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Supercap Solar Powered Mysensors nodes as cheap as possible

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  • gohanG Offline
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    wrote on last edited by gohan
    #47

    nope, that was the 5.5v supercap version. I mean plugged in in the socket next to the green screw terminal. Of course the buck boost module now it is not used. I have to put the new photo I know.

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      Since you're not posting schematics, maybe it's time for a new photo....

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        I need to learn how to make schematics :sweat_smile:

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          0_1509643234861_upload-e0f0eada-447b-47c3-9d6d-500457d53ed2

          Does it make sense? The output terminals go to the Easy Pcb green screw terminals .

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            0_1509643234861_upload-e0f0eada-447b-47c3-9d6d-500457d53ed2

            Does it make sense? The output terminals go to the Easy Pcb green screw terminals .

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            @gohan said in Supercap Solar Powered Mysensors nodes as cheap as possible:

            Does it make sense?

            I suppose. Why the two diodes again instead of just the one?

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              #52

              Because only one was not dropping enough voltage to have a safe margin, the schottky is giving that extra 0.2v

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                You'll have a very long charge tail with the diode(s) in that position.

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                  Do you mean it will take long time to fully charge?

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                  • gohanG gohan

                    Do you mean it will take long time to fully charge?

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                    @gohan Yes.

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                      It took about 5 hours to charge and it wasn't in direct sunlight, I'm still happy with the results given I'm using general purpose parts I already had around and no sophisticated charge controllers (and no particular knowledge about electronics :sweat_smile:)

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                      • gohanG gohan

                        It took about 5 hours to charge and it wasn't in direct sunlight, I'm still happy with the results given I'm using general purpose parts I already had around and no sophisticated charge controllers (and no particular knowledge about electronics :sweat_smile:)

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                        @gohan :+1:

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                          0_1509815907001_upload-9b8d0c02-2431-40e8-a5e2-a8116c85246a

                          Today was overcast all day so it took about 3 hours longer (until 3pm) to fully charge but overall it looks like a nice graph for the last 3 days.

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                            0_1510134605001_upload-fe574220-a002-4e36-bb4f-a895f54f1db9
                            2 days of rain and it can't charge, luckily it has more than 3 days of running time without charge. Being not in direct sunlight (vertically positioned on a wall just below roof) it has some drawbacks, but today it is catching up

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                              The overcast days are where the two diodes are burning you.

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                                if it is overcast it is not that dramatic as it still charges, it is the rainy day that is bad. I know that a more efficient and specific charging circuit would work better even at lower light/voltages, but still this is working fine as it recovered to 2.4V within 3 hours and 3 more to reach 2.5V. Unless I get 4 days or rain I should be fine but in the event of 4 rainy days I think I would be more worried about other things :D

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                                  0_1511358675325_upload-4799b991-916e-4052-9fd2-b421052a9d44

                                  That is looking great so far (the spike was a reboot after I installed the SMA antenna)

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                                    Since your goal was "as cheap as possible," what was your final tally on how much it cost? It would be good to know just how cheap is possible.

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                                    • gohanG gohan

                                      1.5€ for solar panel, 1.7€ for 100F supercap, 1€ for booster and some cents for MCP1700, diodes and a small PCB. A fully charged supercap gives 3 days of working time, with send every 10 minutes of temp. hum, TX rssi, RX RSSI, battery voltage and battery percentage

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                                      #64

                                      @gohan said in Supercap Solar Powered Mysensors nodes as cheap as possible:

                                      1.5€ for solar panel, 1.7€ for 100F supercap, 1€ for booster and some cents for MCP1700, diodes and a small PCB. A fully charged supercap gives 3 days of working time, with send every 10 minutes of temp. hum, TX rssi, RX RSSI, battery voltage and battery percentage

                                      I already wrote it 3 weeks ago. :D

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                                        1.5€ for solar panel, 1.7€ for 100F supercap, 1€ for booster and some cents for MCP1700, diodes and a small PCB. A fully charged supercap gives 3 days of working time, with send every 10 minutes of temp. hum, TX rssi, RX RSSI, battery voltage and battery percentage

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                                        So, something like $4 then I guess at today's exchange rate.

                                        @gohan said in Supercap Solar Powered Mysensors nodes as cheap as possible:

                                        .5€ for solar panel, 1.7€ for 100F supercap, 1€ for booster and some cents for MCP1700, diodes and a small PCB.

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                                          yes 5$ range, of course you need to add the other costs like box, the node itself and everything you need to have the node working outdoor

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