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Is it possible to run more than one pin to an interrupt for sleep/wake purposes?

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  • AWIA AWI

    @karl261 these options seem all very odd to me. I2c should work, did you activate a pull-up for the interrupt pin? Can you post your sketch and hardware connections?

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    @AWI Thanks for trying to help! Just a quick question first: Do I draw the circuit by hand or is there a good cheap (free) way to do it on the PC? Or tablet?

    I think it is how the pcf8574 is designed. I detect no change on the interrupt pin. But yes, maybe my wiring is not good.

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      @AWI Thanks for trying to help! Just a quick question first: Do I draw the circuit by hand or is there a good cheap (free) way to do it on the PC? Or tablet?

      I think it is how the pcf8574 is designed. I detect no change on the interrupt pin. But yes, maybe my wiring is not good.

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      @karl261 by hand is quick and easy. I like to use Fritzing, which is a free tool.

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      • karl261K karl261

        @AWI Thanks for trying to help! Just a quick question first: Do I draw the circuit by hand or is there a good cheap (free) way to do it on the PC? Or tablet?

        I think it is how the pcf8574 is designed. I detect no change on the interrupt pin. But yes, maybe my wiring is not good.

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        @karl261 As @mfalkvidd said. just make an simple hand drawing on how you connected the pfc8574 and the int pin. The rest is obvious. The pcf8574 can generate an interrupt on any change of the input pins.

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        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

          @karl261 by hand is quick and easy. I like to use Fritzing, which is a free tool.

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          @mfalkvidd Cool stuff, thanks!

          @AWI Here you go. What a chaos... Sorry. :-) I thought of a setup like this. But the interrupt pin of the pcf is not doing anything. Maybe I need another chip?

          The resistor is 10kOhm.

          NRF is also connected. And working.

          The sketch is not ready, but the keyboard works on the serial line.

          0_1474716234250_Untitled Sketch_Steckplatine.jpg

          #include <Wire.h>
          #include <Keypad_I2C.h>
          #include <Keypad.h>
          #define I2CADDR 0x38
          
          #define MY_DEBUG
          #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
          #define MY_NODE_ID 8
          
          
          #include <MySensors.h>
          #include <SPI.h>
          
          
          unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 0; // Sleep time between reports (in milliseconds)
          #define DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR 3   // The digital input you attached your motion sensor.  (Only 2 and 3 generates interrupt!)
          #define CHILD_ID 1   // Id of the sensor child
          
          const byte ROWS = 4; //four rows
          const byte COLS = 4; //three columns
          char keys[ROWS][COLS] = {
            {'1','2','3','A'},
            {'4','5','6','B'},
            {'7','8','9','C'},
            {'*','0','#','D'}
          };
          
          // Digitran keypad, bit numbers of PCF8574 i/o port
          byte rowPins[ROWS] = {0, 1, 2, 3}; //connect to the row pinouts of the keypad
          byte colPins[COLS] = {4, 5, 6, 7}; //connect to the column pinouts of the keypad
          
          Keypad_I2C kpd( makeKeymap(keys), rowPins, colPins, ROWS, COLS, I2CADDR, PCF8574 );
          
          void setup(){
              Wire.begin( );
              kpd.begin( makeKeymap(keys) );
          //    Serial.begin(9600);
              Serial.println( "start" );
              pinMode(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR, INPUT);      // sets the motion sensor digital pin as input
          }
          
          void loop(){
          
              Serial.println("Waking up");
          
              char key = kpd.getKey();
              
              if (key){
              Serial.println(key);
              }
          
              Serial.println("Good Night");
              delay(100);
              sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR), FALLING, SLEEP_TIME);
          }
          
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          • karl261K karl261

            @mfalkvidd Cool stuff, thanks!

            @AWI Here you go. What a chaos... Sorry. :-) I thought of a setup like this. But the interrupt pin of the pcf is not doing anything. Maybe I need another chip?

            The resistor is 10kOhm.

            NRF is also connected. And working.

            The sketch is not ready, but the keyboard works on the serial line.

