💬 MySensors Stable Node
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Wow, nice integration of the two largest PCB's @Koresh
I'll be watching this thread for a while. I'm still not the most comfortable with soldering my own SMD components; but this is so tempting.
The only thing I wish it had was a coax input for an optional external antenna.
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The break down cost of the board and components is less than USD $5 ( aliexpress component prices mostly) . Can someone share some PCBA service which can also do components sourcing ? with reasonable pricing of course. I would order some 20 - 30 units and may be others could join to make price cheaper.
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Manually mounted, as in hand soldered? 1$ per board? I think that is a very optimistic price!
I've looked through old emails from various smd assembly houses.. I got one that states setup fee for around 140$ (per batch), and then 4-5$ per unit.. add to that stencil price 60$ (Can be used for multiple batches). and don't forget the BOM price as well..
I know that they are spitting out cheap arduino nano's for 1-2$.. but they are probably not quality checked, just smd assembly, bagged and shipped.. (and they probably make 5000 - 50.000 units per batch)
I think that people need to be realistic on what they can get, at what prices..
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Manually mounted, as in hand soldered? 1$ per board? I think that is a very optimistic price!
I've looked through old emails from various smd assembly houses.. I got one that states setup fee for around 140$ (per batch), and then 4-5$ per unit.. add to that stencil price 60$ (Can be used for multiple batches). and don't forget the BOM price as well..
I know that they are spitting out cheap arduino nano's for 1-2$.. but they are probably not quality checked, just smd assembly, bagged and shipped.. (and they probably make 5000 - 50.000 units per batch)
I think that people need to be realistic on what they can get, at what prices..
@tbowmo
Thanks for information. But you are painting a bleak pictiure, I think.@tbowmo said:
add to that stencil price 60$ (Can be used for multiple batches)
No. Size(widthxlength) Useful area(width×length) Price Weight/pc
1 37.0cm×47.0cm 19.0cm×29.0cm usd17/pc 1.5KG
2 30.0cm×40.0cm 13.0cm×21.0cm usd15/pc 1KG
3 42.0cm×52.0cm 24.0cm×34.0cm usd30/pc 1.8KGThese are prices from my latest china pcb partner (hard stencil with frame)
@tbowmo said:
setup fee for around 140$ (per batch)
My latest local pcba partner offered 50$ price for SMT machine set up (automatic assebmbly, ultra low quantity batch)
@tbowmo said:
Manually mounted, as in hand soldered? 1$ per board? I think that is a very optimistic price!
I hope it's not far from reality. My latest local pcba partner has assembled board with 2.2cent for solder point (manual assembly, ultra low quantity batch)
It would be perfect to find a PCBA partner (maybe with pcb production and components stock, turn-key service) in China (with perfect logistics) :satisfied:
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Of course prices do vary between manufacturers, The prices that I listed was a couple of years old, so they have probably changed a bit..
I just want to point out that pcb assembly can not be done for 'free' :) As there is a lot of factors that has to be calculated into the price..
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Looks like what I have been looking for !
Any progress on the gerber files ? ( so I can order pcb's )
I was looking through the list of materials, but getting confusion while looking on Aliexpress, is it possible to share the links to the parts on Aliexpress/eBay ?
Thanks !
Alex
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Looks like what I have been looking for !
Any progress on the gerber files ? ( so I can order pcb's )
I was looking through the list of materials, but getting confusion while looking on Aliexpress, is it possible to share the links to the parts on Aliexpress/eBay ?
Thanks !
Alex
@Slorf Sorry for delay. I've uploaded gerber files (100% correct - first batch was produced according to them).
I ordered 0402 components in these shops:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1171142
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/821060 -
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How do i know it;s a polarized version ?
There are these ( which i think are the wrong ones )
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-0805-SMD-capacitor-4-7uf-50V-475Z-100PCS/32376068362.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.40.rvV9hM&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_4_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6452&btsid=833ff5df-930f-4fd8-8530-cb280a1b9c7fand there are these:
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How do i know it;s a polarized version ?
There are these ( which i think are the wrong ones )
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-0805-SMD-capacitor-4-7uf-50V-475Z-100PCS/32376068362.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.40.rvV9hM&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_4_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6452&btsid=833ff5df-930f-4fd8-8530-cb280a1b9c7fand there are these:
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Thanks, i found everything on Aliexpress, except:
Push Button SPDT
Resistor 1M ( which package size )Alex
@Slorf
Resistor 1M ( which package size ) - unnecessary element (R1 can be mounted for backward compatibility with nRF24L01, nevermind)
Push Button - use any buttons like these http://ru.aliexpress.com/item/10-Pcs-x-Sealed-SMD-Momentary-Tact-Tactile-Push-Button-Switch-3mm-x-6mm-x-2/32600602500.html?spm=2114.30010708.3.10.QkNxnX&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_6,searchweb201644_3_505_506_503_504_301_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10007_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6451&btsid=efafd213-4a02-41ac-8d40-b5e9982a58f1 :wink:
