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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors

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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    wrote on last edited by
    #48

    I think you need to reinitialize the sensors before you actually read it after you power it down. I suggest you remove the instructions in setup and put everything in a function that you call every time you read the sensor, where in the beginning you set pin D5 high and at the end you set it low.

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      @ZsoltZombori - Did you put the pin HIGH before read? (Comfirm with a multimeter?) If you did, you might want to add a wait(); before the readings so the sensors gets time to stabilise?

      Or the BME module needs some sort of initialization/startup after powered on?

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      wrote on last edited by A Former User
      #49

      @sundberg84 - Very good tip, I read the datasheet of bme280 sensor and it need time to initialize. I added 10 ms wait to program,
      @gohan - I made a very beginner mistake as you said. The wire.begin was added to setup, I wrote it to loop, but it is not working..

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      • sundberg84S Offline
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        sundberg84
        Hardware Contributor
        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
        #50

        Some initial changes for Rev 10.

        • MysX location changed to accept more MysX boards and align like Nrf24 version.
        • Antenna location changed, radio rotated 180 degrees
        • Optional signing added
        • Optional SPI flash added.
        • Extra pins aligned to 2.45 vertical & horizontal
        • Relocated Extra + Bat Measurer some to allow more space to booster
        • Pinholes added for RFM Radio
        • Changed pull-up resistor from D3 to D5 to have one more pin for Interrupt

        0_1518897094787_0c89c2a0-6736-42b5-84fc-659e1d5b3c41-image.png

        0_1518897119704_9b461c08-822e-46c9-8fa3-ac93c4b0d350-image.png

        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        • gohanG Offline
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          gohan
          Mod
          wrote on last edited by
          #51

          Are there any arduino pin left that could be connected to the "extra" area?

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          • gohanG gohan

            Are there any arduino pin left that could be connected to the "extra" area?

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            sundberg84
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #52

            @gohan - yes, but then you are not free to use the extra area as you like.

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • gohanG Offline
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              gohan
              Mod
              wrote on last edited by
              #53

              In that case a trace cut would solve the problem :-)

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              • gohanG gohan

                In that case a trace cut would solve the problem :-)

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                sundberg84
                Hardware Contributor
                wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                #54

                @gohan isn't a trace cut harder to achieve than solder a wire to the right pin?

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                • gohanG Offline
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                  gohan
                  Mod
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #55

                  I don't know, but it has been quite tedious to bridge the pins that were just next to the "extra" area to test the fota. 😅

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                  • M Offline
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                    mickecarlsson
                    wrote on last edited by mickecarlsson
                    #56

                    Please make the pad for the antenna on the "bottom" larger, same as "above". Most ready-made antennas are with a 90 degree wire for easier soldering.
                    RFM69 antenna

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                    • M Offline
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                      mickecarlsson
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                      #57

                      Proposal.
                      Make two of the pads at the extra area with A4 and A5 (I2C) as more and more sensors are I2C.
                      Preferably the two pads next to VCC and GND.
                      Like the BMP280 and BME280, they are I2C with VCC, GND, SCL and SDA, so first line of pins in the extra area should be:
                      VCC o-o-o-o
                      GND o-o-o-o
                      A5 -o o o o
                      A4 -o o o o

                      The new layout with the SMD on the bottom layer looks good.

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                      • M mickecarlsson

                        Please make the pad for the antenna on the "bottom" larger, same as "above". Most ready-made antennas are with a 90 degree wire for easier soldering.
                        RFM69 antenna

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                        sundberg84
                        Hardware Contributor
                        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                        #58

                        @mickecarlsson - im not sure what you mean with:

                        make the pad for the antenna on the "bottom" larger, same as "above"

                        Picture?

                        I was thinking about I2c but the problem is that different sensors use different pin-orders.
                        Also see the discussion with gohan above about extra area.

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          mickecarlsson
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #59

                          0_1518948289073_easypcbv10.JPG
                          This area that I have painted red.

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                          • M mickecarlsson

                            0_1518948289073_easypcbv10.JPG
                            This area that I have painted red.

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                            sundberg84
                            Hardware Contributor
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #60

                            @mickecarlsson - aha!! Okey, no problems :) I will just double-check this will not cause any issues with a SMA antenna.

