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  • rozpruwaczR rozpruwacz

    nice :) what about range of the nRF52832 ? is it better than nfr24l01+ with pcb antenna ? I had problems with nrf24 and now I'm trying with rfm69. From first tests I can tell that it has much better range - but it is slightly larger and requires an antenna ...

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    @rozpruwacz said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

    is it better than nfr24l01+ with pcb antenna ?

    yes

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      Assembled and tested final version of LoRa Leak Detector:
      0_1517532798060_lora_leak_detector_v15.jpg
      Thanks to an external watchdog (TPL5010), it consumes very little current while sleeping. Also, the external watchdog will reboot the pro mini should it ever become unresponsive, so, in addition, it should be highly reliable.

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      • NeverDieN NeverDie

        Assembled and tested final version of LoRa Leak Detector:
        0_1517532798060_lora_leak_detector_v15.jpg
        Thanks to an external watchdog (TPL5010), it consumes very little current while sleeping. Also, the external watchdog will reboot the pro mini should it ever become unresponsive, so, in addition, it should be highly reliable.

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        @neverdie said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

        TPL5010

        That's a really nice IC, I was looking for something like that but it seems I didn't search with the right keywords.
        Thank you for sharing the discovery !

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          #378

          Made a simple LoRa node using my CNC:
          0_1517982209204_lora_node.jpg

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            #379

            Upgraded it to include two AA batteries and a DS18B20 temp sensor. Future versions will tap the I2C pins on the pro mini, so those will have better TH sensors.

            0_1518188724144_lora_temp.jpg
            Range is noticeably better than when I was running the LoRa from just a breadboard. :)

            I'm tempted to use a double sided PCB and give the LoRa a more proper and really big ground plane to see if that boosts range even more (at the same power level).

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            • NeverDieN NeverDie

              Upgraded it to include two AA batteries and a DS18B20 temp sensor. Future versions will tap the I2C pins on the pro mini, so those will have better TH sensors.

              0_1518188724144_lora_temp.jpg
              Range is noticeably better than when I was running the LoRa from just a breadboard. :)

              I'm tempted to use a double sided PCB and give the LoRa a more proper and really big ground plane to see if that boosts range even more (at the same power level).

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              @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

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              • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

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                @zboblamont said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

                I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain a bit more what that would be?

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  @zboblamont said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                  @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

                  I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain a bit more what that would be?

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                  @neverdie Sure.
                  A quarter wave on an ideal Ground Plane mimics a half wave, the GP is sort of like a mirror in radio terms for the 1/4 above it....
                  Ergo two identical 1/4 waves, one attached to RF feed the other attached to ground, does the same thing, although in fact slightly better...

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                  • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                    @neverdie Sure.
                    A quarter wave on an ideal Ground Plane mimics a half wave, the GP is sort of like a mirror in radio terms for the 1/4 above it....
                    Ergo two identical 1/4 waves, one attached to RF feed the other attached to ground, does the same thing, although in fact slightly better...

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                    #383

                    @zboblamont So, what you are advocating is a dipole antenna? i.e. something notionally similar to this:
                    https://www.openhardware.io/view/277/ESP8266-RFM69HW-gateway-with-dipole-antenna
                    At least, that is what it sounds like to me.

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                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                      @zboblamont So, what you are advocating is a dipole antenna? i.e. something notionally similar to this:
                      https://www.openhardware.io/view/277/ESP8266-RFM69HW-gateway-with-dipole-antenna
                      At least, that is what it sounds like to me.

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                      @neverdie Not advocating a dipole as such, only pointing to an alternative to your suggested ground plane at 90 degrees to the base of the antenna. Electrically, the second half of the dipole IS the ground plane, and vice versa.
                      With such physically small boards, it is virtually impossible to achieve the ideal ground plane unless the wavelength is very small, I suggested a duplicate helical tied to GND in the opposite direction to your antenna essentially accomplishes the same thing.

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                        #385

                        Interestingly, I just now checked, and it appears my LoRa leak detectors have even better range still. Maybe it's because GND completely encircles the PCB along all four edges. This may cause me to rethink the design of the gateway node, which up to now has been much smaller than the leak detectors....

