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  • marceltrapmanM marceltrapman

    @Yveaux I have one of each of these:
    https://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Sensors/Proximity/SE-10.pdf
    http://www.mpja.com/download/31227sc.pdf

    I assume that I have to do some engineering if I can not use the signal like it is

    To be honest, if that is the case this is beyond my knowledge.
    Can you or someone else give me pointers what to do and/or point me to some good reading on the subject.

    'Me simple sales guy with knowledge in programming but no electronics yet' :)

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    @marceltrapman had another look at the datasheet. Another option is to use pin-change interrupts which seem to act on level triggers during sleep.
    Have a look at http://playground.arduino.cc/Learning/arduinoSleepCode and https://code.google.com/p/arduino-pinchangeint/wiki/Usage

    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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      #9

      I couldn't stand it and wired up the motion sensor I have (HC-SR501) and tested with the MotionSensor example code (MySensors 1.4b).
      Sensor supply is 5V, sensor output is connected to pin 2 or Arduino. Pin 2 is configured to be an input pin and generate an interrupt when any change on the pin state is detected. You don't need to attach a resistor as the sensor outputs either a low state or high state (3V3 according to my data). You *could *connect a small resistor (e.g. 100ohms) between sensor output and Arduino pin to limit the current.
      I only changed the SLEEP_TIME to 30000 and DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR to 2. Downloaded the sketch to Uno and ran it.
      Works as expected! Sensor sleeps and is woken by any change in interrupt pin (this is a contradiction with the ATmega datasheet which states it should only act on low level!).
      So a value of 1 is sent when the sensor detects motion, 0 when motion 'goes away'.

      Hopefully this answers your question :-)

      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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      • YveauxY Yveaux

        I couldn't stand it and wired up the motion sensor I have (HC-SR501) and tested with the MotionSensor example code (MySensors 1.4b).
        Sensor supply is 5V, sensor output is connected to pin 2 or Arduino. Pin 2 is configured to be an input pin and generate an interrupt when any change on the pin state is detected. You don't need to attach a resistor as the sensor outputs either a low state or high state (3V3 according to my data). You *could *connect a small resistor (e.g. 100ohms) between sensor output and Arduino pin to limit the current.
        I only changed the SLEEP_TIME to 30000 and DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR to 2. Downloaded the sketch to Uno and ran it.
        Works as expected! Sensor sleeps and is woken by any change in interrupt pin (this is a contradiction with the ATmega datasheet which states it should only act on low level!).
        So a value of 1 is sent when the sensor detects motion, 0 when motion 'goes away'.

        Hopefully this answers your question :-)

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        @Yveaux said:

        Hopefully this answers your question :-)

        Thank you soooo much for doing this!

        I will do the same this weekend (work, sports etc is also important :) ).

        Fulltime Servoy Developer
        Parttime Moderator MySensors board

        I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
        I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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          wrote on last edited by bjornhallberg
          #11

          While you guys are at it, can you also confirm that the PIR module does indeed work as intended on 3.3V input like this guy claims:
          http://techgurka.blogspot.se/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html
          There are a couple of different revisions of the HC-SR501 through so not all of them have actual pins for for H/L selection. Some just have small solder pads.

          Bypassing the regulator, and eventually removing it would solve a lot of problems for battery sensors. But as noted, it should probably output 3.3V when HIGH regardless so no need to worry.

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          • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

            While you guys are at it, can you also confirm that the PIR module does indeed work as intended on 3.3V input like this guy claims:
            http://techgurka.blogspot.se/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html
            There are a couple of different revisions of the HC-SR501 through so not all of them have actual pins for for H/L selection. Some just have small solder pads.

            Bypassing the regulator, and eventually removing it would solve a lot of problems for battery sensors. But as noted, it should probably output 3.3V when HIGH regardless so no need to worry.

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            @bjornhallberg thanks for the hint! The 5v supply kept me from battery powering it.
            I seem to have the same sensor as in the article.
            I'll setup some test and also measure the current the sensor consumes to get an estimation of battery life.
            To be continued....

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              #13

              Here it is.

              The HC-sr501 seems to work with 3.3v (have not tested it with 3v though).

