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  • NeverDieN NeverDie

    Well, setting the pinmode to OUTPUT and then digitalwriting it to LOW seems to help considerably--at least when it's not connected to anything.

    [Edit: Setting it to HIGH also helps similarly.]

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    @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

    Well, setting the pinmode to OUTPUT and then digitalwriting it to LOW seems to help considerably--at least when it's not connected to anything.
    [Edit: Setting it to HIGH also helps similarly.]

    Thank's. I check this after I fixed the Radio.

    Actually, I have this board running. I measure a voltage of 0.13mV=6,6µA at the shunt with a simple sleep sketch. When I switch two pins into INPUT_PULLUP, then I measure 0.15mV==7,5µA.

    When I switch on the LED then I measure 12.75mV == 0,6375mA, One pin in OUTPUT_H1H0 mode. With LED off I measure 0.15mV==7,5µA.

    My MCU is nRF52832 QFAAB0 1615AX

    P.S.: I have no documentation about the board. When I measure the boards current, then I have an shunt factor of 22,5. I think calculating with 20 is ok.

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    • d00616D d00616

      @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      Well, setting the pinmode to OUTPUT and then digitalwriting it to LOW seems to help considerably--at least when it's not connected to anything.
      [Edit: Setting it to HIGH also helps similarly.]

      Thank's. I check this after I fixed the Radio.

      Actually, I have this board running. I measure a voltage of 0.13mV=6,6µA at the shunt with a simple sleep sketch. When I switch two pins into INPUT_PULLUP, then I measure 0.15mV==7,5µA.

      When I switch on the LED then I measure 12.75mV == 0,6375mA, One pin in OUTPUT_H1H0 mode. With LED off I measure 0.15mV==7,5µA.

      My MCU is nRF52832 QFAAB0 1615AX

      P.S.: I have no documentation about the board. When I measure the boards current, then I have an shunt factor of 22,5. I think calculating with 20 is ok.

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      wrote on last edited by NeverDie
      #739

      @d00616
      Thanks! I just now ordered one of your boards so that in the future we can share a common platform for comparing numbers. :)
      https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NRF52832-Mini-Development-Board-Gold-Core-board-Wireless-Bluetooth-Transceiver-Module/32798618219.html?spm=2114.search0204.3.1.GUmybP&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10130_5490020_10068_5430020_5410020_10307_10137_10060_10155_10154_10333_10334_10056_5370011_10335_10055_10336_10054_10059_10332_100031_10099_5400020_10103_10102_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10324_10325_5380020_10326_5390020_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10312_10313_10314_10316_10078_10079_10073_5420011-10332_10333,searchweb201603_5,ppcSwitch_4_ppcChannel&btsid=78a27a2f-4aa5-49a0-a538-502a2c86d8f2&algo_expid=598ae4bb-6401-4529-89ad-6e8d8a90af12-0&algo_pvid=598ae4bb-6401-4529-89ad-6e8d8a90af12&transAbTest=ae803_3

      [By the way, I did my measurements on an Ebyte nRF52832 module]

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        #740

        in that case, you need to set it as a floating input i think, like it's generally at reset.
        In datasheet, section 20 (p111), is explained how works the GPIO. You have a Bit for disconnecting it. See the PIN_CNF[n] registers. For instance, p.140, you can see how it looks for the P0.10, and the Bit 1.
        This should do the job..

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          @d00616
          Thanks! I just now ordered one of your boards so that in the future we can share a common platform for comparing numbers. :)
          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NRF52832-Mini-Development-Board-Gold-Core-board-Wireless-Bluetooth-Transceiver-Module/32798618219.html?spm=2114.search0204.3.1.GUmybP&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10130_5490020_10068_5430020_5410020_10307_10137_10060_10155_10154_10333_10334_10056_5370011_10335_10055_10336_10054_10059_10332_100031_10099_5400020_10103_10102_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10324_10325_5380020_10326_5390020_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10312_10313_10314_10316_10078_10079_10073_5420011-10332_10333,searchweb201603_5,ppcSwitch_4_ppcChannel&btsid=78a27a2f-4aa5-49a0-a538-502a2c86d8f2&algo_expid=598ae4bb-6401-4529-89ad-6e8d8a90af12-0&algo_pvid=598ae4bb-6401-4529-89ad-6e8d8a90af12&transAbTest=ae803_3

          [By the way, I did my measurements on an Ebyte nRF52832 module]

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          @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

          Thanks! I just now ordered one of your boards so that in the future we can share a common platform for comparing numbers.

          Ok. I have measured my Ebyte with the same sketch and in the µA range of my VC165 multimeter. Sleep current is 9.9µA with two ports in INPUT_PULLUP and one Port in OUTPUT_H0H1 mode. (b.t.w. this module costs actually 3,82€)

          @scalz said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

          in that case, you need to set it as a floating input i think, like it's generally at reset.
          In datasheet, section 20 (p111), is explained how works the GPIO. You have a Bit for disconnecting it. See the PIN_CNF[n] registers. For instance, p.140, you can see how it looks for the P0.10, and the Bit 1.
          This should do the job..

          Should I add a DISCONNECTED mode to hwPinMode()?

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          • d00616D d00616

            @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            Thanks! I just now ordered one of your boards so that in the future we can share a common platform for comparing numbers.

            Ok. I have measured my Ebyte with the same sketch and in the µA range of my VC165 multimeter. Sleep current is 9.9µA with two ports in INPUT_PULLUP and one Port in OUTPUT_H0H1 mode. (b.t.w. this module costs actually 3,82€)

            @scalz said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            in that case, you need to set it as a floating input i think, like it's generally at reset.
            In datasheet, section 20 (p111), is explained how works the GPIO. You have a Bit for disconnecting it. See the PIN_CNF[n] registers. For instance, p.140, you can see how it looks for the P0.10, and the Bit 1.
            This should do the job..

            Should I add a DISCONNECTED mode to hwPinMode()?

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            wrote on last edited by NeverDie
            #742

            @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            Sleep current is 9.9µA with two ports in INPUT_PULLUP and one Port in OUTPUT_H0H1 mode....

            Ah, maybe that's part of the difference. I was doing just:

            pinMode(ALPHA_PIN, INPUT)
            pinMode(BETA_PIN, OUTPUT)
            

            because that's how I would have done it on an Arduino. Should we instead always use INPUT_PULLUP and OUTPUT_H0H1 instead?

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            • NeverDieN NeverDie

              @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              Sleep current is 9.9µA with two ports in INPUT_PULLUP and one Port in OUTPUT_H0H1 mode....

              Ah, maybe that's part of the difference. I was doing just:

              pinMode(ALPHA_PIN, INPUT)
              pinMode(BETA_PIN, OUTPUT)
              

              because that's how I would have done it on an Arduino. Should we instead always use INPUT_PULLUP and OUTPUT_H0H1 instead?

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              #743

              @NeverDie
              Should be

              hwPinMode(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR, INPUT_PULLUP);
              

              According to NRF5 platform

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                #744

                Thanks! Somehow didn't remember that.

                So, as suggested by @scalz what is some example code that can be used to "disconnect" the pin later?

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  Thanks! Somehow didn't remember that.

                  So, as suggested by @scalz what is some example code that can be used to "disconnect" the pin later?

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                  #745

                  @NeverDie
                  He has not added that facility yet,i think he asked you if you wanted it adding to the code?

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                  • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                    @NeverDie
                    He has not added that facility yet,i think he asked you if you wanted it adding to the code?

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                    @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    if you wanted it adding to the code?

                    Definitely!

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                    • scalzS Offline
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                      #747

                      for unused pins, it should be floating, not pullup. set the pin register you need to 0x02.
                      Something like that
                      NRF_GPIO->PIN_CNF[ulPin] = 0x02;
                      that will put pin in same state like it's on reset. Everything disabled/default, floating, with disconnect bit set.
                      (see datasheet gpio).

                      @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      Should I add a DISCONNECTED mode to hwPinMode()?

                      make sense to have it for input too.. i agree :simple_smile:

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                        #748

                        Maybe add:
                        OUTPUT_D0D1 -> Disconnected 0, Disconnected 1
                        or similar to your list as another easy way to effectuate the disconnect?

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                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                          #749

                          It finally makes sense now as to why there were all those "disconnected" choices among the various OUTPUT options. In my case, for controlling whether the solar panel is connected or disconnected, choosing OUTPUT_S0D1 works perfectly. :)

                          So, I suppose another way to disconnect an input pin would be to redefine it as an OUTPUT pin with a disconnect state, and then immediately put it into the disconnected state.

