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110v-230v AC to Mysensors PCB board

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  • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

    Sorry I didnt get your questions .. do you mean dimensions of 220-3.3v converter. Here they are.
    output 2.5W 3.3V/0.8A +-0.2V size: 30x20x18mm

    I am not from electronics background so didn't get what holding resistance means?

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    @toabhishekverma No, I meant for the relay ;-)
    What's the resistance of the 3V coil? I want to know the current flowing when the relay is active.

    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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      @Yveaux Still no idea about it. Check link if you get something from it. what I know is it can bear up to 10A current and can be controlled using 3v .... my order still in shipping so don't know more then that.

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      • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

        @Yveaux Still no idea about it. Check link if you get something from it. what I know is it can bear up to 10A current and can be controlled using 3v .... my order still in shipping so don't know more then that.

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        @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
        Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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        • YveauxY Yveaux

          @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
          Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

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          @Yveaux http://www.songle.com/en/pdf/20084141716341001.pdf

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          • HenryWhiteH HenryWhite

            @Yveaux http://www.songle.com/en/pdf/20084141716341001.pdf

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            @HenryWhite Awesome! Didn't even think of looking for a datasheet of a Chinese relay ;-)

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              #207

              Another source :

              50Pieces/Lot JRC-21F 4100 3V DC 6 Pins Miniature PCB Relay Brand New
              http://s.aliexpress.com/MNVv2myE

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

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                @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

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                • P Porky6666

                  Another source :

                  50Pieces/Lot JRC-21F 4100 3V DC 6 Pins Miniature PCB Relay Brand New
                  http://s.aliexpress.com/MNVv2myE

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                  @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

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                  • GertSandersG GertSanders

                    @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

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                    @GertSanders said:

                    @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

                    Correct. Here's how I wired the songle relay on my Lithium Ion Sensor PCB:

                    0_1455277788002_123123.png

                    @GertSanders said:

                    @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

                    I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A. I think there is a reason no german electronics shop sells songle relays :smile:

                    Plus, relays from an electronics shop in your country might cost the same than the songle relays or will just be a tiny bit more expensive.

                    At least this is true for 5V relays. 3V relays are hard to find (at least in germany)

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                    • HenryWhiteH HenryWhite

                      @GertSanders said:

                      @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

                      Correct. Here's how I wired the songle relay on my Lithium Ion Sensor PCB:

                      0_1455277788002_123123.png

                      @GertSanders said:

                      @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

                      I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A. I think there is a reason no german electronics shop sells songle relays :smile:

                      Plus, relays from an electronics shop in your country might cost the same than the songle relays or will just be a tiny bit more expensive.

                      At least this is true for 5V relays. 3V relays are hard to find (at least in germany)

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                      @HenryWhite said:

                      I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A.

                      I agree, I plan to switch lights, so my preference goes to the 10A model, just to be sure. I have used the SONGLE 5V versions, and none have ever given me reason to doubt their quality. Since I found a 3V3 powersupply I want to try building a full 3V3 board. Should be fun.

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                        toabhishekverma
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                        @HenryWhite why do we need D1 Diode (if i am write) in that circuit? do this circuit will not work without diode?
                        (sorry dont know much about electronics)

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                        • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

                          @HenryWhite why do we need D1 Diode (if i am write) in that circuit? do this circuit will not work without diode?
                          (sorry dont know much about electronics)

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                          @toabhishekverma https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_diode

                          in short: It is needed to protect the NPN transistor from damage.
                          The circuit will work without diode, But eventually damage the transistor.

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                            @GertSanders Have you breadboarded your 3.3V design? I'm a bit worried that removing linear converter will impair the performance of the our fussy nRF clones due to less power supply ripple rejection. I think those going for the ESP8266 are better off.

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                              Anyone has an idea where to source the 5.5V varistor? I received a bunch from AliExpress following which seem to be broken.
                              I found this link http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/575651.pdf. However, there seem to be a bunch of 5.5 V varistor. Can anybody help me figuring out the right ones?

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                                Anyone has an idea where to source the 5.5V varistor? I received a bunch from AliExpress following which seem to be broken.
                                I found this link http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/575651.pdf. However, there seem to be a bunch of 5.5 V varistor. Can anybody help me figuring out the right ones?

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                                @tomkxy I'm using this one: http://hu.farnell.com/multicomp/mcvz1206m050agt/varistor-multilayer-4vac-0402/dp/2462756

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                                  @GertSanders Have you breadboarded your 3.3V design? I'm a bit worried that removing linear converter will impair the performance of the our fussy nRF clones due to less power supply ripple rejection. I think those going for the ESP8266 are better off.

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                                  @m26872 I have not used the 3V3 version of the Hilink converter, it was just shipped today (ordered last week). It will take a few more weeks to reach me. But then I will test it on my ac board. We will see.
                                  23/FEB: Update: the converters are here. I will make a node with this converter version this weekend.

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                                  • icebobI icebob

                                    @tomkxy I'm using this one: http://hu.farnell.com/multicomp/mcvz1206m050agt/varistor-multilayer-4vac-0402/dp/2462756

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                                    @icebob said:

                                    @tomkxy I'm using this one: http://hu.farnell.com/multicomp/mcvz1206m050agt/varistor-multilayer-4vac-0402/dp/2462756

                                    Thanks! It's a pity that the chinese "varistors" seem to be jumpers. I even saw in some offers on AliExpress that they are referred to as jumpers.

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                                      tomkxy
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                                      How can I check whether the solid state relay works at all. My assembled board receives messages and sets state properly, I have 5V on the pin, however the relay does not seem to switch. Should I hear it? Any other ideas for "debugging"?

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                                        How can I check whether the solid state relay works at all. My assembled board receives messages and sets state properly, I have 5V on the pin, however the relay does not seem to switch. Should I hear it? Any other ideas for "debugging"?

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                                        #220

                                        @tomkxy
                                        Measure the resistance over the AC terminals of the SSR. It should be very high when "open" en very low when "closed". SSRs do not make sounds when they switch, so sound will not give a clue if they work.

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                                          Most SSRs cannot be checked this way because they can only switch AC and not DC. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_cross_circuit

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