            0_1474716234250_Untitled Sketch_Steckplatine.jpg

            #include <Wire.h>
            #include <Keypad_I2C.h>
            #include <Keypad.h>
            #define I2CADDR 0x38
            
            #define MY_DEBUG
            #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
            #define MY_NODE_ID 8
            
            
            #include <MySensors.h>
            #include <SPI.h>
            
            
            unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 0; // Sleep time between reports (in milliseconds)
            #define DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR 3   // The digital input you attached your motion sensor.  (Only 2 and 3 generates interrupt!)
            #define CHILD_ID 1   // Id of the sensor child
            
            const byte ROWS = 4; //four rows
            const byte COLS = 4; //three columns
            char keys[ROWS][COLS] = {
              {'1','2','3','A'},
              {'4','5','6','B'},
              {'7','8','9','C'},
              {'*','0','#','D'}
            };
            
            // Digitran keypad, bit numbers of PCF8574 i/o port
            byte rowPins[ROWS] = {0, 1, 2, 3}; //connect to the row pinouts of the keypad
            byte colPins[COLS] = {4, 5, 6, 7}; //connect to the column pinouts of the keypad
            
            Keypad_I2C kpd( makeKeymap(keys), rowPins, colPins, ROWS, COLS, I2CADDR, PCF8574 );
            
            void setup(){
                Wire.begin( );
                kpd.begin( makeKeymap(keys) );
            //    Serial.begin(9600);
                Serial.println( "start" );
                pinMode(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR, INPUT);      // sets the motion sensor digital pin as input
            }
            
            void loop(){
            
                Serial.println("Waking up");
            
                char key = kpd.getKey();
                
                if (key){
                Serial.println(key);
                }
            
                Serial.println("Good Night");
                delay(100);
                sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR), FALLING, SLEEP_TIME);
            }
            
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            @karl261 Nice Job! I have to dive into the Keypad library to determine if the interrupt is activated... just give me a little longer ..

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            • AWIA AWI

              @karl261 Nice Job! I have to dive into the Keypad library to determine if the interrupt is activated... just give me a little longer ..

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              @AWI Thanks for the flowers. ;-) Your help is much appreciated!

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                @AWI Thanks for the flowers. ;-) Your help is much appreciated!

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                @karl261 It is a pretty hard to find where a possible cause is.. :confused:
                What should happen to generate an interrupt is a change in one of the inputs. In a standard application the outputs (i.e. rows or colums) will be set to low and the inputs (colums or rows) pulled-up.
                I can't figure out what the state of the row's/ column's is in the idle state from the library. YOu can probably measure if the rows en colums have a different level Sorry for now...

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                • AWIA AWI

                  @karl261 It is a pretty hard to find where a possible cause is.. :confused:
                  What should happen to generate an interrupt is a change in one of the inputs. In a standard application the outputs (i.e. rows or colums) will be set to low and the inputs (colums or rows) pulled-up.
                  I can't figure out what the state of the row's/ column's is in the idle state from the library. YOu can probably measure if the rows en colums have a different level Sorry for now...

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                  @AWI I don't recall that columns and rows have a different level. Of what I measured yesterday was that all 8 pins of the keyboard were at 3.3 V. So the only thing that happens is that there will be a connection made between column and row when a key is pressed. It seems that nothing is pulled up or down. :-/

                  So you think the ic can do it? Then we have to re-program the library... :-(

                  http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pcf8574.pdf
                  On page 15 is a wiring example. Maybe we can learn something from this. Some pull up missing?

                  EDIT: No, still can"t get it to work. Buh.

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                    No progress....

                    Maybe this library is better to understand the pcf...

                    https://github.com/RobTillaart/Arduino/tree/master/libraries/PCF8574

                    Also here are some explanations (in German) and some code examples (in English)...

                    http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Port-Expander_PCF8574

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                    • karl261K karl261

                      No progress....

                      Maybe this library is better to understand the pcf...

                      https://github.com/RobTillaart/Arduino/tree/master/libraries/PCF8574

                      Also here are some explanations (in German) and some code examples (in English)...

                      http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Port-Expander_PCF8574

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                      @karl261 There is no clue reading through the articles. I suggest you try to force an interrupt by pulling one pin low in idle. If that works, we go from there.

                      There are a few 16key & 8key more simple examples ;) with touch keypads

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                      • AWIA AWI

                        @karl261 There is no clue reading through the articles. I suggest you try to force an interrupt by pulling one pin low in idle. If that works, we go from there.

                        There are a few 16key & 8key more simple examples ;) with touch keypads

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                        @AWI I think the problem is with the keypad. Because it is not really putting a signal to its pins. The only thing it does is short circuiting them when a key is pressed... No change in high or low.

                        I tried for example to pull row 1 to high and column 1 to low. Then the interrupt fires ( I think) but there is no key press detected any more. But I am not sure if the interrupt fires correctly.