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                          • d00616D d00616

                            @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            Yes being able to change the prescaler dynamically would help a great deal as 125ms / 582.542 hours is not really useful for most applications with a 250ms overrun.

                            The sleep() function is now more precise for sleeping <512s:

                            https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/909

                            The PR is waiting for merge.

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                            @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            Yes being able to change the prescaler dynamically would help a great deal as 125ms / 582.542 hours is not really useful for most applications with a 250ms overrun.

                            The sleep() function is now more precise for sleeping <512s:

                            https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/909

                            The PR is waiting for merge.

                            Hmm just tried the latest commit and it is giving me 306ms for sleep(10000).
                            Something not quite right.

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                            • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                              @d00616 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                              @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                              Yes being able to change the prescaler dynamically would help a great deal as 125ms / 582.542 hours is not really useful for most applications with a 250ms overrun.

                              The sleep() function is now more precise for sleeping <512s:

                              https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/909

                              The PR is waiting for merge.

                              Hmm just tried the latest commit and it is giving me 306ms for sleep(10000).
                              Something not quite right.

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                              @rmtucker
                              How are you measuring how long it's sleeping?

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                              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                @rmtucker
                                How are you measuring how long it's sleeping?

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                                @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                @rmtucker
                                How are you measuring how long it's sleeping?

                                Just using hwMillis() before and after sleep and subtracting one from the other.
                                It was just reading + 250ms until @d00616 commited some changes a few hours ago.

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                                  @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  @rmtucker
                                  How are you measuring how long it's sleeping?

                                  Just using hwMillis() before and after sleep and subtracting one from the other.
                                  It was just reading + 250ms until @d00616 commited some changes a few hours ago.

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                                  something wrong in here:-

                                  // Calculate sleep time and prescaler
                                  		if (ms<512000) {
                                  			// prescaler 0, 30.517 μs resolution -> max 512 s sleep
                                  			MY_HW_RTC->PRESCALER =  0;
                                  			// Set compare register to 1/30.517 µs to garantee event triggering
                                  			// A minimum of 2 ticks must be guaranteed
                                  			// (1000/32768)<<12 == 125
                                  			MY_HW_RTC->CC[0] = max((ms<<12 / 125), 2);
                                  		} else {
                                  			// 8 Hz -> max 582.542 hours sleep.
                                  			MY_HW_RTC->PRESCALER = 4095;
                                  			// Set compare register to 1/125ms
                                  			// A minimum of 2 ticks must be guaranteed
                                  			MY_HW_RTC->CC[0] = max((ms / 125), 2);
                                  		}
                                  
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                                  • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                    @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    @rmtucker
                                    How are you measuring how long it's sleeping?

                                    Just using hwMillis() before and after sleep and subtracting one from the other.
                                    It was just reading + 250ms until @d00616 commited some changes a few hours ago.

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                                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                    #754

                                    @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    @rmtucker
                                    How are you measuring how long it's sleeping?

                                    Just using hwMillis() before and after sleep and subtracting one from the other.
                                    It was just reading + 250ms until @d00616 commited some changes a few hours ago.

                                    I thought so. The point being: doesn't millis stop when you're deep sleeping? Well, at least on an Arduino it does. Not sure what it does on the nRF5.

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      @rmtucker
                                      How are you measuring how long it's sleeping?

                                      Just using hwMillis() before and after sleep and subtracting one from the other.
                                      It was just reading + 250ms until @d00616 commited some changes a few hours ago.

                                      I thought so. The point being: doesn't millis stop when you're deep sleeping? Well, at least on an Arduino it does. Not sure what it does on the nRF5.

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                                      wrote on last edited by rmtucker
                                      #755

                                      @NeverDie
                                      No the nrf5 has a rtc.(Real time Counter)
                                      It can even keep time while sleeping.(just found this out myself!).
                                      That is a great leap forward on the arduino.

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                                      • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                        @NeverDie
                                        No the nrf5 has a rtc.(Real time Counter)
                                        It can even keep time while sleeping.(just found this out myself!).
                                        That is a great leap forward on the arduino.

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                                        Try it just print the time out then put it to sleep for a minute then print the time out again.

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                                        • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                          Try it just print the time out then put it to sleep for a minute then print the time out again.

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                                          #757

                                          The problem must be this line but i don't speak nrf5.:frowning:

                                          			// (1000/32768)<<12 == 125
                                          			MY_HW_RTC->CC[0] = max((ms<<12 / 125), 2);```
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