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              mickecarlsson
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #61

                              I have just finished soldering my last four easypcb with BME280:
                              0_1518948565314_my-easypcb-3.JPG
                              0_1518948572550_my-easypcb-4.JPG

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                              • M mickecarlsson

                                I have just finished soldering my last four easypcb with BME280:
                                0_1518948565314_my-easypcb-3.JPG
                                0_1518948572550_my-easypcb-4.JPG

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                                sundberg84
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #62

                                @mickecarlsson - Woao - looks great!
                                If you do that many with Ic2 i can understand you want extra area to be extended ;) I will think about it or maybe I can do a MysX daugherboard to you instead.

                                Can I use your pic as a good example on the openhardware page?

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  mickecarlsson
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #63

                                  Yes, you can use the pictures. If you need better pictues I can provide it to you.

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                                  • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                    @mickecarlsson - Woao - looks great!
                                    If you do that many with Ic2 i can understand you want extra area to be extended ;) I will think about it or maybe I can do a MysX daugherboard to you instead.

                                    Can I use your pic as a good example on the openhardware page?

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                                    gohan
                                    Mod
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #64

                                    @sundberg84 are you going to test the SPI Flash with FOTA? at least to get an idea of the compatible chips that can be used.

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                                    • gohanG gohan

                                      @sundberg84 are you going to test the SPI Flash with FOTA? at least to get an idea of the compatible chips that can be used.

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                                      sundberg84
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                      #65

                                      @gohan that was my plan. What is your thought s about this ? I have never used fota or spi flash.

                                      I'm not a software guy though... I can test hardware.

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        gohan
                                        Mod
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #66

                                        The hardest part of fota is to wire the spi flash, the rest it is quite easy once you have the mycontroller installed. I can help you out if you want

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                                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                          Everything is going fine so im taking this to the next level... from test to produktion.
                                          This sensor might be my most important summer sensor from now on ;)
                                          A couple of days ago I had some friends over which gave me a beer cooler, garden edition.
                                          Its pretty much a barrel in the ground which cools the beer down... (a bit atleast).

                                          0_1500394205429_1.JPG

                                          I must say Im very impressed with the RFM69 so far... except the price, there has been no trouble at all. No repeaters, no capacitors, no fine tuning... nothing. Pretty much solder 'n' play!

                                          This node is burried in the far end on the garden (25m) and has to penetrate 3 concrete + 1brick wall to reach the GW in the celler... no problems, first try and bang!

                                          So far... the temperature in the cooler isnt very impressive, and I have only tried the first layer. I was afraid I would loose radio coverage if I put the sensors far down... but I will try.

                                          Cheers mates!

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #67

                                          @sundberg84 said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors:

                                          Everything is going fine so im taking this to the next level... from test to produktion.
                                          This sensor might be my most important summer sensor from now on ;)
                                          A couple of days ago I had some friends over which gave me a beer cooler, garden edition.
                                          Its pretty much a barrel in the ground which cools the beer down... (a bit atleast).

                                          0_1500394205429_1.JPG

                                          I must say Im very impressed with the RFM69 so far... except the price, there has been no trouble at all. No repeaters, no capacitors, no fine tuning... nothing. Pretty much solder 'n' play!

                                          This node is burried in the far end on the garden (25m) and has to penetrate 3 concrete + 1brick wall to reach the GW in the celler... no problems, first try and bang!

                                          So far... the temperature in the cooler isnt very impressive, and I have only tried the first layer. I was afraid I would loose radio coverage if I put the sensors far down... but I will try.

                                          Cheers mates!

                                          Hi, nice set-up. I have been reading this and havong a "newbie" question. I have a Newbie PCB build with the Nrf24l01+ which seems to give (me) a poor range.
                                          So would that improve having a rfm69 instead? Or will just adding an antenna improve the reach (I have more or less the same outside distance and concrete wall/ flooring I'd liek to cross). Now I just have a reach for approx 8 meters and one concrete floor (inside the house)? Which is not very good (even my z-wave devices are preforming much better - outside at 20 mtr from the house.
                                          Can the nrf240 be improved or do I need teh rfm69 (or even using a LORA ?).

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