                        I tested some variations last night, but nothing works. It's all still set up on the breadboard, so if you have some suggestions I am happy to try.

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                        • karl261K karl261

                          @AWI I think the problem is with the keypad. Because it is not really putting a signal to its pins. The only thing it does is short circuiting them when a key is pressed... No change in high or low.

                          I tried for example to pull row 1 to high and column 1 to low. Then the interrupt fires ( I think) but there is no key press detected any more. But I am not sure if the interrupt fires correctly.

                          I tested some variations last night, but nothing works. It's all still set up on the breadboard, so if you have some suggestions I am happy to try.

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                          @karl261 That's how it is supposed to be. When the library "scans" the keyboard it succesively pulls one of the rows (or colums) and check in the colums (or rows) if there is a connection. To have interrupts detected either the rows of colums should be set to low to detect a change. That would mean adapting the library (if possible) -or- (more fun) build your own routine by using Rob Tillaarts basic library from your previous post.
                          I don't have any PCF8574 to play with...

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                          • AWIA AWI

                            @karl261 That's how it is supposed to be. When the library "scans" the keyboard it succesively pulls one of the rows (or colums) and check in the colums (or rows) if there is a connection. To have interrupts detected either the rows of colums should be set to low to detect a change. That would mean adapting the library (if possible) -or- (more fun) build your own routine by using Rob Tillaarts basic library from your previous post.
                            I don't have any PCF8574 to play with...

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                            @AWI Yes, basically, 4 inputs should be set to high in the library, and 4 inputs to low. Rows and columns. I had a look at the library examples yesterday, but so far it is beyond my programming skills. As far as I understand from all the docs this is theoretically possible.

                            Then, if done so, the pcf should detect a change in the low/high of the input pins and also detect what key was pressed. Or better the library interprets the received data by i2c correctly.

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                            • AWIA AWI

                              @karl261 There is no clue reading through the articles. I suggest you try to force an interrupt by pulling one pin low in idle. If that works, we go from there.

                              There are a few 16key & 8key more simple examples ;) with touch keypads

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                              @AWI Yeah, I guess just getting another keypad would be the easiest solution. Pitty though. I like my keypad and the fact that it is self-adhesive on the outside of the case.

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                                Or I go back to my three proposed solutions. For example solution 3) works fine. I tested it.

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                                • AWIA AWI

                                  @karl261 That's how it is supposed to be. When the library "scans" the keyboard it succesively pulls one of the rows (or colums) and check in the colums (or rows) if there is a connection. To have interrupts detected either the rows of colums should be set to low to detect a change. That would mean adapting the library (if possible) -or- (more fun) build your own routine by using Rob Tillaarts basic library from your previous post.
                                  I don't have any PCF8574 to play with...

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                                  @AWI I think this Library sounds very promising. What do you think? At least it talks about high and low.

                                  http://playground.arduino.cc/Main/I2CPortExpanderAndKeypads

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                                    @AWI I think this Library sounds very promising. What do you think? At least it talks about high and low.

                                    http://playground.arduino.cc/Main/I2CPortExpanderAndKeypads

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                                    @karl261 At least it is a more comprehensible library but it does not deal with interrupts (yet).
                                    Are you able to do the following experiment?

                                    • Using the library you quoted, execute the following sketch
                                    #include <Wire.h>
                                    #include <i2ckeypad.h>
                                    
                                    #define ROWS 4
                                    #define COLS 3
                                    
                                    // With A0, A1 and A2 of PCF8574 to ground I2C address is 0x20
                                    #define PCF8574_ADDR 0x20
                                    
                                    
                                    i2ckeypad kpd = i2ckeypad(PCF8574_ADDR, ROWS, COLS);
                                    
                                    void setup()
                                    {
                                      Serial.begin(9600);
                                    
                                      Wire.begin();
                                    
                                      kpd.init();
                                       
                                    
                                      Serial.print("Testing keypad/PCF8574 I2C port expander arduino lib\n\n");
                                    
                                      pcf8574_write(pcf8574_i2c_addr, 0xf0);
                                    
                                    }
                                    
                                    void loop()
                                    {
                                    }
                                    
                                    
                                    • measure the input/output pins of the pcf8574 (should be 4 pins low/ 4 pins high)
                                    • measure the power consumption of the pcf8574 (hope it is next to nothing)

                                    IF the above is true we can easily rework te sketch to use the interrupt.