              With 5v the output pin generates about 500mv low and 3.5v high.
              With 3.3v the output pint generates about 390mv low and a little under 3v high.

              Nice I think...

              Fulltime Servoy Developer
              Parttime Moderator MySensors board

              I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
              I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                #14

                Tested HC-SR501 with 2xAA Alkaline (2.86V) still works OK.

                Measured power usage with uCurrent & Scope (2.86V, 7133-1 voltage converter bypassed):

                upload-75f69108-ac9f-4819-af43-1cdb9bbdd0c9

                Blue = current in micro-Amps., Red = detection output
                So sleeping current is roughly 60uA (171uW), peak current is 212uA.
                Probably this will improve by disconnecting the 7133-1 voltage converter.
                Update: Repeated measurement with 7133-1 completely removed from PCB -- Makes no difference, so there's no need to remove it.

                Given the example battery-life calculation from MySensors (http://www.mysensors.org/build/battery) you could run this sensor (alone!) from a battery for roughly 16months!

                Same chart for 4.73V supply (7133-1 voltage converter used):
                upload-c3fa3a5b-3986-443b-a33f-8fc4fb034e6b

                Blue = current in micro-Amps., Red = detection output
                So sleeping current is roughly 66uA (312uW), peak current is 272uA.

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  Tested HC-SR501 with 2xAA Alkaline (2.86V) still works OK.

                  Measured power usage with uCurrent & Scope (2.86V, 7133-1 voltage converter bypassed):

                  upload-75f69108-ac9f-4819-af43-1cdb9bbdd0c9

                  Blue = current in micro-Amps., Red = detection output
                  So sleeping current is roughly 60uA (171uW), peak current is 212uA.
                  Probably this will improve by disconnecting the 7133-1 voltage converter.
                  Update: Repeated measurement with 7133-1 completely removed from PCB -- Makes no difference, so there's no need to remove it.

                  Given the example battery-life calculation from MySensors (http://www.mysensors.org/build/battery) you could run this sensor (alone!) from a battery for roughly 16months!

                  Same chart for 4.73V supply (7133-1 voltage converter used):
                  upload-c3fa3a5b-3986-443b-a33f-8fc4fb034e6b

                  Blue = current in micro-Amps., Red = detection output
                  So sleeping current is roughly 66uA (312uW), peak current is 272uA.

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                  #15

                  @Yveaux Nice, have not yet tested the other sensor though.

                  Fulltime Servoy Developer
                  Parttime Moderator MySensors board

                  I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
                  I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                  • marceltrapmanM marceltrapman

                    @Yveaux Nice, have not yet tested the other sensor though.

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                    Got it working, changed the sketch a little though.

                    I wanted 2 things:

                    1. No reporting of status when there is no change
                    2. 4 minutes real sleep before the next update when motion was detected

                    Work like a charm :)

                    Thank you guys!!!

                    void loop() {     
                      // Read digital motion value
                      boolean motion = digitalRead( DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR ) == LOW; 
                    
                      // Send debug output to serial monitor
                      mprintln(PSTR("Motion sensor %s"), motion ? "ON" : "OFF" );
                    
                      if (lastMotion != motion) {
                        lastMotion = motion;
                    
                        // Send motion value to sensor
                        gw.send( msg.set( motion ? "1" : "0" ) );
                      
                        if (motion) {
                          gw.sleep( SLEEP_TIME );
                        }
                      }
                      
                      gw.sleep( INTERRUPT, CHANGE, SLEEP_TIME );
                    }
                    

                    Fulltime Servoy Developer
                    Parttime Moderator MySensors board

                    I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
                    I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                    • marceltrapmanM marceltrapman

                      Got it working, changed the sketch a little though.

