3231 RTC i get the same as that guy mentions.
                        When connecting HTU21D the readings are all over the place.

                        @scalz Have you encountered any I2C problems in your work on Aeos? I seem to recall you have a TH sensor in it.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #553

                        @NeverDie
                        Trouble is the aeos is using nrf52 not nrf51.

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                        • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                          @NeverDie
                          Trouble is the aeos is using nrf52 not nrf51.

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                          NeverDie
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                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                          #554

                          @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          @NeverDie
                          Trouble is the aeos is using nrf52 not nrf51.

                          At least it would be something, rather than nothing. Wouldn't you rather be on nRF52 anyway? It has advantages. (I say that even though I do have some nRF51's on order, but only just because they're small and cheap).

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                          • NeverDieN NeverDie

                            @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            @NeverDie
                            Trouble is the aeos is using nrf52 not nrf51.

                            At least it would be something, rather than nothing. Wouldn't you rather be on nRF52 anyway? It has advantages. (I say that even though I do have some nRF51's on order, but only just because they're small and cheap).

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                            #555

                            @NeverDie
                            yes but it would take 4-6weeks and i was impatient so thought i would start with what i could get.
                            But it seems it does not work on either looking at some of the other issues on sandeeps github.

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                            • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                              @NeverDie
                              yes but it would take 4-6weeks and i was impatient so thought i would start with what i could get.
                              But it seems it does not work on either looking at some of the other issues on sandeeps github.

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                              NeverDie
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                              wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                              #556

                              @rmtucker
                              Hmmmm... Maybe this explains why I didn't notice any MySensor's example demo code that used I2C.

                              On the other hand, I wouldn't think the gap can be all that big if d00616 is able to use I2C for display purposes.

                              Still, that by itself doesn't get you there.

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                              • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                @NeverDie
                                yes but it would take 4-6weeks and i was impatient so thought i would start with what i could get.
                                But it seems it does not work on either looking at some of the other issues on sandeeps github.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #557

                                @rmtucker

                                Bummer. I guess you still have anticimex's suggestion though of the bit-bang workaround, if you're so inclined. If you're able to get that to work, please do post to let us know.

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                                  wrote on last edited by scalz
                                  #558

                                  @NeverDie i have no problem with my aeos (nrf52) and i2c so far. only tested the onboard sensors.

                                  agree, in case, you can use a software i2c lib.

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                                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                    #559

                                    On the 10F supercap, the infor-link module was losing about 0.025v per hour, and that included it reporting its voltage every 5 minutes. So, I've hooked it up to a mini solar panel now so that the supercap will charge during daytime, and with that it should run in perpetuity. :)

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      On the 10F supercap, the infor-link module was losing about 0.025v per hour, and that included it reporting its voltage every 5 minutes. So, I've hooked it up to a mini solar panel now so that the supercap will charge during daytime, and with that it should run in perpetuity. :)

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                                      @NeverDie nice results! What kind of overcharge protection are you using?

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                                      • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                        @NeverDie nice results! What kind of overcharge protection are you using?

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                                        @mfalkvidd said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        @NeverDie nice results! What kind of overcharge protection are you using?

                                        A 2.7v LDO. Very low quiescent current of just 1ua.

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                                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                          @mfalkvidd said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                          @NeverDie nice results! What kind of overcharge protection are you using?

                                          A 2.7v LDO. Very low quiescent current of just 1ua.

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                                          @NeverDie thanks. My first supercap is on the way so I'm looking forward to build something with it.

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