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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors

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  • sundberg84S sundberg84

    @ZsoltZombori - just to be clear, its either BOD or booster. They have the same result. BOD lowers the minimum voltage threshold before the chip dies, and the booster regulates the voltage up so the chip doesnt die. Same result, different methods.

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    #46

    @sundberg84 - I attached the BME280 to D5 to switch on/off (to achieve less power consumption) but if I upload the program the module powers up, and connecting, send a measurement with temp, hum, bat and goes to sleep than wake up, and does nothing. If I attach the sensor to normally VCC + GND, it works fine. How can it be? What could be the problem?

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      @sundberg84 - I attached the BME280 to D5 to switch on/off (to achieve less power consumption) but if I upload the program the module powers up, and connecting, send a measurement with temp, hum, bat and goes to sleep than wake up, and does nothing. If I attach the sensor to normally VCC + GND, it works fine. How can it be? What could be the problem?

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      sundberg84
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      #47

      @ZsoltZombori - Did you put the pin HIGH before read? (Comfirm with a multimeter?) If you did, you might want to add a wait(); before the readings so the sensors gets time to stabilise?

      Or the BME module needs some sort of initialization/startup after powered on?

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      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        gohan
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        #48

        I think you need to reinitialize the sensors before you actually read it after you power it down. I suggest you remove the instructions in setup and put everything in a function that you call every time you read the sensor, where in the beginning you set pin D5 high and at the end you set it low.

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          @ZsoltZombori - Did you put the pin HIGH before read? (Comfirm with a multimeter?) If you did, you might want to add a wait(); before the readings so the sensors gets time to stabilise?

          Or the BME module needs some sort of initialization/startup after powered on?

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          A Former User
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          #49

          @sundberg84 - Very good tip, I read the datasheet of bme280 sensor and it need time to initialize. I added 10 ms wait to program,
          @gohan - I made a very beginner mistake as you said. The wire.begin was added to setup, I wrote it to loop, but it is not working..

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            sundberg84
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            wrote on last edited by sundberg84
            #50

            Some initial changes for Rev 10.

            • MysX location changed to accept more MysX boards and align like Nrf24 version.
            • Antenna location changed, radio rotated 180 degrees
            • Optional signing added
            • Optional SPI flash added.
            • Extra pins aligned to 2.45 vertical & horizontal
            • Relocated Extra + Bat Measurer some to allow more space to booster
            • Pinholes added for RFM Radio
            • Changed pull-up resistor from D3 to D5 to have one more pin for Interrupt

            0_1518897094787_0c89c2a0-6736-42b5-84fc-659e1d5b3c41-image.png

            0_1518897119704_9b461c08-822e-46c9-8fa3-ac93c4b0d350-image.png

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • gohanG Offline
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              #51

              Are there any arduino pin left that could be connected to the "extra" area?

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              • gohanG gohan

                Are there any arduino pin left that could be connected to the "extra" area?

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                sundberg84
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                #52

                @gohan - yes, but then you are not free to use the extra area as you like.

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                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                  #53

                  In that case a trace cut would solve the problem :-)

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                  • gohanG gohan

                    In that case a trace cut would solve the problem :-)

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                    sundberg84
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                    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                    #54

                    @gohan isn't a trace cut harder to achieve than solder a wire to the right pin?

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                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      #55

                      I don't know, but it has been quite tedious to bridge the pins that were just next to the "extra" area to test the fota. 😅

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                        #56

                        Please make the pad for the antenna on the "bottom" larger, same as "above". Most ready-made antennas are with a 90 degree wire for easier soldering.
                        RFM69 antenna

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                          mickecarlsson
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                          #57

                          Proposal.
                          Make two of the pads at the extra area with A4 and A5 (I2C) as more and more sensors are I2C.
                          Preferably the two pads next to VCC and GND.
                          Like the BMP280 and BME280, they are I2C with VCC, GND, SCL and SDA, so first line of pins in the extra area should be:
                          VCC o-o-o-o
                          GND o-o-o-o
                          A5 -o o o o
                          A4 -o o o o

                          The new layout with the SMD on the bottom layer looks good.

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                          • M mickecarlsson

                            Please make the pad for the antenna on the "bottom" larger, same as "above". Most ready-made antennas are with a 90 degree wire for easier soldering.
                            RFM69 antenna

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                            sundberg84
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                            wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                            #58

                            @mickecarlsson - im not sure what you mean with:

                            make the pad for the antenna on the "bottom" larger, same as "above"

                            Picture?

                            I was thinking about I2c but the problem is that different sensors use different pin-orders.
                            Also see the discussion with gohan above about extra area.

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              mickecarlsson
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                              0_1518948289073_easypcbv10.JPG
                              This area that I have painted red.

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                              • M mickecarlsson

                                0_1518948289073_easypcbv10.JPG
                                This area that I have painted red.

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                                sundberg84
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #60

                                @mickecarlsson - aha!! Okey, no problems :) I will just double-check this will not cause any issues with a SMA antenna.

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                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  mickecarlsson
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                                  #61

                                  I have just finished soldering my last four easypcb with BME280:
                                  0_1518948565314_my-easypcb-3.JPG
                                  0_1518948572550_my-easypcb-4.JPG

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                                  • M mickecarlsson

                                    I have just finished soldering my last four easypcb with BME280:
                                    0_1518948565314_my-easypcb-3.JPG
                                    0_1518948572550_my-easypcb-4.JPG

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                                    sundberg84
                                    Hardware Contributor
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                                    #62

                                    @mickecarlsson - Woao - looks great!
                                    If you do that many with Ic2 i can understand you want extra area to be extended ;) I will think about it or maybe I can do a MysX daugherboard to you instead.

                                    Can I use your pic as a good example on the openhardware page?

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                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      mickecarlsson
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                                      #63

                                      Yes, you can use the pictures. If you need better pictues I can provide it to you.

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                                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                        @mickecarlsson - Woao - looks great!
                                        If you do that many with Ic2 i can understand you want extra area to be extended ;) I will think about it or maybe I can do a MysX daugherboard to you instead.

                                        Can I use your pic as a good example on the openhardware page?

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                                        gohan
                                        Mod
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                                        #64

                                        @sundberg84 are you going to test the SPI Flash with FOTA? at least to get an idea of the compatible chips that can be used.

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                                        • gohanG gohan

                                          @sundberg84 are you going to test the SPI Flash with FOTA? at least to get an idea of the compatible chips that can be used.

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                                          sundberg84
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                                          wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                          #65

                                          @gohan that was my plan. What is your thought s about this ? I have never used fota or spi flash.

                                          I'm not a software guy though... I can test hardware.

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