Recommendation for PCB fab?

[gohan]

@NeverDie it took over a month for me with the standard shipping, as 10 days were taken by custom for no apparent reason

[NeverDie]

@gohan said in Recommendation for PCB fab?:

@NeverDie it took over a month for me with the standard shipping, as 10 days were taken by custom for no apparent reason

Which one?

[gohan]

Seeed studio. The production was done in a few days, but the shipping with singapore post was the usual 3-4 weeks as all the products from China. Next time I'll try dirtypcb and panelize some pcbs in order to optimize the order

[NeverDie]

Elecrow charges extra to panelize, but it wasn't clear to me whether they do panelizing or whether you have to submit already panelized gerbers.

[scalz]

The easiest way, if you want to panelize, for cheap, with mouse bites (drills for breakable), has been explained by tbowmo and yveaux above, by using dirtypcb.

Else that needs some tinkering.

I usually use elecrow, and seeedstudio service too. it's up to you to panelize. ask them maybe they'll do it for free, but not sure. i imagine if all people would ask them this..
And doing this, costs the same as ordering separate design boards (which are already milled..).

So when i want to use their service, and not pay for sub boards, i panelize in one bigger board and separate sub boards with silkscreen lines (not milling) and cut them myself (i have saws for this, circular etc.). If you think to add mouse bites for breakable in this case, that won't be ok. They will ask you to remove them and to fix your panel or use their subboards fee.

[tbowmo]

dirtypcbs support mousebites to separate pcb's, without extra fees..

It seems that the tool from thisisnotrocketscience is tested primarily with dirtypcbs :)

[gohan]

@tbowmo is there any guide on how to use that program?

[scalz]

@gohan
maybe you can find some more howtos on google, here is one:
https://hackaday.io/project/19202-small-pcbs-for-panelizing-tutorial/log/59210-panelization-using-gerberpanelizer-on-windows-linux-possible

[NeverDie]

I placed an order with Elecrow just now. $9.70 for ten boards delivered seems like a bargain. I'll make another post once they're delivered so that we'll have a record of how long it takes to receive.

I'll try the panelizing approach with dirtypcb's sometime soon. It sounds like a fantastic deal also.

Thanks everybody for your suggestions!

[Yveaux]

@NeverDie said in Recommendation for PCB fab?:

I'll try the panelizing approach with dirtypcb's sometime soon. It sounds like a fantastic deal also.

Let us know if you need any help with it!

[NeverDie]

@NeverDie said in Recommendation for PCB fab?:

I placed an order with Elecrow just now. $9.70 for ten boards delivered seems like a bargain. I'll make another post once they're delivered so that we'll have a record of how long it takes to receive.

I'll try the panelizing approach with dirtypcb's sometime soon. It sounds like a fantastic deal also.

Thanks everybody for your suggestions!

I received the Elecrow boards today. Wow, just 17 days from order until receipt. 10 boards for $9.70 total, including shipping. Much cheaper than OSH-PARK, and only a few days extra. :)

[gohan]

@NeverDie how much are the boards and the shipping costs?

[NeverDie]

@gohan Third sentence immediately above.

[gerritv]

Very pleased with my Elecrow order as well. This is the first pcb I designed since the 1980's when you taped up the art work by hand :-)

[NeverDie]

One visible difference though is that the elecrow pads are silvery in color, whereas the OSH Park pads are brass/gold in color:

Does it matter?

Also, the OSH Park boards have the annoying mouse bites, whereas the Elecrow are nice smooth edges.

[gerritv]

The default surface finish at Elecrow is HASL. ENIG is goldie colour but more expensive. There are a few others as well.
Good explanation of differences: http://www.epectec.com/articles/pcb-surface-finish-advantages-and-disadvantages.html
OSH might be using OSP / Entek coating.

IMHO it is an appearance thing for us hobbyists. As long as it is not bare copper it should be ok.

[gohan]

@NeverDie I actually meant the costs split

[gerritv]

US4.90 for 10 boards (100x50) on special, US4.85 shipping to Canada.

[NeverDie]

Today I received another order from Elecrow. This time it took 18 days to receive from the date of order. However, they did send me 12 boards instead of 10, so that's nice. :)

[Nca78]

@NeverDie said in Recommendation for PCB fab?:

Today I received another order from Elecrow. This time it took 18 days to receive from the date of order. However, they did send me 12 boards instead of 10, so that's nice. :)

That is still pretty quick if you selected the cheap shipping option !