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Refrigeration Datta Logger (A Non MySensors Project)

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    wow! nice

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      wow! nice

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      @hek

      Thank You.

      RJ_Make

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        Great initiative! I've always wanted to do something similar (with MySensors preferably) but I've always stumbled on the mechanical issues, like getting the wire inside the cabinets. Especially in freezers letting even a little damp/hot air in would create icing. But AWG26 may be thin enough to get around this? Thought about drilling through the cabinets, but I'd really have to have a schematic so I'd not hit anything vital. Another option would be to run a cable where each of the thermostats are, but you'd have to temporarily remove the thermostat wire and that just seems like and awful lot of work if you need to do four times or so (when you have two freezers / fridges that are split 50/50).

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        • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

          Great initiative! I've always wanted to do something similar (with MySensors preferably) but I've always stumbled on the mechanical issues, like getting the wire inside the cabinets. Especially in freezers letting even a little damp/hot air in would create icing. But AWG26 may be thin enough to get around this? Thought about drilling through the cabinets, but I'd really have to have a schematic so I'd not hit anything vital. Another option would be to run a cable where each of the thermostats are, but you'd have to temporarily remove the thermostat wire and that just seems like and awful lot of work if you need to do four times or so (when you have two freezers / fridges that are split 50/50).

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          Thanks @bjornhallberg, In my testing on my freezer, I found, through a bit of trial an error, that stranded 26awg wire with the outer jacket removed gave me very good results. I ran the logger for 3 days with no noticeable problem.

          Keep in mind this logger will be used by us as a diagnostic tool, (I work for an HA HVAC/R company) so it's use is temporary. If you are interested in a permanent solution look at these pics:

          20141109_081556.jpg

          The black line above is my MySensors sensor. (you can see it in the project pics above) It's a thin esata cable which allowed me to go behind the gasket.

          20141109_081616.jpg

          20141109_081653.jpg

          Using a Dremel, I was able easily cut a slice out of the door liner.

          20141109_081704.jpg

          Now of course this would only be acceptable by the wife if it's in the utility room... :-)

          Depending on the make and model of your unit, I might be able to get the refrigeration and wiring layout location for you...

          RJ_Make

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            Thanks @bjornhallberg, In my testing on my freezer, I found, through a bit of trial an error, that stranded 26awg wire with the outer jacket removed gave me very good results. I ran the logger for 3 days with no noticeable problem.

            Keep in mind this logger will be used by us as a diagnostic tool, (I work for an HA HVAC/R company) so it's use is temporary. If you are interested in a permanent solution look at these pics:

            20141109_081556.jpg

            The black line above is my MySensors sensor. (you can see it in the project pics above) It's a thin esata cable which allowed me to go behind the gasket.

            20141109_081616.jpg

            20141109_081653.jpg

            Using a Dremel, I was able easily cut a slice out of the door liner.

            20141109_081704.jpg

            Now of course this would only be acceptable by the wife if it's in the utility room... :-)

            Depending on the make and model of your unit, I might be able to get the refrigeration and wiring layout location for you...

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            @ServiceXp said:

            only be acceptable by the wife if it's in the utility room...

            You can read my mind! That's exactly what I thought when looking at your pictures! ;-)

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              @ServiceXp said:

              only be acceptable by the wife if it's in the utility room...

              You can read my mind! That's exactly what I thought when looking at your pictures! ;-)

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              @Yveaux LOL Indeed!

              RJ_Make

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                Some Graph Examples: (I'm not very good when it comes to good graphs so....) :-)

                2014-11-09_13-26-06.png

                Taking a Closer look at the temp spike.
                Closer Look at Spike.png

                RJ_Make

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                  This is quite fantastic, thanks for the write up!I would be interested in the current monitoring tied in with MySensors though, at least in my current state that would come before refrigeration data.

                  I have been looking for a good whole home current monitoring solution.

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                    Is the light sensor for (indirectly) detecting when the door is open?

                    (Or maybe it's to answer the age old question - does the light REALLY go off when you close the door :-) )

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                      Thanks for sharing this!

                      Oddly, what this inspires in me is the desire to monitor ice chests when camping, which have much more variation and uncertainty than our home refrigerator.

                      Like - block ice lasts longer than crushed, but how much does that affect the temperature curves as it melts? How much colder is the bottom of the chest than the top? How do our various ice chests compare? How much does cold meltwater help or harm the cooling? How much effect does opening the lid have? (Eg: for given conditions, perhaps each time of opening the top for 30 seconds moves the temp and melt curve along as much as 20 minutes of sealed operation - or what?).

                      I'm thinking two internal temps (maybe humidity) and light; one or two external temps (eg: top and side or bottom) and maybe light (to detect sunlight). It would need to be battery powered (externally), but wouldn't need to run for so long. For at least the bottom inside measurements, would probably need a waterproof sealed 18B20 probe. Would need entry wires sturdy enough to handle friction from a lid sliding reather than pressing shut, or an acceptable through-wall technique (which allows the electronics to be detached and is sufficiently sealed.

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                        Is the light sensor for (indirectly) detecting when the door is open?

                        (Or maybe it's to answer the age old question - does the light REALLY go off when you close the door :-) )

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                        @Zeph Yes,

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                          Well, After some more testing I found a hardware bug in my particular build. I started testing the unit in a cold environment (having the controller in lower temps (~50F)) and discovered that the 4 pin audio jack connections fail. Not exactly sure why, but I'll post back my 'solution" once I figure it out myself..... (:P)

                          RJ_Make

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                            Well I changed the connection type for the sensors due to the above issue.

                            20141202_183743.jpg

                            Tested and again after 2.5 days, it locked out on a sensor com error. So after some thought, I realized, (not sure why I didn't before) the system is not going to be 100% bullet proof, so instead of moving to a hard fault, I recoded the error handling section of the sketch to attempt to handle the occasional hiccups in reading the sensors. Pushed new sketch to Github and am testing now.

                            It will interesting to see just how many times the readings fail.

                            I shall see.....

                            RJ_Make

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