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$8 Lamp (Outlet) "Smart Plug" Module

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    DanielD
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    @petewill
    mm, I will install one of these in my PC and I will buy a ethernet bord, and make a gateway ethernet.
    But what I do not understand is How the Web Site will send a rf signal from arduino
    Okay I know I should connect the ethernet bord in arduino and rf transmisor, but how do
    sensor received this signal I know I will put rf receiver inside.
    But the code of ethernet gateway doesn't have nothing about the transmissor.
    If you don't understand something ask me.
    Thx

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      petewill
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      @DanielD said:

      But the code of ethernet gateway doesn't have nothing about the transmissor.

      Right. That's where the controller comes in. I use Vera so when I press the on button in the Vera interface it sends the command through the gateway to the sensor (smart outlet).

      If you are try do it cheaply you may want to look into openhab. I haven't used it but I know it runs on a raspberry pi.

      My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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        DanielD
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        @petewill

        Hmm,Okay
        I will try make a device type Vera because,in my country doesn't exists.
        If I buy at site and ask to ship me Will cost very expensive, therefore I try make a device similar to vera :/
        Could you help me?
        Thx

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          @petewill

          Hmm,Okay
          I will try make a device type Vera because,in my country doesn't exists.
          If I buy at site and ask to ship me Will cost very expensive, therefore I try make a device similar to vera :/
          Could you help me?
          Thx

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          andriej
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          @DanielD just get yourself an raspberry.

          :-)

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            DanielD
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            @andriej
            I have a raspberry, but I think use only arudino.

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              petewill
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              @DanielD said:

              therefore I try make a device similar to vera :/
              Could you help me?

              Unfortunately I don't know how to do that. The best thing I can suggest is to use one of the existing controllers. If you already have a raspberry pi there is free software for it. Try one of those. That way you don't have to recreate anything.

              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                @petewill

                Hmm,
                Okay, but I think I don't understand is how I will do the communication between getway ethernet and another device.

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                  petewill
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                  @DanielD said:

                  I don't understand is how I will do the communication between getway ethernet and another device.

                  You probably want to check out this: http://www.mysensors.org/about/ and this: http://www.openhab.org/

                  It will will take some learning and I suggest you start out small. See if you can get OpenHab up and running first. When you understand that you can start using MySensors. I had my Vera for a few months before I started learning MySensors. It was helpful to learn the controller before MySensors.

                  My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                    almj
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                    Thank you very much for detailed description!
                    But I cannot understand how to send commands from OpenHab to turn relay on and off. Please direct me.
                    After a long time I can finally get the messages from sensors via serial connection, but not the other way.
                    Cheers!

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                      Thank you very much for detailed description!
                      But I cannot understand how to send commands from OpenHab to turn relay on and off. Please direct me.
                      After a long time I can finally get the messages from sensors via serial connection, but not the other way.
                      Cheers!

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                      petewill
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                      @almj I use Vera as my controller so I'm not sure how to set up OpenHab. I know there are some instructions for setting it up here on the forum. If you're still stuck you may get better responses by posting to a new topic. Sorry I can't be more help.

                      My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                        bytedeez
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                        Is it really that difficult or expensive to get old chargers?
                        I found 10 for $10.99 on ebay.
                        :stuck_out_tongue:

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                          Is it really that difficult or expensive to get old chargers?
                          I found 10 for $10.99 on ebay.
                          :stuck_out_tongue:

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                          petewill
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                          @bytedeez Nah, it's not that hard or expensive. It's always nice to get them free when you can though :)

                          My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                            Douglas
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                            Hello,

                            Which is connected to the relay in the diagram???

                            Thanks,

                            Douglas (Brasil)

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                              Hello,

                              Which is connected to the relay in the diagram???

                              Thanks,

                              Douglas (Brasil)

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                              petewill
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                              @Douglas I just used the standard wiring from the build page here: http://www.mysensors.org/build/relay

                              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                sundberg84
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                                Hi @petewill!
                                I made this :) Great video :+1:

                                I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                                In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                                Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                                Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                                and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  Hi @petewill!
                                  I made this :) Great video :+1:

                                  I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                                  In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                                  Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                                  Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                                  and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

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                                  @sundberg84 said:

                                  Hi @petewill!
                                  I made this :) Great video :+1:

                                  I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                                  This could also be a power or a wiring issue. But, the antenna is an easy modification so it wouldn't hurt to try this first. Another test is to move the device closer to your gateway. If it still stops after 5-6 times then it probably isn't communication issues.

                                  In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                                  Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                                  Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                                  No, I left the shielding on the wire. Sorry, I should have specified that.

                                  and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

                                  I think 3.28 inches is 83.312 millimeters (at least that's what google says it is).

                                  My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                    AWI
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                                    I have these lockups all the time and have not been able to get rid of them. I tried:

                                    • separated power supplies
                                    • capacitors
                                    • shielding

                                    Most probably (in my case) is the spike introduced by the coil of the relay. This somehow puts the radio in a sleep (or half dead) state. By moving away from mechanical to triac (ssd) 'relays' I was finaly able to solve it. If you find a solution please post.

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                                      @AWI Hmm, ok... will give it a try and report back if i find anything...

                                      It seems to be both range and spikes? The sensor works great without anything connected to 240v out but as soon as i connect anything like a lamp it fails within 5 on/off. Also when i move it close to the gw but then atleast it works without any 240v connected.

                                      The SSD relays, is that something like this?
                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-5V-DC-1-Channel-Solid-State-Relay-Board-module-High-Level-fuse-for-arduino-/191563980850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2c9a1a6032

                                      Any downsides with SSR relays?

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        @AWI Hmm, ok... will give it a try and report back if i find anything...

                                        It seems to be both range and spikes? The sensor works great without anything connected to 240v out but as soon as i connect anything like a lamp it fails within 5 on/off. Also when i move it close to the gw but then atleast it works without any 240v connected.

                                        The SSD relays, is that something like this?
                                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-5V-DC-1-Channel-Solid-State-Relay-Board-module-High-Level-fuse-for-arduino-/191563980850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2c9a1a6032

                                        Any downsides with SSR relays?

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                                        AWI
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                                        @sundberg84 I have never found these before. Sounds like an interesting option. Made myself boards like these
                                        The 'downside' of these is that there can be a leak voltage when the output is left open.

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                                          sundberg84
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                                          @AWI Your link didnt work (typo)
                                          Ill give these a try and let post if they are any good.

                                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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