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                                    • AWIA AWI

                                      @karl261 At least it is a more comprehensible library but it does not deal with interrupts (yet).
                                      Are you able to do the following experiment?

                                      • Using the library you quoted, execute the following sketch
                                      #include <Wire.h>
                                      #include <i2ckeypad.h>
                                      
                                      #define ROWS 4
                                      #define COLS 3
                                      
                                      // With A0, A1 and A2 of PCF8574 to ground I2C address is 0x20
                                      #define PCF8574_ADDR 0x20
                                      
                                      
                                      i2ckeypad kpd = i2ckeypad(PCF8574_ADDR, ROWS, COLS);
                                      
                                      void setup()
                                      {
                                        Serial.begin(9600);
                                      
                                        Wire.begin();
                                      
                                        kpd.init();
                                         
                                      
                                        Serial.print("Testing keypad/PCF8574 I2C port expander arduino lib\n\n");
                                      
                                        pcf8574_write(pcf8574_i2c_addr, 0xf0);
                                      
                                      }
                                      
                                      void loop()
                                      {
                                      }
                                      
                                      
                                      • measure the input/output pins of the pcf8574 (should be 4 pins low/ 4 pins high)
                                      • measure the power consumption of the pcf8574 (hope it is next to nothing)

                                      IF the above is true we can easily rework te sketch to use the interrupt.

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                                      @AWI Thanks. I am in the train now and I am spending my time to try to understand how things work. I also made some progress in my brain. My idea is similar, but you already have a sketch ready. :-) I will try it out, I guess on Saturday. Until then I will try to deepen my knowledge of the libraries.

                                      It is also possible with the "original" library, but you are right: the "new" library is much clearer.

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                                      • AWIA AWI

                                        @karl261 At least it is a more comprehensible library but it does not deal with interrupts (yet).
                                        Are you able to do the following experiment?

                                        • Using the library you quoted, execute the following sketch
                                        #include <Wire.h>
                                        #include <i2ckeypad.h>
                                        
                                        #define ROWS 4
                                        #define COLS 3
                                        
                                        // With A0, A1 and A2 of PCF8574 to ground I2C address is 0x20
                                        #define PCF8574_ADDR 0x20
                                        
                                        
                                        i2ckeypad kpd = i2ckeypad(PCF8574_ADDR, ROWS, COLS);
                                        
                                        void setup()
                                        {
                                          Serial.begin(9600);
                                        
                                          Wire.begin();
                                        
                                          kpd.init();
                                           
                                        
                                          Serial.print("Testing keypad/PCF8574 I2C port expander arduino lib\n\n");
                                        
                                          pcf8574_write(pcf8574_i2c_addr, 0xf0);
                                        
                                        }
                                        
                                        void loop()
                                        {
                                        }
                                        
                                        
                                        • measure the input/output pins of the pcf8574 (should be 4 pins low/ 4 pins high)
                                        • measure the power consumption of the pcf8574 (hope it is next to nothing)

                                        IF the above is true we can easily rework te sketch to use the interrupt.

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                                        @AWI I found this library:

                                        https://github.com/skywodd/pcf8574_arduino_library

                                        There is a lot of talk about interrupt functionality and it seems to be somehow implemented. But I don't fully understand how it works. Maybe you can make something out of it?

                                        Oh, and maybe in even more detail with some examples, I have not read it yet:

                                        https://github.com/RalphBacon/PCF8574-Pin-Extender-I2C

                                        ...but it looks like a software interrupt rather than a hardware interrupt??? I am confused.

                                        ... at least for the last example: It does not need any library. It's all quite clear in one sketch.

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                                        • karl261K karl261

                                          @AWI I found this library:

                                          https://github.com/skywodd/pcf8574_arduino_library

                                          There is a lot of talk about interrupt functionality and it seems to be somehow implemented. But I don't fully understand how it works. Maybe you can make something out of it?

                                          Oh, and maybe in even more detail with some examples, I have not read it yet:

                                          https://github.com/RalphBacon/PCF8574-Pin-Extender-I2C

                                          ...but it looks like a software interrupt rather than a hardware interrupt??? I am confused.

                                          ... at least for the last example: It does not need any library. It's all quite clear in one sketch.

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                                          @karl261 the last sketch does not work with interrupts. It just mentions them.

                                          I would stick with the previous suggestion. Measure the current when you set some outputs to low (low is active 1)

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