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  • gigiG gigi

    I connected a display arduino mega with a NRF24L01 radio module.

    I have power problems. I would like power radio with external 3.3v power supply.

    I tried to connect 3.3 volts from a second Arduino but the radio does not work.

    someone made a separate power supply for the radio?

    Thank

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    RJ_Make
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    @gigi What kind of problems did you have when connected to the Mega's 3.3v pin?

    RJ_Make

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      No problem connecting different power supplies, but often finicky components don't like having separate grounds. Connect the ground of everything together and see how it works.

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        @gigi What kind of problems did you have when connected to the Mega's 3.3v pin?

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        @ServiceXp said:

        @gigi What kind of problems did you have when connected to the Mega's 3.3v pin?

        does not transmit the data. sketch hangs after send data

        @pete1450 said:

        No problem connecting different power supplies, but often finicky components don't like having separate grounds. Connect the ground of everything together and see how it works.

        I try tomorrow

        I will keep you updated.

        I put together a radio rfm12b, a NRF24L01 and a display 128x64

        Thank

        Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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          @ServiceXp said:

          @gigi What kind of problems did you have when connected to the Mega's 3.3v pin?

          does not transmit the data. sketch hangs after send data

          @pete1450 said:

          No problem connecting different power supplies, but often finicky components don't like having separate grounds. Connect the ground of everything together and see how it works.

          I try tomorrow

          I will keep you updated.

          I put together a radio rfm12b, a NRF24L01 and a display 128x64

          Thank

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          @gigi Is there anything else connected to the 3.3v pin? If not, have you tried installing a cap (I have to use 47uf) on the radio across Vcc and GND?

          RJ_Make

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            I had to use a step down from 5V to get stable 3.3v power on the mega.

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              I had to use a step down from 5V to get stable 3.3v power on the mega.

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              @hek said:

              I had to use a step down from 5V to get stable 3.3v power on the mega.

              unfortunately I did not step down to try!!!!

              With PC USB Arduino Mega does not start the radio.

              the system only works when I put an external power supply to VIN on Arduino Mega.

              Schema-Elettrico-Termostato-Mysensos_bb.jpg

              after 2 or 3 hours arduino crashes!!!

              Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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                This is the sketch arduino

                emon_mysensors.ino

                Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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                • gigiG gigi

                  This is the sketch arduino

                  emon_mysensors.ino

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                  @gigi Wow, that's a lot of "stuff" on that 3.3v rail. I think that's your problem... What kind of current are you pulling on that rail when the radio is transmitting.?

                  RJ_Make

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                  • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                    @gigi Wow, that's a lot of "stuff" on that 3.3v rail. I think that's your problem... What kind of current are you pulling on that rail when the radio is transmitting.?

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                    @ServiceXp said:

                    @gigi Wow, that's a lot of "stuff" on that 3.3v rail. I think that's your problem... What kind of current are you pulling on that rail when the radio is transmitting.?

                    now I try to put the temperature sensor on the 5 volt

                    arduino mega limits the current on 3.3v?

                    I order AMS1117-3.3V,
                    My idea:
                    put the step-down input to 5V external power supply and output on 3.3 rail!!! For not use 3.3 v to MEGA

                    Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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                    • gigiG gigi

                      @ServiceXp said:

                      @gigi Wow, that's a lot of "stuff" on that 3.3v rail. I think that's your problem... What kind of current are you pulling on that rail when the radio is transmitting.?

                      now I try to put the temperature sensor on the 5 volt

                      arduino mega limits the current on 3.3v?

                      I order AMS1117-3.3V,
                      My idea:
                      put the step-down input to 5V external power supply and output on 3.3 rail!!! For not use 3.3 v to MEGA

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                      @gigi

                      Here are some specs.

                      Summary:
                      Microcontroller ATmega2560
                      Operating Voltage 5V
                      Input Voltage (recommended) 7-12V
                      Input Voltage (limits) 6-20V
                      Digital I/O Pins 54 (of which 15 provide PWM output)
                      Analog Input Pins 16
                      DC Current per I/O Pin 40 mA
                      DC Current for 3.3V Pin 50 mA
                      Flash Memory 256 KB of which 8 KB used by bootloader
                      SRAM 8 KB
                      EEPROM 4 KB
                      Clock Speed 16 MHz

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                        rsz_1imm1.jpg

                        Relay on
                        imm2.jpg

                        Only 3.3 volt
                        imm3.jpg

                        I do not know if I measured correctly, and my instrument is accurate !!!!!

                        Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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                          rsz_1imm1.jpg

                          Relay on
                          imm2.jpg

                          Only 3.3 volt
                          imm3.jpg

                          I do not know if I measured correctly, and my instrument is accurate !!!!!

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                          @gigi I just can't believe that the display, rfm12b and NRF24 on the same 3.3v rail is under 50ma,... not too mention the other stuff on it.. You could try disconnecting everything except the NRF24 and see what happens?

                          I can't even get my NRF24's to work with the shop's listed boost with the Pro Mini attached without a 'massive' capacitor.

                          RJ_Make

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                            @ServiceXp said:

                            I just can't believe that the display, rfm12b and NRF24 on the same 3.3v rail is under 50ma,... not too mention the other stuff on it.. You could try disconnecting everything except the NRF24 and see what happens?

                            I can't even get my NRF24's to work with the shop's listed boost with the Pro Mini attached without a 'massive' capacitor.

                            I tried to put a separate power supply.

                            General supply 5V 2 Amps.

                            I do not have the controller and I put two arduino nano for 3.3 volts

                            Schema-Elettrico-Termostato-Mysensos3_bb.jpg

                            after 2 hours the system crashes.

                            if I put only one of the two radio system is fine.

                            I tried it with a standalone with two radio but without a monitor and the system works perfectly!!!

                            I have to put other capacitors?

                            Thank

                            Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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