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RFM69HW 433 communication problem

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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    I got the new batch of 4 new rfm69h but I am still getting no communication between gw and node, now I can't even get some messages received from gw. I have updates to latest development library and used pretty much all defaults values besides setting the right frequency. Unless I'm doing something really wrong, there must be something wrong in the basics. I'll have to try some more combinations with the antennas, but I am really starting to get discouraged since the nrf24 worked fine since the beginning.

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    • gohanG gohan

      I got the new batch of 4 new rfm69h but I am still getting no communication between gw and node, now I can't even get some messages received from gw. I have updates to latest development library and used pretty much all defaults values besides setting the right frequency. Unless I'm doing something really wrong, there must be something wrong in the basics. I'll have to try some more combinations with the antennas, but I am really starting to get discouraged since the nrf24 worked fine since the beginning.

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      sundberg84
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      wrote on last edited by sundberg84
      #15

      @gohan - If you have 3.3v on the radio and the arduino, are sure about the software/sketch then I would also suggest trying different antennas. What are you using today? I would buy a SMA connector and a good antenna. Even though I have the DIY antenna on the test-node above, I still have a factory antenna + SMA connector on the gw.

      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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      • CarywinC Offline
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        #16

        I'm not very familiar with that hardware, but from a cursory glance it looks like you don't have the interrupt pin connected? Unlike the NRF modules, the RFM69s are interrupt-driven and need DIO0 connected to pin 2

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        • gohanG Offline
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          gohan
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          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          I am waiting for the antennas and sma connectors too. Irq pin i think it is connected as it should be in the in the pcb.

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          • CarywinC Carywin

            I'm not very familiar with that hardware, but from a cursory glance it looks like you don't have the interrupt pin connected? Unlike the NRF modules, the RFM69s are interrupt-driven and need DIO0 connected to pin 2

            sundberg84S Offline
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            sundberg84
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            wrote on last edited by sundberg84
            #18

            @Carywin - its EasyPCB RFM edition and D2 is connected to DIO0 pin as described in the radio tutorial so unless he is using a strange RFM module with the interrupt pin on some different place that should work.

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • CarywinC Offline
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              wrote on last edited by Carywin
              #19

              Right, I'm sure that node is fine, I mainly just zoomed in and looked at this one:
              0_1505086819240_IMG_4281.JPG
              I use this same small piggyback board for many nodes and it works great with those 21mm coil antennas.

              However, I just noticed the #define for TX power. I think the H and HW versions have a minimum of 13dB or something. Have you tried without?

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              • gohanG gohan

                I tried the coiled wire like the one you are using, it didn't change at all. I am running out of options unless there is a problem with the rfm modules.

                JokgiJ Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                @gohan a straight pig tail antenna of about 30mm should work fine (but will not be perfectly tuned).

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                • CarywinC Carywin

                  Right, I'm sure that node is fine, I mainly just zoomed in and looked at this one:
                  0_1505086819240_IMG_4281.JPG
                  I use this same small piggyback board for many nodes and it works great with those 21mm coil antennas.

                  However, I just noticed the #define for TX power. I think the H and HW versions have a minimum of 13dB or something. Have you tried without?

                  gohanG Offline
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                  gohan
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  @Carywin I was using the nodes on easypcb also for the new ones. What do you suggest I set the TX power?

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                  • gohanG gohan

                    @Carywin I was using the nodes on easypcb also for the new ones. What do you suggest I set the TX power?

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                    sundberg84
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #22

                    @gohan - i never messed with TX power... have a look and try my sketches above. They work for me.

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    • CarywinC Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by Carywin
                      #23

                      I would suggest comment out the TX power setting and let the ATC control it. If it still doesn't work, try:

                      #define MY_RFM69_ATC_MODE_DISABLED
                      #define MY_RFM69_TX_POWER_DBM 20
                      

                      Edit:
                      Maybe also try

                      #define MY_DEBUG_VERBOSE_RFM69
                      

                      and see if that tells you anything more.

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                      • gohanG Offline
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                        gohan
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #24

                        If my headache gets better, I'll do some more tests tonight

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                        • gohanG gohan

                          If my headache gets better, I'll do some more tests tonight

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #25

                          @gohan If you are using AutoAcks and you have a combination of True Nordic based Modules and nRF24L01P clones you may have a issue. Is there a way to not use acknowledgements and see if you can communicate properly between the modules?

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #26

                            I'm using rfm69 not nrf24l01

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                              wrote on last edited by gohan
                              #27

                              I think i solved the mistery... the alixpress seller sent me RFM69W modules instead of HW... I just noticed the chips are the same and in fact they work if I compile the node without the #define MY_IS_RFM69HW. I don't even know if I can get a partial refund since quite some time has passed

                              PS :rage: :rage: :zap: :zap:

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                              • gohanG gohan

                                I think i solved the mistery... the alixpress seller sent me RFM69W modules instead of HW... I just noticed the chips are the same and in fact they work if I compile the node without the #define MY_IS_RFM69HW. I don't even know if I can get a partial refund since quite some time has passed

                                PS :rage: :rage: :zap: :zap:

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                                sundberg84
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #28

                                @gohan - so you got communication now that is working? That is great news.

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                • gohanG Offline
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                                  gohan
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #29

                                  Yeah... Not a good news that I got "scammed"

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                                  • gohanG gohan

                                    Yeah... Not a good news that I got "scammed"

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                                    sundberg84
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #30

                                    @gohan - nope its not! I hope you will get your money back!
                                    But atleast you know you can make it work and how!

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                      @gohan - nope its not! I hope you will get your money back!
                                      But atleast you know you can make it work and how!

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                                      gohan
                                      Mod
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #31

                                      @sundberg84 the bad thing is that I was recommended to use that seller as a good one.

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                                      • gohanG gohan

                                        @sundberg84 the bad thing is that I was recommended to use that seller as a good one.

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                                        sundberg84
                                        Hardware Contributor
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #32

                                        @gohan - did I ? Im sorry If i did...
                                        My RFM modules have been working good and are as described.

                                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        • gohanG Offline
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                                          gohan
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #33

                                          No, it wasn't you.

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