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Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??

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  • C ceech

    This one is not "safe", but it is an In-Wall AC to DC converter. Transformerless. With a 3A Solid state relay:

    2015-08-21T12-11-1.jpg

    2015-08.jpg

    The converter output is 3.3V at 100mA and the solid state relay is a Triac.

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    @ceech said:

    This one is not "safe", but it is an In-Wall AC to DC converter. Transformerless. With a 3A Solid state relay:

    2015-08-21T12-11-1.jpg

    2015-08.jpg

    The converter output is 3.3V at 100mA and the solid state relay is a Triac.

    Do you have some shcematic of this board ? I'd like to adapt it for 2 relays

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      Can anyone give me ebay-links to the parts I need to order to use the HLK with 230V.

      I am getting a little confused about all the links.

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        This is the one I sent to be reviewed:

        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-1pcs-lot-HLK-PM01-AC-DC-220V-to-5V-mini-power-supply-module-intelligent/32408565688.html

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          Ok thanks, but I meant the fuses, varistors and stuff.

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          • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

            Ok thanks, but I meant the fuses, varistors and stuff.

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            @Cliff-Karlsson
            I haven't tested any of these parts yet but this is what I ordered. I am in the USA so this is spec'd for 120 VAC. If you're using 240 you will need to change the size of the Varistor but everything else should be fine for 240.

            Varistor for 120VAC - http://www.ebay.com/itm/321024816822?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

            73°C Thermal Fuse - http://www.ebay.com/itm/221560426284?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=520415979885&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

            250V 300mA Slow Blow Fuse - http://www.ebay.com/itm/111433875797?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=410420838583&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

            HLK-PM01 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/351418782712?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

            My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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            • F Fabien

              @ceech said:

              This one is not "safe", but it is an In-Wall AC to DC converter. Transformerless. With a 3A Solid state relay:

              2015-08-21T12-11-1.jpg

              2015-08.jpg

              The converter output is 3.3V at 100mA and the solid state relay is a Triac.

              Do you have some shcematic of this board ? I'd like to adapt it for 2 relays

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              @Fabien @DrJeff Here is a link to board and schematic files for the transformerless AC-DC converter:
              https://github.com/ceech/AC_SR087

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                MartinP
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                #237

                Would this varistor work with 240v?
                http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-Zinc-Oxide-Varistor-250VAC-60J-2500A-10mm-/260848704608?hash=item3cbbcb5c60

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                • C ceech

                  @Fabien @DrJeff Here is a link to board and schematic files for the transformerless AC-DC converter:
                  https://github.com/ceech/AC_SR087

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                  @ceech can't look at the files right now is this a dimmer switch that is transformerless?

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                  • DrJeffD DrJeff

                    @ceech can't look at the files right now is this a dimmer switch that is transformerless?

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                    @DrJeff Yes

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                    • C ceech

                      @DrJeff Yes

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                      @ceech Thanks yet again!

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                      • M MartinP

                        Would this varistor work with 240v?
                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-Zinc-Oxide-Varistor-250VAC-60J-2500A-10mm-/260848704608?hash=item3cbbcb5c60

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                        @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

                        My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                          thank you @ceech

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                          • petewillP petewill

                            @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

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                            @petewill said:

                            @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

                            I would personally go with a higher voltage rating. Something like 15-20% higher than your normal voltage otherwise you may get regular nuisance trips. So for a 240 VAC system, I would use something close to 290V.

                            Cheers
                            Al

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                              @petewill said:

                              @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

                              I would personally go with a higher voltage rating. Something like 15-20% higher than your normal voltage otherwise you may get regular nuisance trips. So for a 240 VAC system, I would use something close to 290V.

                              Cheers
                              Al

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                              @Sparkman Thanks!

                              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

                                RJ_Make

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                                  20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

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                                  @ServiceXp :+1: long evening ahead :satisfied:

                                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                    Hi all,

                                    I was wondering, I want to be able to adress my blinds using mysensors. Using the relay, radio etc works fine, yet I am still wondering on this power supply. So using the above component I basically prevent fire by using the thermal fuse and an overload by using a regular fuse, the varistor and the HLK.

                                    Now, I am using a Nano (I have still 15 of those) which appear to be using 230mA, the radio itself and a relay. The relay (from the spec sheet) uses 180mA. This should be ok to be used with the HLK shown above. Now, my main concern is, how do you make a all sit together nicely? Is there a PCB type of board you are using? Any pointers welcome :)

                                    Kind regards

                                    Steve

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                                      Hi Steve

                                      this may be useful http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1540/110v-230v-ac-to-mysensors-pcb-board

                                      Regrads
                                      Filip

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                                        20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

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                                        @ServiceXp Nice! Let us know how it goes.

                                        My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                          Another one http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1586/roller-shutter

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