                      I wanted 2 things:

                      1. No reporting of status when there is no change
                      2. 4 minutes real sleep before the next update when motion was detected

                      Work like a charm :)

                      Thank you guys!!!

                      void loop() {     
                        // Read digital motion value
                        boolean motion = digitalRead( DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR ) == LOW; 
                      
                        // Send debug output to serial monitor
                        mprintln(PSTR("Motion sensor %s"), motion ? "ON" : "OFF" );
                      
                        if (lastMotion != motion) {
                          lastMotion = motion;
                      
                          // Send motion value to sensor
                          gw.send( msg.set( motion ? "1" : "0" ) );
                        
                          if (motion) {
                            gw.sleep( SLEEP_TIME );
                          }
                        }
                        
                        gw.sleep( INTERRUPT, CHANGE, SLEEP_TIME );
                      }
                      
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                      @marceltrapman Great you managed to get it working!
                      Just wondering about one thing:

                      boolean motion = digitalRead( DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR ) == LOW; 
                      

                      This suggests motion is detected when input pin is LOW, while I clearly see it rise when motion is detected...
                      Where's the catch?

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                        @Yveaux said:

                        Where's the catch?

                        Because I was testing 2 different types of motion sensors I decided (for now) against the HC-SR501.
                        I was just being lazy and did not want to bother with checking/setting the timeout and sensibility on the sensor itself.
                        The other one behaves correct with this test and not when I set it to HIGH.
                        And behaviour is consistent...

                        Fulltime Servoy Developer
                        Parttime Moderator MySensors board

                        I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
                        I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                        • YveauxY Yveaux

                          Tested HC-SR501 with 2xAA Alkaline (2.86V) still works OK.

                          Measured power usage with uCurrent & Scope (2.86V, 7133-1 voltage converter bypassed):

                          upload-75f69108-ac9f-4819-af43-1cdb9bbdd0c9

                          Blue = current in micro-Amps., Red = detection output
                          So sleeping current is roughly 60uA (171uW), peak current is 212uA.
                          Probably this will improve by disconnecting the 7133-1 voltage converter.
                          Update: Repeated measurement with 7133-1 completely removed from PCB -- Makes no difference, so there's no need to remove it.

                          Given the example battery-life calculation from MySensors (http://www.mysensors.org/build/battery) you could run this sensor (alone!) from a battery for roughly 16months!

                          Same chart for 4.73V supply (7133-1 voltage converter used):
                          upload-c3fa3a5b-3986-443b-a33f-8fc4fb034e6b

                          Blue = current in micro-Amps., Red = detection output
                          So sleeping current is roughly 66uA (312uW), peak current is 272uA.

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                          Mod
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          @Yveaux Update: Repeated measurement with 7133-1 completely removed from PCB @ 3v3 -- Makes no difference, so there's no need to remove it.

                          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                          • YveauxY Yveaux

                            @Yveaux Update: Repeated measurement with 7133-1 completely removed from PCB @ 3v3 -- Makes no difference, so there's no need to remove it.

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                            @Yveaux said:

                            @Yveaux Update: Repeated measurement with 7133-1 completely removed from PCB @ 3v3 -- Makes no difference, so there's no need to remove it.

                            Let me be sure I understand. You are comparing feeding battery power to the 3.3v circuit of the motion detector, with and without the 7133-1 connected, right? (When the 7133-1 is connected, you are feeding power to its output), right?

                            EDIT - It was a dumb question, followed the link to read that the regulator has a 1.7v dropout, so obviously you are not going thru it!

                            Some regulators don't like being fed power to their output and waste current, but apparently this one doesn't care, which is handy.

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                            • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

                              While you guys are at it, can you also confirm that the PIR module does indeed work as intended on 3.3V input like this guy claims:
                              http://techgurka.blogspot.se/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html
                              There are a couple of different revisions of the HC-SR501 through so not all of them have actual pins for for H/L selection. Some just have small solder pads.

                              Bypassing the regulator, and eventually removing it would solve a lot of problems for battery sensors. But as noted, it should probably output 3.3V when HIGH regardless so no need to worry.

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                              While you guys are at it, can you also confirm that the PIR module does indeed work as intended on 3.3V input like this guy claims:
                              http://techgurka.blogspot.se/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html
                              There are a couple of different revisions of the HC-SR501 through so not all of them have actual pins for for H/L selection. Some just have small solder pads.

                              Hi all, does anyone know of an eBay listing that actually ships the HC-SR501 with the pins for H/L selection? I bought some of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/310574919531, which shows the pins in the pictures and the description mentions being able to select H/L with a jumper, but the ones that arrived don't actually have the pins and have the solder pads instead.

                              Thanks
                              Al

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