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                          #386

                          0_1518791218187_15187911952321497205782.jpg

                          Today some maintenance on my GW.

                          Added a ground wire for debug and also corrected a buildmisstske and grounded the case.

                          And relocated (let's hope for the best) it to my new HA DIY board...

                          0_1518792236611_15187922282851484593467.jpg

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            #387

                            And there was the first failing sensor.... But was it because I changed the location on the gw? Nope... I had a temp/hum right beside the gw which I pushed so it fell on the floor...

                            0_1518793080330_Screenshot_20180216-155624.png

                            Radio cap de-attashed and sensor died.

                            Easy fix and now back in operation.

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            • sundberg84S sundberg84

                              0_1518791218187_15187911952321497205782.jpg

                              Today some maintenance on my GW.

                              Added a ground wire for debug and also corrected a buildmisstske and grounded the case.

                              And relocated (let's hope for the best) it to my new HA DIY board...

                              0_1518792236611_15187922282851484593467.jpg

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                              #388

                              @sundberg84 Sorry for the stupid question, but what holds your WEB/MAIL black box in place?

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                              • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                And there was the first failing sensor.... But was it because I changed the location on the gw? Nope... I had a temp/hum right beside the gw which I pushed so it fell on the floor...

                                0_1518793080330_Screenshot_20180216-155624.png

                                Radio cap de-attashed and sensor died.

                                Easy fix and now back in operation.

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                                @sundberg84 said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                                And there was the first failing sensor.... But was it because I changed the location on the gw? Nope... I had a temp/hum right beside the gw which I pushed so it fell on the floor...

                                You meant "the first FALLING sensor" :sweat_smile:

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                                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                  @sundberg84 Sorry for the stupid question, but what holds your WEB/MAIL black box in place?

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                                  #390

                                  @neverdie said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                                  @sundberg84 Sorry for the stupid question, but what holds your WEB/MAIL black box in place?

                                  Screws.
                                  0_1518797972773_IMG_20180216_171855.jpg

                                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                    0_1518791218187_15187911952321497205782.jpg

                                    Today some maintenance on my GW.

                                    Added a ground wire for debug and also corrected a buildmisstske and grounded the case.

                                    And relocated (let's hope for the best) it to my new HA DIY board...

                                    0_1518792236611_15187922282851484593467.jpg

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                                    @sundberg84 +1 for the mySensors sticker!

                                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                      My son and I finally finished his first MySensors project- a remote control for his room. He wasn't too interested but you have to start somewhere right...? :)
                                      Question for you all... what are you doing (if anything) to vent the fumes from soldering? I haven't really been worried about it in the past but it makes me nervous with my son doing it with me.
                                      Anyway, here are the pictures.

                                      0_1518837057065_IMG_20180216_171013.jpg
                                      0_1518837070467_IMG_20180216_171125.jpg
                                      0_1518837089935_IMG_20180216_171709.jpg

                                      My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                      • petewillP petewill

                                        My son and I finally finished his first MySensors project- a remote control for his room. He wasn't too interested but you have to start somewhere right...? :)
                                        Question for you all... what are you doing (if anything) to vent the fumes from soldering? I haven't really been worried about it in the past but it makes me nervous with my son doing it with me.
                                        Anyway, here are the pictures.

                                        0_1518837057065_IMG_20180216_171013.jpg
                                        0_1518837070467_IMG_20180216_171125.jpg
                                        0_1518837089935_IMG_20180216_171709.jpg

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                                        wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                        #393

                                        @petewill What up with the red, yellow, and blue wires on the pro mini?

                                        Also, did you print the case with a volcano?

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                                        • petewillP petewill

                                          My son and I finally finished his first MySensors project- a remote control for his room. He wasn't too interested but you have to start somewhere right...? :)
                                          Question for you all... what are you doing (if anything) to vent the fumes from soldering? I haven't really been worried about it in the past but it makes me nervous with my son doing it with me.
                                          Anyway, here are the pictures.

                                          0_1518837057065_IMG_20180216_171013.jpg
                                          0_1518837070467_IMG_20180216_171125.jpg
                                          0_1518837089935_IMG_20180216_171709.jpg

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                                          @petewill That's awesome. Did you work with him too on the design of the box? Great job.

                                          Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                                          Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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