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Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??

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  • F Fabien

    @ceech said:

    This one is not "safe", but it is an In-Wall AC to DC converter. Transformerless. With a 3A Solid state relay:

    2015-08-21T12-11-1.jpg

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    The converter output is 3.3V at 100mA and the solid state relay is a Triac.

    Do you have some shcematic of this board ? I'd like to adapt it for 2 relays

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    @Fabien @DrJeff Here is a link to board and schematic files for the transformerless AC-DC converter:
    https://github.com/ceech/AC_SR087

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      MartinP
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      Would this varistor work with 240v?
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-Zinc-Oxide-Varistor-250VAC-60J-2500A-10mm-/260848704608?hash=item3cbbcb5c60

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        @Fabien @DrJeff Here is a link to board and schematic files for the transformerless AC-DC converter:
        https://github.com/ceech/AC_SR087

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        @ceech can't look at the files right now is this a dimmer switch that is transformerless?

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          @ceech can't look at the files right now is this a dimmer switch that is transformerless?

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          @DrJeff Yes

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            @DrJeff Yes

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            @ceech Thanks yet again!

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            • M MartinP

              Would this varistor work with 240v?
              http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-Zinc-Oxide-Varistor-250VAC-60J-2500A-10mm-/260848704608?hash=item3cbbcb5c60

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              @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                Fabien
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                thank you @ceech

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                • petewillP petewill

                  @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

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                  @petewill said:

                  @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

                  I would personally go with a higher voltage rating. Something like 15-20% higher than your normal voltage otherwise you may get regular nuisance trips. So for a 240 VAC system, I would use something close to 290V.

                  Cheers
                  Al

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                    @petewill said:

                    @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

                    I would personally go with a higher voltage rating. Something like 15-20% higher than your normal voltage otherwise you may get regular nuisance trips. So for a 240 VAC system, I would use something close to 290V.

                    Cheers
                    Al

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                    @Sparkman Thanks!

                    My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                      20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

                      RJ_Make

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                        20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

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                        @ServiceXp :+1: long evening ahead :satisfied:

                        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                          Hi all,

                          I was wondering, I want to be able to adress my blinds using mysensors. Using the relay, radio etc works fine, yet I am still wondering on this power supply. So using the above component I basically prevent fire by using the thermal fuse and an overload by using a regular fuse, the varistor and the HLK.

                          Now, I am using a Nano (I have still 15 of those) which appear to be using 230mA, the radio itself and a relay. The relay (from the spec sheet) uses 180mA. This should be ok to be used with the HLK shown above. Now, my main concern is, how do you make a all sit together nicely? Is there a PCB type of board you are using? Any pointers welcome :)

                          Kind regards

                          Steve

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                            filipq
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                            Hi Steve

                            this may be useful http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1540/110v-230v-ac-to-mysensors-pcb-board

                            Regrads
                            Filip

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                              20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

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                              @ServiceXp Nice! Let us know how it goes.

                              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                Another one http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1586/roller-shutter

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                                  I'm planning on using the HLK-PM01 with the extra precautions discussed here; gluing a thermal fuse on top of the HLK-PM01 and adding a fuse and varistor.

                                  My only problem right now is that I'm unable to find a good source for 0.3A slow blow fuses with axial leads on eBay. The only variants I can find are without leads and it feels a bit unnecessary to add a fuse holder to the circuit since the fuse is meant to be non-replaceable. The ones that petewill posted a link to are out-of-stock. Does anyone have any good suggestion where to find good fuses to use?

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                                    @cygnus said:

                                    HLK-PM01

                                    +1

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                                      I'm planning on using the HLK-PM01 with the extra precautions discussed here; gluing a thermal fuse on top of the HLK-PM01 and adding a fuse and varistor.

                                      My only problem right now is that I'm unable to find a good source for 0.3A slow blow fuses with axial leads on eBay. The only variants I can find are without leads and it feels a bit unnecessary to add a fuse holder to the circuit since the fuse is meant to be non-replaceable. The ones that petewill posted a link to are out-of-stock. Does anyone have any good suggestion where to find good fuses to use?

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                                      @cygnus said:

                                      My only problem right now is that I'm unable to find a good source for 0.3A slow blow fuses with axial leads on eBay.

                                      Looks like the .4A ones are in stock. I would just go with those.

                                      Cheers
                                      Al

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                                        found these:

                                        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-25pcs-0-25A-250mA-250V-3-6x10mm-Fuse-Slow-Blow-Glass-Axial-Leaded/32452469177.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.138.0Cb2oJ&ws_ab_test=201556_3,201527_3_71_72_73_74_75,0_0

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                                          #255

                                          If I want to use a relay for in-wall use. Could I use the same Slow Blow fuse, thermal fuse and varistor to get it to be more safe?

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